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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 19:21:03 GMT
If you think it's ridiculous, just wait. He hasn't been punished for the bar fight, yet. He will likely sit out even more games. They already concluded the bar fight thing What bar fight? You mean the bar fight where a witness confirmed the some unknown guy punched another unknown guy and Zeke just happened to be in the bar when it happened but Zeke wasn't involved at all in the fight?
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Post by marsexplorer on Aug 15, 2017 20:58:21 GMT
They already concluded the bar fight thing What bar fight? You mean the bar fight where a witness confirmed the some unknown guy punched another unknown guy and Zeke just happened to be in the bar when it happened but Zeke wasn't involved at all in the fight? Again, the media making something out of nothing.
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Post by _ on Aug 15, 2017 21:10:30 GMT
What bar fight? You mean the bar fight where a witness confirmed the some unknown guy punched another unknown guy and Zeke just happened to be in the bar when it happened but Zeke wasn't involved at all in the fight? Again, the media making something out of nothing. The guy with the broken nose came running out of Zeke's room, so it's not like the story is completely made up. I don't know if he hit the guy, and you don't know, either. It's entirely possible that he only hits women.
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Post by marsexplorer on Aug 15, 2017 21:16:36 GMT
Again, the media making something out of nothing. The guy with the broken nose came running out of Zeke's room, so it's not like the story is completely made up. I don't know if he hit the guy, and you don't know, either. It's entirely possible that he only hits women. I don't put much stock in suspending guys for bar fights, unless a weapon is involved or it is an unprovoked attack. Hitting women is a different story, you never lay your hands on a woman in anger, NEVER!
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Post by flyerzzrul on Aug 15, 2017 21:16:50 GMT
Again, the media making something out of nothing. The guy with the broken nose came running out of Zeke's room, so it's not like the story is completely made up. I don't know if he hit the guy, and you don't know, either. It's entirely possible that he only hits women. And pulls their tops down in public .
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Post by ctown28 on Aug 15, 2017 21:36:03 GMT
They already concluded the bar fight thing What bar fight? You mean the bar fight where a witness confirmed the some unknown guy punched another unknown guy and Zeke just happened to be in the bar when it happened but Zeke wasn't involved at all in the fight? How come you're avoiding answering whether or not you think the 6 game suspension is fair? Too much of a conflict of interest for you?
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 15, 2017 21:37:36 GMT
No one hates the Cowboys more than me. Still, this suspension is ridiculous. I am actually hoping I can draft Zeke in the third round of some of my leagues because I think it will get reduced to 3-4 games. Zeke has some off field issues sure, but he was never charged with anything and as far as I can tell, the accuser is a money grubbing whore. That's the silver lining, he is gonna fall in fantasy drafts. I personally do auction > Snake, but if you do auction, be prepared to be in it for about 2-3 hours, only downfall but you get a swipe at anyone. Snake is so chance, but Zeke is gonna go cheap now. He will def fall to the 3rd round.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 21:47:49 GMT
What bar fight? You mean the bar fight where a witness confirmed the some unknown guy punched another unknown guy and Zeke just happened to be in the bar when it happened but Zeke wasn't involved at all in the fight? How come you're avoiding answering whether or not you think the 6 game suspension is fair? Too much of a conflict of interest for you? The suspension will be appealed so that might not be the final decision. So it doesn't make sense to comment on something that might not be final.
It's like when Berman made his incorrect decision to strike down Brady's 4-game suspension and then all you Brady fanboys kept saying that Brady was exonerated and the case was over. But I kept saying that the case wasn't over and the appellate court would probably overturn Berman's incorrect decision so we should wait for the appellate court's decision. And the appellate court affirmed that Brady was guilty of cheating and re-instated Brady's 4-game suspension for cheating.
In this case, the suspension is being appealed so an Arbitrator will be assigned and there'll be an Arbitration hearing so it doesn't make sense to comment now when the final decision hasn't been handed down yet.
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Post by ctown28 on Aug 15, 2017 22:07:25 GMT
How come you're avoiding answering whether or not you think the 6 game suspension is fair? Too much of a conflict of interest for you? The suspension will be appealed so that might not be the final decision. So it doesn't make sense to comment on something that might not be final.
It's like when Berman made his incorrect decision to strike down Brady's 4-game suspension and then all you Brady fanboys kept saying that Brady was exonerated and the case was over. But I kept saying that the case wasn't over and the appellate court would probably overturn Berman's incorrect decision so we should wait for the appellate court's decision. And the appellate court affirmed that Brady was guilty of cheating and re-instated Brady's 4-game suspension for cheating.
In this case, the suspension is being appealed so an Arbitrator will be assigned and there'll be an Arbitration hearing so it doesn't make sense to comment now when the final decision hasn't been handed down yet.
Nice deflection. When it was Brady you commented every step of the way, from teh initial suspension to the many appeals, now all of the sudden it's not fair to do that? Remember this initial suspension came from the corrupt commissioner himself, so why not answer the question of whether you think his initial decision is fair or not? Are you hoping for someone other than Goodell to hear the appeal so that you can say Goodells decision is meaningless so there's no point in commenting on it? We can all see right through you, you know it's an incorrect decision but are afraid to say so because it negates all your claims of fairness in the Brady case.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 23:11:03 GMT
The suspension will be appealed so that might not be the final decision. So it doesn't make sense to comment on something that might not be final.
It's like when Berman made his incorrect decision to strike down Brady's 4-game suspension and then all you Brady fanboys kept saying that Brady was exonerated and the case was over. But I kept saying that the case wasn't over and the appellate court would probably overturn Berman's incorrect decision so we should wait for the appellate court's decision. And the appellate court affirmed that Brady was guilty of cheating and re-instated Brady's 4-game suspension for cheating.
In this case, the suspension is being appealed so an Arbitrator will be assigned and there'll be an Arbitration hearing so it doesn't make sense to comment now when the final decision hasn't been handed down yet.
Nice deflection. When it was Brady you commented every step of the way, from teh initial suspension to the many appeals, now all of the sudden it's not fair to do that? Remember this initial suspension came from the corrupt commissioner himself, so why not answer the question of whether you think his initial decision is fair or not? Are you hoping for someone other than Goodell to hear the appeal so that you can say Goodells decision is meaningless so there's no point in commenting on it? We can all see right through you, you know it's an incorrect decision but are afraid to say so because it negates all your claims of fairness in the Brady case. What does the Elliott case have to do with the Brady case? It's 2 different un-related cases, just like the O.J. case and the Aaron Hernandez case were 2 different un-related cases.
In Brady's case, it was an integrity of the competition violation and the offender was not only caught red-handed but also tried to obstruct the investigation. In Elliott's case, the allegations are player misconduct that has nothing to do with integrity of the competition.
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Post by ctown28 on Aug 16, 2017 1:50:27 GMT
Nice deflection. When it was Brady you commented every step of the way, from teh initial suspension to the many appeals, now all of the sudden it's not fair to do that? Remember this initial suspension came from the corrupt commissioner himself, so why not answer the question of whether you think his initial decision is fair or not? Are you hoping for someone other than Goodell to hear the appeal so that you can say Goodells decision is meaningless so there's no point in commenting on it? We can all see right through you, you know it's an incorrect decision but are afraid to say so because it negates all your claims of fairness in the Brady case. What does the Elliott case have to do with the Brady case? It's 2 different un-related cases, just like the O.J. case and the Aaron Hernandez case were 2 different un-related cases.
In Brady's case, it was an integrity of the competition violation and the offender was not only caught red-handed but also tried to obstruct the investigation. In Elliott's case, the allegations are player misconduct that has nothing to do with integrity of the competition.
You don't see the similarity between the two? Both suspended for an excessive amount of games after cherry picking the evidence that makes them look guilty but ignoring everything that exonerates them? Why not just answer the question of what you think about Goodell's initial ruling? I know why you won't answer it and everyone else does, because it will out you as the hypocrite that everyone knows you are. You don't want to admit the commssioner is corrupt and has his own agenda.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 16, 2017 2:07:39 GMT
What does the Elliott case have to do with the Brady case? It's 2 different un-related cases, just like the O.J. case and the Aaron Hernandez case were 2 different un-related cases.
In Brady's case, it was an integrity of the competition violation and the offender was not only caught red-handed but also tried to obstruct the investigation. In Elliott's case, the allegations are player misconduct that has nothing to do with integrity of the competition.
You don't see the similarity between the two? Both suspended for an excessive amount of games after cherry picking the evidence that makes them look guilty but ignoring everything that exonerates them? 1st, in Brady's case, the NFL didn't ignore the arguments from Brady's lawyers trying to exonerate him. On the contrary, it was addressed and refuted. Brady's lawyers tried to exonerate Brady by arguing that the deflation in the footballs was caused entirely by weather. Professor Marlow (a Physics professor and former Chairman of the Department of Physics at Princeton University) addressed that argument and refuted it by confirming that the deflation in the Patriots footballs couldn't have been caused entirely by weather and had to be a combination of weather AND human tampering. 2nd, in Brady's case, the punishment wasn't excessive at all. On the contrary, the punishment was much too lenient. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. When the NBA determined that Draymond Green had committed a flagrant foul in Game 4 of the 2016 NBA Finals, they didn't say "Well, this is the NBA Finals so we shouldn't suspend him during the NBA Finals. We'll suspend him at the beginning of the next regular season instead." The NBA suspended him for the very next game - Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl. He should've been suspended for the next game, which was the Super Bowl. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. it will out you as the hypocrite that everyone knows you are. You don't want to admit the commssioner is corrupt and has his own agenda. Talk about being a hypocrite! We all know that you hate the Cowboys so you're glad that Zeke got suspended for 6 games. But you're pretending to be outraged by this so that you can once again complain that Brady was treated unfairly (even though he wasn't treated unfairly). That's YOUR agenda.
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Post by ctown28 on Aug 16, 2017 17:49:06 GMT
You don't see the similarity between the two? Both suspended for an excessive amount of games after cherry picking the evidence that makes them look guilty but ignoring everything that exonerates them? 1st, in Brady's case, the NFL didn't ignore the arguments from Brady's lawyers trying to exonerate him. On the contrary, it was addressed and refuted. Brady's lawyers tried to exonerate Brady by arguing that the deflation in the footballs was caused entirely by weather. Professor Marlow (a Physics professor and former Chairman of the Department of Physics at Princeton University) addressed that argument and refuted it by confirming that the deflation in the Patriots footballs couldn't have been caused entirely by weather and had to be a combination of weather AND human tampering. 2nd, in Brady's case, the punishment wasn't excessive at all. On the contrary, the punishment was much too lenient. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. When the NBA determined that Draymond Green had committed a flagrant foul in Game 4 of the 2016 NBA Finals, they didn't say "Well, this is the NBA Finals so we shouldn't suspend him during the NBA Finals. We'll suspend him at the beginning of the next regular season instead." The NBA suspended him for the very next game - Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl. He should've been suspended for the next game, which was the Super Bowl. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. it will out you as the hypocrite that everyone knows you are. You don't want to admit the commssioner is corrupt and has his own agenda. Talk about being a hypocrite! We all know that you hate the Cowboys so you're glad that Zeke got suspended for 6 games. But you're pretending to be outraged by this so that you can once again complain that Brady was treated unfairly (even though he wasn't treated unfairly). That's YOUR agenda. So you wanted Brady suspended for the SuperBowl with no investigation at all and to go on purely hearsay? And Professor Marlow still will not address the claims by MOST of his colleagues that if the other gauge that the referree claims to have used to his best recollection does in fact support the weather claims. I like Zeke, he is an Ohio State Buckeye, yes, I admit that I don't like the Cowboys, but this is a bullshit suspension and you know it. Why will you refuse to admit that the corrupt commissioner got it wrong again? Oh, and hows this for continuing the inconsistency, Goodell has appointed a secondary arbitrator for this case, which he did not do for the Brady hearing? Why do you suppose that is? He picks and chooses what he wants to do on a whim with no rhyme or reason. I really hope the arbitrator overturns the suspension and proves once again what an idiot the corrupt commissioner is
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Post by klawrencio79 on Aug 16, 2017 18:26:44 GMT
1st, in Brady's case, the NFL didn't ignore the arguments from Brady's lawyers trying to exonerate him. On the contrary, it was addressed and refuted. Brady's lawyers tried to exonerate Brady by arguing that the deflation in the footballs was caused entirely by weather. Professor Marlow (a Physics professor and former Chairman of the Department of Physics at Princeton University) addressed that argument and refuted it by confirming that the deflation in the Patriots footballs couldn't have been caused entirely by weather and had to be a combination of weather AND human tampering. 2nd, in Brady's case, the punishment wasn't excessive at all. On the contrary, the punishment was much too lenient. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. When the NBA determined that Draymond Green had committed a flagrant foul in Game 4 of the 2016 NBA Finals, they didn't say "Well, this is the NBA Finals so we shouldn't suspend him during the NBA Finals. We'll suspend him at the beginning of the next regular season instead." The NBA suspended him for the very next game - Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl. He should've been suspended for the next game, which was the Super Bowl. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Talk about being a hypocrite! We all know that you hate the Cowboys so you're glad that Zeke got suspended for 6 games. But you're pretending to be outraged by this so that you can once again complain that Brady was treated unfairly (even though he wasn't treated unfairly). That's YOUR agenda. So you wanted Brady suspended for the SuperBowl with no investigation at all and to go on purely hearsay? And Professor Marlow still will not address the claims by MOST of his colleagues that if the other gauge that the referree claims to have used to his best recollection does in fact support the weather claims. I like Zeke, he is an Ohio State Buckeye, yes, I admit that I don't like the Cowboys, but this is a bullshit suspension and you know it. Why will you refuse to admit that the corrupt commissioner got it wrong again? Oh, and hows this for continuing the inconsistency, Goodell has appointed a secondary arbitrator for this case, which he did not do for the Brady hearing? Why do you suppose that is? He picks and chooses what he wants to do on a whim with no rhyme or reason. I really hope the arbitrator overturns the suspension and proves once again what an idiot the corrupt commissioner is Using logic and facts to argue against a blockheaded, MASSIVE HYPOCRITE, midget asshole. Should work out nicely!
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 17, 2017 5:01:30 GMT
So you wanted Brady suspended for the SuperBowl with no investigation at all and to go on purely hearsay? Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl so yes, the appropriate punishment should've been suspended for the Super Bowl. As for the investigation, that can continue. It's no different than when a police office is accused of accepting a bribe or some other infraction. They don't let him stay on the job during the investigation. They either put him on desk duty or on administrative leave while the investigation is on-going. LIke I pointed out in my previous post, when the NBA determined that Draymond Green had committed a flagrant foul in Game 4 of the 2016 NBA Finals, they didn't say "Well, this is the NBA Finals so we shouldn't suspend him during the NBA Finals. We'll suspend him at the beginning of the next regular season instead." The NBA suspended him for the very next game - Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl. He should've been suspended for the next game, which was the Super Bowl. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. hows this for continuing the inconsistency, Goodell has appointed a secondary arbitrator for this case, which he did not do for the Brady hearing? Why do you suppose that is? He picks and chooses what he wants to do on a whim with no rhyme or reason. Just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean there isn't 1 and just because you don't like the reason doesn't mean it's an invalid reason. The Commissioner is like the CEO of the league. I'm pretty sure that the job of Commissioner has plenty of other duties besides serving as an Arbitrator for Arbitration hearings. If the Commissioner served as the Arbitrator for every single Arbitration hearing, he probably wouldn't have any time left for any of his other job duties. So he often has to delegate the duties to someone else so that he has time to do the other duties that his job requires. That's what CEOs do - they don't have time to sit in on every meeting so they delegate. As for why he delegated Zeke's Arbitration hearing to someone else but not Brady's Arbitration hearing, it could be that he doesn't have the time in his busy schedule to serve as the Arbitrator for Zeke's hearing but he had time available to serve as the Arbitrator for Brady's Arbitration hearing. Remember that Brady's Arbitration hearing was in June and Zeke's Arbitration hearing will be the end of August, less than 2 weeks before the beginning of a new season.
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Post by marsexplorer on Aug 17, 2017 5:09:29 GMT
Tom Brady? Who the fuck is that?
You people are pathetic.
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Post by _ on Aug 17, 2017 6:06:44 GMT
Tom Brady? Who the fuck is that? I'm assuming he was a young "cousin" character added to the Brady Bunch cast during it's final season.
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Post by ctown28 on Aug 17, 2017 15:04:54 GMT
So you wanted Brady suspended for the SuperBowl with no investigation at all and to go on purely hearsay? Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl so yes, the appropriate punishment should've been suspended for the Super Bowl. As for the investigation, that can continue. It's no different than when a police office is accused of accepting a bribe or some other infraction. They don't let him stay on the job during the investigation. They either put him on desk duty or on administrative leave while the investigation is on-going. LIke I pointed out in my previous post, when the NBA determined that Draymond Green had committed a flagrant foul in Game 4 of the 2016 NBA Finals, they didn't say "Well, this is the NBA Finals so we shouldn't suspend him during the NBA Finals. We'll suspend him at the beginning of the next regular season instead." The NBA suspended him for the very next game - Game 5 of the NBA Finals. Brady got caught cheating in the AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl. He should've been suspended for the next game, which was the Super Bowl. A 4-game suspension in the regular season for cheating in a postseason game to advance to the Super Bowl is nothing more than a slap on the wrist. hows this for continuing the inconsistency, Goodell has appointed a secondary arbitrator for this case, which he did not do for the Brady hearing? Why do you suppose that is? He picks and chooses what he wants to do on a whim with no rhyme or reason. Just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean there isn't 1 and just because you don't like the reason doesn't mean it's an invalid reason. The Commissioner is like the CEO of the league. I'm pretty sure that the job of Commissioner has plenty of other duties besides serving as an Arbitrator for Arbitration hearings. If the Commissioner served as the Arbitrator for every single Arbitration hearing, he probably wouldn't have any time left for any of his other job duties. So he often has to delegate the duties to someone else so that he has time to do the other duties that his job requires. That's what CEOs do - they don't have time to sit in on every meeting so they delegate. As for why he delegated Zeke's Arbitration hearing to someone else but not Brady's Arbitration hearing, it could be that he doesn't have the time in his busy schedule to serve as the Arbitrator for Zeke's hearing but he had time available to serve as the Arbitrator for Brady's Arbitration hearing. Remember that Brady's Arbitration hearing was in June and Zeke's Arbitration hearing will be the end of August, less than 2 weeks before the beginning of a new season. so based on this logic, Zelda should have been suspended as soon as the accusation was made and worry about the investigation later? so let's say that Goodall did what you say he should've and suspended Brady for the Super Bowl. now for the sake of discussion, let's say Ted Wells can't be bought and actually comes to the conclusion that it's a false accusation and it was weather alone that caused it. Now what does the NFL do, apologize to Brady and say "oops, my bad" or do they replay the game?
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 18, 2017 3:11:42 GMT
let's say that Goodall did what you say he should've and suspended Brady for the Super Bowl. That would've been the only fair punishment since Brady cheated in an AFC Championship Game to advance to that Super Bowl so Brady should've been suspended for that Super Bowl, not for 4 meaningless regular season games, which is nothing more than a slap on the wrist for cheating in a Conference Championship Game. let's say Ted Wells can't be bought Ted Wells can't be bought. Even Robert Kraft praised Wells for his integrity when Wells was hired to conduct the investigation. It was only after Wells came back with findings that Kraft didn't like that Kraft and Brady's lawyers dragged Wells' name and reputation through the mud. and actually comes to the conclusion that it's a false accusation and it was weather alone that caused it. It wasn't a false accusation and Professor Marlow (a Physics professor and former Chairman of the Department of Physics at Princeton University confirmed that weather alone couldn't have caused all the deflation in the Patriots footballs and that the deflation had to be caused by a combination of weather AND human tampering.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Aug 18, 2017 5:46:28 GMT
Why is it whenever something is brought up, it always comes back to fn Brady?
DC brought Brady up, no one else did. This was about Zeke, and here we go, we get to see DC be wrong about Brady again.
Hurray?
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