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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 1:48:24 GMT
I'm right and you are wrong. You can disagree all you like, but that is the fact. Childish as always you are. I didn't for him! I only checked the box next to his name on the ballot! You're childish!  |
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Post by thorshairspray on Aug 15, 2017 1:56:51 GMT
Dancing close to apologism, eh? It's called realism. Violence doesn't generally go from name calling to terrorist style attacks without escalation. You have to be joking right? You are actually trying to place the blame for this attack on Trumps campaign rhetoric? You honestly think that that was causal more than the year long campaign by Antifa to attack citizens constitutional rights? Its constant advocacy for violence against anyone it determines guilty of wrong think? Its actual violence against conservatives? Its attack on peoples private lives and jobs? The riots and destruction of private property? Who has spoken out against them? What action has been taken against an organisation that is a domestic terrorist group by definition? |
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Post by thorshairspray on Aug 15, 2017 2:10:03 GMT
He can't win. Did Obama ever condemn Islamic Terrorists by name? Nope, and we had a whole shit-fest about it on the old IMDB. His response was weak, I've said it before. HOWEVER - his reasoning was the same reason I wouldn't want Trump to term this "White Terrorism" - it's not whites, it's radical supremacist whites. When it comes to placing the blame for literal acts of murder, distinctions are important. It's almost as if the guy presided over a country full of hundreds of thousands of generation-long peaceful Muslim Americans alongside hundreds of thousands of state militia types willing to go-to with a gun and didn't want to see them all lumped together. Like he knew the kettle was ready to boil over and didn't want to turn up the heat the way Trump did. I think it was weak but I get it. I don't get being unable to even label this act terrorism on Trump's part, much less put the blame on the party that committed it. But... that's his voter block.  Took him ages to even disown David Duke's support. Yeah, dude, you're not really speaking to reality here. Punches have been thrown by "both sides". Not vehicles. Give it time, though. So what is your problem with what Trump said. "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides." The "on many sides" bit is obviously thrown in so he doesn't get shit when it emerges, as it will, that there was violence from both groups. And I was referring to the speech, not the violence. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 2:29:14 GMT
Are you actually claiming his campaign rhetoric did not abet the violence and embolden its perpetrators? We've had righty-tabloid sites feeding paranoia for years. Cars driven into crowds is new.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 2:30:21 GMT
OK, let's give it a bit and revisit this when it comes out that a counter-protester murdered a supremacist there. Cause I'm never, ever going to buy into downplaying murdering someone with a car by putting it on the same level of punches.
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Post by Vegas on Aug 15, 2017 3:32:41 GMT
Yup. A cnt you are.. and a cnt you will always be. The inability to spin it as all the answer needed. You being a cnt isn't a spin.... It just is. You playing the "U NO NO DAT RAZISTS ARE BAD. U DEFND BAD CAR MAN!!" is the spin, O Jackof jackoffs. |
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Post by Vegas on Aug 15, 2017 9:22:25 GMT
OK, let's give it a bit and revisit this when it comes out that a counter-protester murdered a supremacist there. Hey, Mr. Dodge-dodge.... There's your spin. Nice move of the goal posts. Soooo... If one lunatic hadn't lost his sht and used his car as a battering ram hours after the whole thing was declared canceled... You wouldn't attribute any violence to the Alt-right loonies? There has to be a death before you see any violence? That is just stupid and being willfully blind. You are seriously becoming a parody of yourself. Once again... because you are that type of a**hole... and the obvious has to be pointed out to you.... even though we all know that you'll just ignore it to believe your own narrative... Nobody is defending the alt-right here. |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 15, 2017 10:35:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:01:39 GMT
I'm right and you are wrong. You can disagree all you like, but that is the fact. Childish as always you are. I expected it, but you forgot to add, "Nanny-nanny-boo-boo," to your post like a typical immature little kid. And yet, even after you wrote that, I remain right and you remain wrong. Call me a faggot next, that usually works so well for you.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:03:38 GMT
The "on many sides" bit is obviously thrown in so he doesn't get shit when it emerges, as it will, that there was violence from both groups. And I was referring to the speech, not the violence. No, it was thrown in so that the people who caused the violence could say that the violence was caused by other people, and the racists merely tried to defend themselves - and that Trump agrees with this. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 16:19:47 GMT
One side using a car as a murder weapon is a "spin". Might alt-white of ya! I still remember that day back in high school... Becky hit Betty, Betty pulled Becky's hair, Becky got Betty in a headlock, Betty gave Betsy a shiner... ... then Becky declared herself racially superior and ran over Betsy in a car. Principal was right, though: there was "violence on both sides". |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 16:21:42 GMT
The "on many sides" bit is obviously thrown in so he doesn't get shit when it emerges, as it will, that there was violence from both groups. And I was referring to the speech, not the violence. No, it was thrown in so that the people who caused the violence could say that the violence was caused by other people, and the racists merely tried to defend themselves - and that Trump agrees with this. I don't get the "when it emerges" stuff - there are photos of demonstrators throwing punches everywhere. And I certainly don't get trying to spackle over running people down with a car with "but the other side threw punches, too!". The "on both sides" is a pretty transparent means of downplaying the terrorist act by equating it to black eyes. Trump's still courting those Swastikas. #MAGA baby! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:29:40 GMT
No, it was thrown in so that the people who caused the violence could say that the violence was caused by other people, and the racists merely tried to defend themselves - and that Trump agrees with this. I don't get the "when it emerges" stuff - there are photos of demonstrators throwing punches everywhere. And I certainly don't get trying to spackle over running people down with a car with "but the other side threw punches, too!". The "on both sides" is a pretty transparent means of downplaying the terrorist act by equating it to black eyes. Trump's still courting those Swastikas. #MAGA baby! It's remarkable if you compare the reaction to this with, say, the occasions when some muslim nutjob runs a car into a bunch of people. If Trump had responded to one of those events with "I condemn the violence on all sides", can you imagine the response? If the media equivocated on calling it an act of terrorism, can you imagine the response? The double standard is so stark that it's almost funny. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 16:53:52 GMT
I don't get the "when it emerges" stuff - there are photos of demonstrators throwing punches everywhere. And I certainly don't get trying to spackle over running people down with a car with "but the other side threw punches, too!". The "on both sides" is a pretty transparent means of downplaying the terrorist act by equating it to black eyes. Trump's still courting those Swastikas. #MAGA baby! It's remarkable if you compare the reaction to this with, say, the occasions when some muslim nutjob runs a car into a bunch of people. Need we make conjecture? Never mind Trump - this forum. I mean, remember when we were all told here to hold off judgement on the Manchester bombers because "maybe mental health"?  Now imagine if it was Muslim Americans at a demonstration and they drove a car into a crowd of conservative protesters. Imagine if Obama had joked about paying the legal bills should one of his supporters assault a conservative, then it happened. It would be another dimension. Hell, BLM didn't even come about until five years into Obama's run, yet their "his baby" if you read Breitbart. Whereas Trump actually COURTED white supremacists, vocally abetted violence by his own voters, and had to be pushed in condemning swastika-toting fecksticks, yet somehow none of them can see their way to acknowledging his part in this. It's MAYJIK I tells ya. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 15, 2017 17:00:29 GMT
It's remarkable if you compare the reaction to this with, say, the occasions when some muslim nutjob runs a car into a bunch of people. Need we make conjecture? Never mind Trump - this forum. I mean, remember when we were all told here to hold off judgement on the Manchester bombers because "maybe mental health"? Now imagine if it was Muslim Americans at a demonstration and they drove a car into a crowd of conservative protesters. Imagine if Obama had joked about paying the legal bills should one of his supporters assault a conservative, then it happened. It would be another dimension. Hell, BLM didn't even come about until five years into Obama's run, yet their "his baby" if you read Breitbart. Whereas Trump actually COURTED white supremacists, vocally abetted violence by his own voters, and had to be pushed in condemning swastika-toting fecksticks, yet somehow none of them can see their way to acknowledging his part in this. It's MAYJIK I tells ya. You're getting a little desperate now. Courted white supremacists? Baloney. How many more days are you going to drag this out? |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 17:38:37 GMT
Black protesters are "so bad for this country, folks" and "they used to get hurt for this." Offered to pay the legal bill for assault. You should have actually listened to the campaign speeches of the guy you voter for that you didn't vote for. But.. YEWTEWB! Sorry man I didn't know white nationalist terrorism only had a two day forum shelf life. We should get back to the important stuff. NIBIRU VIDEOS! Nice glimpse into your value system. Can't IMAGINE why you'd want people to let this go. Link more Pepe videos! #MAGA! |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 15, 2017 17:46:29 GMT
Black protesters are "so bad for this country, folks" and "they used to get hurt for this." Offered to pay the legal bill for assault. You should have actually listened to the campaign speeches of the guy you voter for that you didn't vote for. But.. YEWTEWB! Sorry man I didn't know white nationalist terrorism only had a two day forum shelf life. We should get back to the important stuff. NIBIRU VIDEOS! Nice glimpse into your value system. Can't IMAGINE why you'd want people to let this go. Link more Pepe videos! #MAGA! What have you got against Pepe? Are you bigoted against Amphibian-Americans? |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 15, 2017 17:48:58 GMT
Black protesters are "so bad for this country, folks" and "they used to get hurt for this." Offered to pay the legal bill for assault. You should have actually listened to the campaign speeches of the guy you voter for that you didn't vote for. But.. YEWTEWB! Sorry man I didn't know white nationalist terrorism only had a two day forum shelf life. We should get back to the important stuff. NIBIRU VIDEOS! Nice glimpse into your value system. Can't IMAGINE why you'd want people to let this go. Link more Pepe videos! #MAGA! What have you got against Pepe? Pepe's a great litmus test! The dog whistle anyone can hear. I encourage you to indulge. |
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Post by Vegas on Aug 15, 2017 17:49:01 GMT
One side using a car as a murder weapon is a "spin". Might alt-white of ya! I still remember that day back in high school... Becky hit Betty, Betty pulled Becky's hair, Becky got Betty in a headlock, Betty gave Betsy a shiner... ... then Becky declared herself racially superior and ran over Betsy in a car. Principal was right, though: there was "violence on both sides". Learn how to read fcknut. At this point you're just grasping at straws and claiming things that aren't even being said... You are that pathetic. Nobody suggested that the violence was equal. As a matter of fact, Duke Of Douchedom.. The OP was written before the car incident.... when it was probably closer to being so. At this point, you almost seem happy that the guy used his car as a weapon... Any reason to let your cnt light shine, I suppose. EDIT: And violence has a tendency to escalate.. If hadn't figured that out by now... |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 15, 2017 17:52:04 GMT
What have you got against Pepe? Pepe's a great litmus test! The dog whistle anyone can hear. I encourage you to indulge. Yeah, I heard the term "dog whistle" on the radio from your comrades yesterday. Hannity did a montage of them. Dog whistle. And you call me a paranoid conspiracy theorist? What a hypocrite. |
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