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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Aug 13, 2017 0:58:40 GMT
I forgot about Powlus. The way I remember the quote was "It's not a question of whether Powlus will win a Heisman but how many." It was after his first game as a freshman, a good game against an awful Northwestern team. He wasn't a bad college QB, 7,602 yards, 52 TDs. Playing for decent to mediocre Notre Dame teams. But I don't think he ever got a Heisman vote or a play in the NFL.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Aug 13, 2017 1:02:12 GMT
I forgot about Powlus. The way I remember the quote was "It's not a question of whether Powlus will win a Heisman but how many." It was after his first game as a freshman, a good game against an awful Northwestern team. He wasn't a bad college QB, 7,602 yards, 52 TDs. Playing for decent to mediocre Notre Dame teams. But I don't think he ever got a Heisman vote or a play in the NFL. beano! what a guy. forgot about that. dustin pedroia & cal ripken are way overrated.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Aug 13, 2017 1:06:40 GMT
Fidrych was a junkballer with nothing amazing except control. And his routine. I remember him in 1976. All anyone could talk about was the pitcher for Detroit who talked to baseballs. Fernandomania was nothing compared to The Bird. Hitters would have figured him out, even without the injuries, but he was a hoot.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Aug 13, 2017 1:09:05 GMT
Fidrych was a junkballer with nothing amazing except control. And his routine. I remember him in 1976. All anyone could talk about was the pitcher for Detroit who talked to baseballs. Fernandomania was nothing compared to The Bird. Hitters would have figured him out, even without the injuries, but he was a hoot. you read the book 'the wrong stuff' by bill lee? funny stuff. i think bill walton copied his whole wild hippy act from bill....
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 13, 2017 2:21:57 GMT
Freddy Adu - by the length of the straight. The kid was being described as the best player in the world at 14, would dominate the world of football for years to come and make USA a powerhouse. The 'hype' was extraordinary surrounding him. And frankly, he never even came close to doing any of it. At least most 'draft busts' have outstanding college careers. Adu didn't even have that. He played a handful of good games in the MLS as a teenager. That's it.
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Post by tristramshandy on Aug 13, 2017 2:39:06 GMT
I forgot about Powlus. The way I remember the quote was "It's not a question of whether Powlus will win a Heisman but how many." It was after his first game as a freshman, a good game against an awful Northwestern team. He wasn't a bad college QB, 7,602 yards, 52 TDs. Playing for decent to mediocre Notre Dame teams. But I don't think he ever got a Heisman vote or a play in the NFL. He was heavily recruited coming out of high school in Pennsylvania coal country back when that meant something (he went to Berwick, which was always in the USA Today's high school Top 25 back then). Beano always said good things about Notre Dame, Penn State, and Pitt.
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Post by tristramshandy on Aug 13, 2017 2:42:48 GMT
He passed in 2012. Worked pretty close to the end of his life - - Cowherd used to have him on every week during the football season. speaking of Notre Dame QBs - Rick Mirer - whata bust - went to the 'Hawks another 'Hawks bust of a QB - Dan McGwire - you live out that way - didn't he go to San Diego State? He did. For not being a power five school, SDSU had Marshall Faulk, Kawhi Leonard, and Tony Gwynn. Dan McGwire is a little bit more there style, though. 
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Post by marsexplorer on Aug 13, 2017 2:46:08 GMT
another 'Hawks bust of a QB - Dan McGwire - you live out that way - didn't he go to San Diego State? He was at Iowa for 2 seasons before he bolted for San Diego St after he realized he would never play for the Hawkeyes.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 13, 2017 9:26:06 GMT
another 'Hawks bust of a QB - Dan McGwire - you live out that way - didn't he go to San Diego State? He was at Iowa for 2 seasons before he bolted for San Diego St after he realized he would never play for the Hawkeyes. Tom Brady is the most over-hyped athlete of all-time. Even if you ignore the fact that it's been proven that 4 of his Super Bowl wins were won by cheating, Patriots fans make the claim that the Brady's 5 Super Bowl wins make him better than Montana, who never lost a Super Bowl and (even more impressive) never even threw an INT in a Super Bowl. But consider this: If Pete Carroll had given the ball to Marshawn Lynch instead of trying to throw at the 1-yard line and if the refs hadn't missed an obvious facemask penalty against the Patriots in last season's Super Bowl, then Brady is 3-4 in Super Bowls and no one would be saying that Brady is better than Montana. So basically, people are saying that Brady is better than Montana because Pete Carroll decided to throw the ball instead of giving it to Marshawn Lynch at the 1-yard line and because the refs missed any obvious facemask penalty against the Patriots in last season's Super Bowl, 2 plays in which Brady wasn't even on the field for. That shows how stupid it is to claim that a guy who lost 2 Super Bowls to inferior teams is better than a guy who not only never lost a Super Bowl but also never even threw an INT in a Super Bowl.
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Post by runie on Aug 13, 2017 9:55:02 GMT
Ali
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Post by runie on Aug 13, 2017 10:01:38 GMT
Freddy Adu - by the length of the straight. The kid was being described as the best player in the world at 14, would dominate the world of football for years to come and make USA a powerhouse. The 'hype' was extraordinary surrounding him. And frankly, he never even came close to doing any of it. At least most 'draft busts' have outstanding college careers. Adu didn't even have that. He played a handful of good games in the MLS as a teenager. That's it. you can not have a world class player unless he is at a european club from 13 on at the minimum(bar genius player)- the us system can not make one even the south americans have to come very early now as well due to the difference in sports science and development, but they can stay a bit longer in some cases due to the immense love , playing time and mass competition. a us kid will have to be scouted and bought and move and play in europe. or nadda will happen. the problem is if the grass roots are not good enough no one will care to even look.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:49:17 GMT
I dunno Runie, if you look at his record, he fought other all time greats who were reasonably close to his own age 11 times, he won 9 and lost 2 (I'm not including the Holmes fight in that). That is after almost 4 of his peak years were taken away from him. There is really no one else who comes even close to that in HW history. If that's not great I don't know what is. Unless you are referring to Ali Dia, the infamous Southampton player, yeah, he wasn't that good.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 13, 2017 11:07:33 GMT
Spoken like a true German fan there.
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Post by runie on Aug 13, 2017 11:37:42 GMT
I dunno Runie, if you look at his record, he fought other all time greats who were reasonably close to his own age 11 times, he won 9 and lost 2 (I'm not including the Holmes fight in that). That is after almost 4 of his peak years were taken away from him. There is really no one else who comes even close to that in HW history. If that's not great I don't know what is. Unless you are referring to Ali Dia, the infamous Southampton player, yeah, he wasn't that good. i would say the most overrated sportsmen are allways a very good sportsman any way - they are not bad by this definition - they are just very good but overrated due to certain reasons - in this case off field(out of ring) publicity and fame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:14:34 GMT
Been saying this for years and get tarred and feathered. 5 losses = 'The Greatest of All-Time'? 
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