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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 11, 2017 18:30:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 18:33:54 GMT
Both films are different parts of the Infinity War arc. Avengers 4 is just going to be called something else, because there is an taboo on films with "Part 1" or "Part 2" in their title.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 11, 2017 18:46:49 GMT
No, Avengers 4 has always been the end of the first 3 phases. Infinity War presumably is Thanos basically winning by collecting the gauntlet and putting the Avengers on their ass. Avengers 4 is the Avengers taking it back. Presumably. I don't know that for sure.
They could definitely kill characters in Infinity War, but it was never going to be more than 1 or 2. And I doubt they were ever going to kill more than a few anyway. Were you expecting half the team to die or something? I've never thought that was going to happen.
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Post by azzajones on Aug 11, 2017 23:24:48 GMT
Avengers 4 is rumoured to be called Infinity Gauntlet, but Marvel are withholding the title due to it being a spoiler for Infinity War - go figure
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Post by mcufan on Aug 12, 2017 0:08:56 GMT
They just don't want to call it part 1 and 2. I think some time will pass between the two. Thanos will have the complete gauntlet by the third act of iw and do some crazy stuff. I'm thinking a house of M kind of world. Everybody will be alive and well, just living their lives under the rule of Thanos. In avengers 4 someone remembers... And they fight back. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 12, 2017 1:15:39 GMT
They just don't want to call it part 1 and 2. I think some time will pass between the two. Thanos will have the complete gauntlet by the third act of iw and do some crazy stuff. I'm thinking a house of M kind of world. Everybody will be alive and well, just living their lives under the rule of Thanos. In avengers 4 someone remembers... And they fight back. I have no idea what they'll actually do, but I wasn't considering any sort of mind wipe. Honestly I would bet against that. I think it will be much more straight forward. He gets it, blows up some shit, they go after him. I'm sure they'll have some fun with his power, but I don't know about alternate reality somebody wakes up stuff. |
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Post by mcufan on Aug 12, 2017 1:29:12 GMT
They just don't want to call it part 1 and 2. I think some time will pass between the two. Thanos will have the complete gauntlet by the third act of iw and do some crazy stuff. I'm thinking a house of M kind of world. Everybody will be alive and well, just living their lives under the rule of Thanos. In avengers 4 someone remembers... And they fight back. I have no idea what they'll actually do, but I wasn't considering any sort of mind wipe. Honestly I would bet against that. I think it will be much more straight forward. He gets it, blows up some shit, they go after him. I'm sure they'll have some fun with his power, but I don't know about alternate reality somebody wakes up stuff. Not all the movie, it's what you said, plus it ends like I said some time passes between movies and avengers 4 begins. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 12, 2017 2:41:28 GMT
They just don't want to call it part 1 and 2. I think some time will pass between the two. Thanos will have the complete gauntlet by the third act of iw and do some crazy stuff. I'm thinking a house of M kind of world. Everybody will be alive and well, just living their lives under the rule of Thanos. In avengers 4 someone remembers... And they fight back. I have no idea what they'll actually do, but I wasn't considering any sort of mind wipe. Honestly I would bet against that. I think it will be much more straight forward. He gets it, blows up some shit, they go after him. I'm sure they'll have some fun with his power, but I don't know about alternate reality somebody wakes up stuff. I wonder if they'll do a sort of transition between the two similar to Fellowship of the Ring going into The Two Towers. The heroes and teams are all jumbled and scattered while the villain takes the advantage. I could get behind that. Then Avengers 4 could be the culmination of every team coming together. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 12, 2017 2:54:55 GMT
I have no idea what they'll actually do, but I wasn't considering any sort of mind wipe. Honestly I would bet against that. I think it will be much more straight forward. He gets it, blows up some shit, they go after him. I'm sure they'll have some fun with his power, but I don't know about alternate reality somebody wakes up stuff. I wonder if they'll do a sort of transition between the two similar to Fellowship of the Ring going into The Two Towers. The heroes and teams are all jumbled and scattered while the villain takes the advantage. I could get behind that. Then Avengers 4 could be the culmination of every team coming together. I suspect that analogy isn't far off. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 12, 2017 3:01:15 GMT
They just don't want to call it part 1 and 2. I think some time will pass between the two. Thanos will have the complete gauntlet by the third act of iw and do some crazy stuff. I'm thinking a house of M kind of world. Everybody will be alive and well, just living their lives under the rule of Thanos. In avengers 4 someone remembers... And they fight back. What exactly is the power of the Infinity Stones? If Thanos gets all the Infinity Stones by the end of Infinity War, then why doesn't he just use the Infinity Stones to kill all the super-powered beings who sill oppose him? Are the Infinity Stones not powerful enough to do that? And if they're not, then why is everyone trying to get their hands on some useless MacGuffin Infinity Stones then? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 3:36:41 GMT
I have no idea what they'll actually do, but I wasn't considering any sort of mind wipe. Honestly I would bet against that. I think it will be much more straight forward. He gets it, blows up some shit, they go after him. I'm sure they'll have some fun with his power, but I don't know about alternate reality somebody wakes up stuff. I wonder if they'll do a sort of transition between the two similar to Fellowship of the Ring going into The Two Towers. The heroes and teams are all jumbled and scattered while the villain takes the advantage. I could get behind that. Then Avengers 4 could be the culmination of every team coming together. That sounds exactly like what most of us think they're going to do. Its definitely going to be epic. |
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Post by mcufan on Aug 12, 2017 11:11:30 GMT
I wonder if they'll do a sort of transition between the two similar to Fellowship of the Ring going into The Two Towers. The heroes and teams are all jumbled and scattered while the villain takes the advantage. I could get behind that. Then Avengers 4 could be the culmination of every team coming together. I suspect that analogy isn't far off. That's it. The altered world was a way to do that. But it can be done in a million ways, really. And I think it will be mind-blowing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 17:58:33 GMT
Avengers 3 will feature the death of Iron Man. Calling it.
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Post by King Conan on Aug 12, 2017 18:07:36 GMT
I hope Thanos kills them all in some gruesome ways, and rape Gamora, Black Widow and Wanda after this.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 12, 2017 18:15:22 GMT
Avengers 3 will feature the death of Iron Man. Calling it. While killing a character off doesn't automatically make a movie great or risky or whatever, I think the MCU needs to kill someone off. I want Thanos to be the first Marvel villain that has a sinister and imposing screen presence. Killing Iron Man could help his track record I would say. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 18:18:07 GMT
Avengers 3 will feature the death of Iron Man. Calling it. While killing a character off doesn't automatically make a movie great or risky or whatever, I think the MCU needs to kill someone off. I want Thanos to be the first Marvel villain that has a sinister and imposing screen presence. Killing Iron Man could help his track record I would say. I think they'll kill one major Avenger in each movie, and maybe one minor one (like Vision). I don't think they'll go further than that. My prediction: Iron Man and Vision (and maybe Hawkeye) die in 3. Cap and Bucky die in 4. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 12, 2017 19:16:29 GMT
While killing a character off doesn't automatically make a movie great or risky or whatever, I think the MCU needs to kill someone off. I want Thanos to be the first Marvel villain that has a sinister and imposing screen presence. Killing Iron Man could help his track record I would say. I think they'll kill one major Avenger in each movie, and maybe one minor one (like Vision). I don't think they'll go further than that. My prediction: Iron Man and Vision (and maybe Hawkeye) die in 3. Cap and Bucky die in 4. Cap can certainly die in 4. I don't think there is any way they are killing Bucky, because they'll want to leave open the option of having him claim the Cap mantle. I'm not saying that will happen, but they won't burn the opportunity for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 21:37:08 GMT
I think they'll kill one major Avenger in each movie, and maybe one minor one (like Vision). I don't think they'll go further than that. My prediction: Iron Man and Vision (and maybe Hawkeye) die in 3. Cap and Bucky die in 4. Cap can certainly die in 4. I don't think there is any way they are killing Bucky, because they'll want to leave open the option of having him claim the Cap mantle. I'm not saying that will happen, but they won't burn the opportunity for it. I think we've had this conversation before... But I'm quite certain that Bucky will become Cap in the climax of Avengers 4. He will then die, fulfilling his arc. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 12, 2017 21:38:55 GMT
Cap can certainly die in 4. I don't think there is any way they are killing Bucky, because they'll want to leave open the option of having him claim the Cap mantle. I'm not saying that will happen, but they won't burn the opportunity for it. I think we've had this conversation before... But I'm quite certain that Bucky will become Cap in the climax of Avengers 4. He will then die, fulfilling his arc. We probably have, and while I'll say that could happen, I just don't see how putting the Bucky becomes cap story into the end of Avengers 4 really does that story any justice. I wish we could bet on that, because it sounds like a good even money bet. |
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Post by mcufan on Aug 12, 2017 21:43:46 GMT
Avengers 3 will feature the death of Iron Man. Calling it. While killing a character off doesn't automatically make a movie great or risky or whatever, I think the MCU needs to kill someone off. I want Thanos to be the first Marvel villain that has a sinister and imposing screen presence. Killing Iron Man could help his track record I would say. I get that, but I'm really divided. I don't want any of the major ones to die. I want cap and iron Man and the others to live further adventures. There are so few of them... On the other hand killing one of the big ones would be a shock. The question is will they stay dead? |
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