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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:45:18 GMT
@terrygg Yes it is easy to just ignore a trolling/abusive post. But the point is people presumably come to forums to unwind, shoot the shit a little about a film or tv show etc. I joined here not knowing that it was started by someone from the IMDb politics board and as I never explored the IMDb site much I didn't even know it had a political board. Regardless, if the Admin of this site wants the site to flourish they will have to address the troll problem. They also need to address the constant breaches of TOS. Define "troll", though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:46:19 GMT
The moderation level here is fine from my perspective. I don't visit every section, but I haven't run into any major problems or anything. You guys are doing your jobs fine. The thing is... If everyone was civil to each other, we would stay out of everything and nobody would even know we were here. The rules are simple: Don't post porn, don't dox, don't wave vulgar banners, and don't be a dick for the sake of being a dick. I'm not sure why that's so difficult for so many people, or why they don't understand that the squeaky wheels are ones that get the grease. How much vulgarity is too much because you have already used a bit of the language yourself? I'm only asking because I sometimes use profanity especially when I'm in an argument with a troll. I try to avoid arguments though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:47:04 GMT
NO, that is why you will fail in REAL LIFE & the REAL WORLD. Real Life is full of real person meanie baddie Trolls. Maybe you need a safe space, play dough, & a therapy dog to help cope with life. The really sad part is that you can not handle Trolls on an internet message board. Life is a real b*tch cupcake, so maybe you need to learn to suck it up. If you can not handle it here on a message board where you have a few options available here: 1) just suck it up Butter Cup 2) fight back 3) hit the ignore/block button However, since you can not apparently do any of the above simple options, you are going to have a tough time in REAL life & the REAL WORLD. REMEMBER IN REAL LIFE & REAL WORLD, THERE ARE NO SAFE SPACES OR IGNORE BUTTONS. This type of attitude is completely unconstructive to the entire issue. You sound like a psycho drill sargent. You are not a very tolerant person, are you terry?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:51:12 GMT
@gottaluvafriend Troll varies however if you look around the forum there are some really obvious threads that have been posted just to piss people off. "If you love your cat than you are a loser" is a good example, I don't have a cat, not taking it personally, but what was the purpose of that thread?
"Do you think Trump rapes Melania?" I mean really? What is the purpose of that one?
The dickhead who likes to post anti Christian threads, that is hate speech.
There is freedom of speech and then there is just being a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:51:59 GMT
I often have wondered what motivates a troll. In my case, I actually think it was jealousy. This one woman took a severe disliking to me, and this led to a kind of obsession on her part. She ended up following me from board to board and would only respond to my posts. The responses had nothing to do with the subject at hand; instead, she'd write, "well, that's because you're stupid," or "your ego is out of control, why don't you just shuck the *beep* up for a change?" Soon, two other people jumped on the bandwagon and began attacking me. And when I say I did nothing to ANY of them, that's the God's honest truth. All I did was exist. The main troll followed me over to the board discussing the Annie remake from 2014. There, she took it upon herself to label me a racist with every post. Then she "claimed" she was putting me on ignore, which she did indeed do, for a while. But her curiosity got the better of her, and she went off ignore and began attacking me again. If I stood up for myself, it ignited a deluge of posts from her and the little group she commanded. At one point, she posted a link to the FBI, claiming I'd made a "terrorist threat" toward her (which I hadn't). Soon after that, someone sane stepped in and warned her she was on shaky ground. INSTANTLY, she accused this person of being a "sock puppet," just "one more fake identity" I'd created for myself. Whenever someone took up for me, she'd trot out the sock puppet attack. Then, one day, I signed on and discovered she was gone. And so were all her messages, which left huge blank spots on many threads. I found out from one poster that this woman had stepped over the line once too often, and that's why her account was detonated. A month later, she came back under a different name, but with the same posting style and same insults. She was caught, her account delete AGAIN, and she disappeared...for two months. That's when she came back as a man named "Bookmanmovielover." Thus began her greatest attempt at destroying me, and it was all because I'd won the battle against her merely by doing NOTHING. The only way I could deal with Bookman was to pretend she didn't exist, but she posted everywhere I went again. The only thing that ended her abuse and harassment was the deletion of the message boards. Wow reading that reminds me of the assaults that I was a victim of on imdb. Is that the way deranged women behave? Geesh I feel so bad that you had to go through that. I completely empathize with you. Although in my case, my attackers always found a way back very quickly from being banned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 20:57:29 GMT
@gottaluvafriend Troll varies however if you look around the forum there are some really obvious threads that have been posted just to piss people off. "If you love your cat than you are a loser" is a good example, I don't have a cat, not taking it personally, but what was the purpose of that thread? "Do you think Trump rapes Melania?" I mean really? What is the purpose of that one? The dickhead who likes to post anti Christian threads, that is hate speech. There is freedom of speech and then there is just being a dick. Yes, my definition of troll includes examples just like you've referenced, threads and posts created only to create unnecessary controversy and promote strife, and which have no conceivable constructive use.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 21:06:25 GMT
@terrygg Yes it is easy to just ignore a trolling/abusive post. But the point is people presumably come to forums to unwind, shoot the shit a little about a film or tv show etc. I joined here not knowing that it was started by someone from the IMDb politics board and as I never explored the IMDb site much I didn't even know it had a political board. Regardless, if the Admin of this site wants the site to flourish they will have to address the troll problem. They also need to address the constant breaches of TOS. Oh you think that it's so simple to ignore a troll? Well I will believe that after observing how you handle a troll.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 21:10:31 GMT
You are not a very tolerant person, are you terry? Why are you always reacting to things I write? I'm not even trolling and you have a problem already. Yesterday you accused me of being sensitive. Now look at who's being sensitive. It's the language he used. That's what I'm criticizing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 22:04:00 GMT
You are not a very tolerant person, are you terry? Why are you always reacting to things I write? I'm not even trolling and you have a problem already. Yesterday you accused me of being sensitive. Now look at who's being sensitive. It's the language he used. That's what I'm criticizing. Just read how confrontational, how mean you were in the post I responded to. Then you complain about others. I'm just pointing that out. I'm not always reacting to things you post.
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Post by naterdawg on Mar 8, 2017 22:17:22 GMT
I didn't think he was mean.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 22:21:00 GMT
I didn't think he was mean. The above sounds pretty confrontational and mean to me.
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Post by Admin on Mar 8, 2017 23:21:14 GMT
How much vulgarity is too much because you have already used a bit of the language yourself? I'm only asking because I sometimes use profanity especially when I'm in an argument with a troll. I try to avoid arguments though. It's not so much a matter of quantity - or even the profanity itself - as much as it is the intent and to whom it's being said. Note that when I wrote "fuck you," it was not directed at anyone, but rather said to make a point, as I just did again. When I said "vulgar banners," I was referring more to thread titles and signatures than the occasional use of profanity in the course of discussion. Read: support.proboards.com/post/6911591/threadSo you see, while such language is not necessarily strictly prohibited here, it really all depends on where it is being said, to whom it is being said, the context in which it is said, and the intended use of it. If a member's every post is nothing but profanity, it's quite clear that s/he is not here for actual discussion. If someone were to post any profanity whatsoever in the Children and Family Films board (for example) it will be removed without deliberation. Being a matter of discretion, the use of such language is taken on a case-by-case basis and as such, there are no one-size-fits-all answers to these questions. As I recently told someone else about a similar issue: Know your audience before you step onto the stage.
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Post by naterdawg on Mar 8, 2017 23:25:04 GMT
I didn't think he was mean. The above sounds pretty confrontational and mean to me. Come on, are you really that "sensitive?" The comment was blunt, yes, but not "mean" or "confrontational." And he didn't sound a "psycho drill sergeant" to me. I think you're exaggerating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 23:41:46 GMT
The above sounds pretty confrontational and mean to me. Come on, are you really that "sensitive?" The comment was blunt, yes, but not "mean" or "confrontational." And he didn't sound a "psycho drill sergeant" to me. I think you're exaggerating. Are you sure you mean to respond to me? You're agreeing with me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 23:47:05 GMT
I can get behind the whole porn thing and doxxing but who cares if someone is being a dick? That should be something were someone just can ignore someone or fight their own battles. Once you start trying to make people be nicer to each other you might as well tuck us all in at night and read us bedtime stories. Actually bedtime stories sound kinda awesome. I want a bedtime story. I'm just saying that if all someone is going to do is spam insults and antagonize, they can do it somewhere else. Generally speaking, if people like that are just allowed to roam free, it won't be long before people like that are all there is. When I look at someone's post history, I'm looking for anything of actual substance. If 100 out of 100 posts are nothing but "fuck you," "eat shit," and "DIAF," why would I tell everyone else to use the block feature? Do you think that having the ability to hold your nose is what gives someone the right to fart in an elevator? You don't remove the crowd from the troublemakers; you remove the troublemakers from the crowd. "You don't remove the crowd from the troublemakers; you remove the troublemakers from the crowd." I like you, you must be slightly right of center, I can feel it in my bones.
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Post by OmegaWolf747 on Mar 8, 2017 23:57:31 GMT
Do a Google Image search for Total Internet F*ckwad Theory and you'll see what breeds trolls.
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Post by progressiveelement on Apr 6, 2017 15:38:49 GMT
In the three short weeks this forum has been online, 35 users have been banned, and plenty of others have received warnings and requests to modify their behavior. Some think there should be no moderation, while others think we should be more aggressive. I do not believe in an "all or nothing" philosophy, but rest assured that this is not a forum where trolls and troublemakers are allowed to roam free. It should probably also be noted that ultimatums are not persuasive, and as such, any decision to take action is not influenced by threats to leave the forum if we don't give in to demands. Forgive me.
I am, but a worm.
But seriously, I apologise for the behaviour that lead to my ban. I am refraining from using bad language, or any rule-breaking behaviour, and will simply chill out, and be my calmer persona and not fly off the handle.

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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 6, 2017 17:26:51 GMT
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Post by hardball on Apr 8, 2017 0:58:18 GMT
Well it's easy to talk smack when you're anonymous and hiding behind a keyboard.
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Post by deeznutz on Apr 25, 2017 3:32:31 GMT
If they are annoying just block them in extreme cases report
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