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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 16, 2017 22:49:23 GMT
Ah. Was thinking the school itself. Oh. Basically, the scene where they've snuck onto the helicopter makes no sense to me. They don't know they're there, so how are their powers blocked? The whole movie is baffling. It's an exercise in trying to hard and not trying at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:00:34 GMT
Oh. Basically, the scene where they've snuck onto the helicopter makes no sense to me. They don't know they're there, so how are their powers blocked? The whole movie is baffling. It's an exercise in trying to hard and not trying at all. THANK YOU! Finally, someone else said it!
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 23:01:30 GMT
I was talking about the technology that was used in the helicopter. The thread is about Nightcrawler in the cage fight where the cage is electrified and Nightcrawler could've just teleported out. But the plot conveniently had it where an electrified fence kept him from getting out. They might as well have said that there has to be an open door for him to teleport out of a room. Yeah, that was implied to be the same thing. You can see people from the military in that scene.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 23:03:13 GMT
Ah. Was thinking the school itself. Oh. Basically, the scene where they've snuck onto the helicopter makes no sense to me. They don't know they're there, so how are their powers blocked? Because they have mutant prisoners on board(Beast, Mystique, and Quicksilver).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:09:26 GMT
Oh. Basically, the scene where they've snuck onto the helicopter makes no sense to me. They don't know they're there, so how are their powers blocked? Because they have mutant prisoners on board(Beast, Mystique, and Quicksilver). Stop trying to make excuses for obvious plot holes.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 23:14:42 GMT
Because they have mutant prisoners on board(Beast, Mystique, and Quicksilver). Stop trying to make excuses for obvious plot holes. Stop trying to ignore facts just for the sake of having an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:17:35 GMT
Stop trying to make excuses for obvious plot holes. Stop trying to ignore facts just for the sake of having an opinion. There are no facts to ignore. The film did not good a good job of explaining itself. You only think it did because you want to think it did. Or because you actually own the Blu-Ray and have seen the deleted scenes.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 23:19:34 GMT
Stop trying to ignore facts just for the sake of having an opinion. There are no facts to ignore. The film did not good a good job of explaining itself. You only think it did because you want to think it did. Or because you actually own the Blu-Ray and have seen the deleted scenes. Are you seriously saying that Beast, Mystique, Quicksilver, and Moira being captured is not a fact that was shown in the movie?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:22:45 GMT
There are no facts to ignore. The film did not good a good job of explaining itself. You only think it did because you want to think it did. Or because you actually own the Blu-Ray and have seen the deleted scenes. Are you seriously saying that Beast, Mystique, Quicksilver, and Moira being captured is not a fact that was shown in the movie? Scott, Jean, and Nightcrawler weren't. They stowed away and shouldn't have had any issues.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 16, 2017 23:25:35 GMT
Are you seriously saying that Beast, Mystique, Quicksilver, and Moira being captured is not a fact that was shown in the movie? Scott, Jean, and Nightcrawler weren't. They stowed away and shouldn't have had any issues. They stowed away in the same room as those who were captured.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:27:46 GMT
Scott, Jean, and Nightcrawler weren't. They stowed away and shouldn't have had any issues. They stowed away in the same room as those who were captured. And that takes us right back to Anti-Mutant Eectricity being bullshit. Bryan Singer is a lazy filmmaker who has no business making superhero films. You'll never convince me that Anti-Mutant tech would be possible in the early 80s, so give it up.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 16, 2017 23:41:24 GMT
You're trying to say that Weapon X was using simply using electricity? What the hell are you even talking about? And you will never convince that this film justified this new asspull of an Achilles' Heel for all Mutants. Marvel Studios could have, though.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 16, 2017 23:41:30 GMT
The thread is about Nightcrawler in the cage fight where the cage is electrified and Nightcrawler could've just teleported out. But the plot conveniently had it where an electrified fence kept him from getting out. They might as well have said that there has to be an open door for him to teleport out of a room. Yeah, that was implied to be the same thing. You can see people from the military in that scene. There was no military there. Only fight club guards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 23:45:04 GMT
Yeah, that was implied to be the same thing. You can see people from the military in that scene. There was no military there. Only fight club guards. Sh! He wants to live in his bubble where Apocalypse is actually considered to be a good movie. No never mind that the titular villain spends WAY too much time posturing and giving other people, instead of wielding his own power. Or that his "horsemen" spend too much time just standing around posing for a clothing commercial. Or that a series that's supposed to be allegorically about the Civil Rights Movements keeps pushing its minority characters like Storm and Jubilee to the side.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 17, 2017 1:49:26 GMT
Yeah, that was implied to be the same thing. You can see people from the military in that scene. There was no military there. Only fight club guards. I remember seeing at least one guy in a military suits with tons of badges on it.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 17, 2017 1:59:48 GMT
There was no military there. Only fight club guards. Sh! He wants to live in his bubble where Apocalypse is actually considered to be a good movie. No never mind that the titular villain spends WAY too much time posturing and giving other people, instead of wielding his own power. Or that his "horsemen" spend too much time just standing around posing for a clothing commercial. Or that a series that's supposed to be allegorically about the Civil Rights Movements keeps pushing its minority characters like Storm and Jubilee to the side. I see I have gotten under dat skin of your's. Bold: Okay, you just proved you didn't read the original Horsemen storyline. The movie version actually showcased Apocalypse powers way more than the comic version did. In fact, X-Factor Apocayplse isn't that powerful since Cyclops was the one that killed him. The comic version focus on the fall of Warren and Apocalypse's corruption of the horsemen. And lol lol getting up set at Jubilee being a cameo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 4:10:44 GMT
Sh! He wants to live in his bubble where Apocalypse is actually considered to be a good movie. No never mind that the titular villain spends WAY too much time posturing and giving other people, instead of wielding his own power. Or that his "horsemen" spend too much time just standing around posing for a clothing commercial. Or that a series that's supposed to be allegorically about the Civil Rights Movements keeps pushing its minority characters like Storm and Jubilee to the side. I see I have gotten under dat skin of your's. Bold: Okay, you just proved you didn't read the original Horsemen storyline. The movie version actually showcased Apocalypse powers way more than the comic version did. In fact, X-Factor Apocayplse isn't that powerful since Cyclops was the one that killed him. The comic version focus on the fall of Warren and Apocalypse's corruption of the horsemen. Keep dreaming. My complaints about the film prove nothing. I always knew any film version of Apocalypse would have to be scaled up considerably from the comic version, but the fact of the matter is, what Singer did with him doesn't work. XMA decided it wanted to be an epic, dark and edgy film and the villain needed to measure up. The trailer hyped the film version of Apocalypse as the ultimate evil and they failed to make him that. He wasn't even menacing in the slightest. So yeah, my complaint about Singer's Apocalypse lies with him failing to meet what the film required of him. So yeah, my complaint about him still stands. Nice try, though, but again you fail as you always do. Oh, I'm aware of how the Horsemen story went, which is WHY I'm angry that the Horsemen (except Magneto) do so little, character-wise, and only ever really mattered during the final fight. Warren doesn't have a character or an arc in the film. He's already fallen on hard times off-screen and gets unceremoniously killed after we learn nothing about this new Archangel and spend absolutely no time with him. Its an insult to have one of the original X-Men treated that way in the films. And I have absolutely no faith he will turn up alive when they get to Mr. Sinister. Storm is just a nothing of a character while Psylocke might as well have a handlebar mustache to twirl. The key villains needed more. Archangel and Storm should have been brought in much sooner in the new franchise, which would just leave Psyloche as the only one that needed introduction. Ultron and his sidekicks were WAY better.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Aug 17, 2017 5:52:45 GMT
I see I have gotten under dat skin of your's. Bold: Okay, you just proved you didn't read the original Horsemen storyline. The movie version actually showcased Apocalypse powers way more than the comic version did. In fact, X-Factor Apocayplse isn't that powerful since Cyclops was the one that killed him. The comic version focus on the fall of Warren and Apocalypse's corruption of the horsemen. Keep dreaming. My complaints about the film prove nothing. I always knew any film version of Apocalypse would have to be scaled up considerably from the comic version, but the fact of the matter is, what Singer did with him doesn't work. XMA decided it wanted to be an epic, dark and edgy film and the villain needed to measure up. The trailer hyped the film version of Apocalypse as the ultimate evil and they failed to make him that. He wasn't even menacing in the slightest. So yeah, my complaint about Singer's Apocalypse lies with him failing to meet what the film required of him. So yeah, my complaint about him still stands. Nice try, though, but again you fail as you always do. Oh, I'm aware of how the Horsemen story went, which is WHY I'm angry that the Horsemen (except Magneto) do so little, character-wise, and only ever really mattered during the final fight. Warren doesn't have a character or an arc in the film. He's already fallen on hard times off-screen and gets unceremoniously killed after we learn nothing about this new Archangel and spend absolutely no time with him. Its an insult to have one of the original X-Men treated that way in the films. And I have absolutely no faith he will turn up alive when they get to Mr. Sinister. Storm is just a nothing of a character while Psylocke might as well have a handlebar mustache to twirl. The key villains needed more. Archangel and Storm should have been brought in much sooner in the new franchise, which would just leave Psyloche as the only one that needed introduction. Ultron and his sidekicks were WAY better. You're complaining about Angel dying in an plane explosion. Which also happened in the original storyline. That is the equivalent of complaining about Bucky dying in the First Avengers. And the trailers hyped Apocalypse up as a powerful mutant rather than the ultimate evil. Which he questionably was. The first thing he did was stake the planet and his horsemen scenes look like something out of a slasher film.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 7:11:53 GMT
Keep dreaming. My complaints about the film prove nothing. I always knew any film version of Apocalypse would have to be scaled up considerably from the comic version, but the fact of the matter is, what Singer did with him doesn't work. XMA decided it wanted to be an epic, dark and edgy film and the villain needed to measure up. The trailer hyped the film version of Apocalypse as the ultimate evil and they failed to make him that. He wasn't even menacing in the slightest. So yeah, my complaint about Singer's Apocalypse lies with him failing to meet what the film required of him. So yeah, my complaint about him still stands. Nice try, though, but again you fail as you always do. Oh, I'm aware of how the Horsemen story went, which is WHY I'm angry that the Horsemen (except Magneto) do so little, character-wise, and only ever really mattered during the final fight. Warren doesn't have a character or an arc in the film. He's already fallen on hard times off-screen and gets unceremoniously killed after we learn nothing about this new Archangel and spend absolutely no time with him. Its an insult to have one of the original X-Men treated that way in the films. And I have absolutely no faith he will turn up alive when they get to Mr. Sinister. Storm is just a nothing of a character while Psylocke might as well have a handlebar mustache to twirl. The key villains needed more. Archangel and Storm should have been brought in much sooner in the new franchise, which would just leave Psyloche as the only one that needed introduction. Ultron and his sidekicks were WAY better. You're complaining about Angel dying in an plane explosion. Which also happened in the original storyline. That is the equivalent of complaining about Bucky dying in the First Avengers. And the trailers hyped Apocalypse up as a powerful mutant. Which he questionably was. The first thing he did was stake the planet and his horsemen scenes look like something out of a horror film. "You're complaining about Angel dying in an plane explosion. Which also happened in the original storyline." Congratulations on once again missing the point and obviously not reading these parts: "Warren doesn't have a character or an arc in the film. He's already fallen on hard times off-screen and gets unceremoniously killed after we learn nothing about this new Archangel and spend absolutely no time with him. Its an insult to have one of the original X-Men treated that way in the films.", and "I have absolutely no faith he will turn up alive when they get to Mr. Sinister." Secondly, no, he didn't die in the plane crash in the original comics. He was spirited away at the last second, because it was planned by Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister to turn him into Archangel. We actually see him perish in the film, meaning there will be no character development and no redemption for him. And we both know Bryan Singer doesn't value Warren the way Marvel Studios obviously values Bucky. We both also know he won't bring him back like they did Bucky. So you can take the face and shove it up your ass. No, this is the equivalent of complaining about all The Bourne adaptations killing Conklin off. Or Haldir in Lord of the Rings. If those scenes were intended to look like something out of a horror movie, they failed, because they're not frightening. There's a posturing Smurf-Man and his minions standing around looking like they're posing for clothing ads. Please, Loki and Ultron's staking out of the planet were more effective celluloid. Oh, and Quicksilver and Starlet Witch were actually active participants in every scene they were in during Age of Ultron. Much more effective than Storm, Psylocke, and Warren ceasing to even have lines for a long stretch of the film.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 17, 2017 12:48:51 GMT
You're complaining about Angel dying in an plane explosion. Which also happened in the original storyline. That is the equivalent of complaining about Bucky dying in the First Avengers. And the trailers hyped Apocalypse up as a powerful mutant. Which he questionably was. The first thing he did was stake the planet and his horsemen scenes look like something out of a horror film. "You're complaining about Angel dying in an plane explosion. Which also happened in the original storyline." Congratulations on once again missing the point and obviously not reading these parts: "Warren doesn't have a character or an arc in the film. He's already fallen on hard times off-screen and gets unceremoniously killed after we learn nothing about this new Archangel and spend absolutely no time with him. Its an insult to have one of the original X-Men treated that way in the films.", and "I have absolutely no faith he will turn up alive when they get to Mr. Sinister." Secondly, no, he didn't die in the plane crash in the original comics. He was spirited away at the last second, because it was planned by Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister to turn him into Archangel. We actually see him perish in the film, meaning there will be no character development and no redemption for him. And we both know Bryan Singer doesn't value Warren the way Marvel Studios obviously values Bucky. We both also know he won't bring him back like they did Bucky. So you can take the face and shove it up your ass. No, this is the equivalent of complaining about all The Bourne adaptations killing Conklin off. Or Haldir in Lord of the Rings. If those scenes were intended to look like something out of a horror movie, they failed, because they're not frightening. There's a posturing Smurf-Man and his minions standing around looking like they're posing for clothing ads. Please, Loki and Ultron's staking out of the planet were more effective celluloid. Oh, and Quicksilver and Starlet Witch were actually active participants in every scene they were in during Age of Ultron. Much more effective than Storm, Psylocke, and Warren ceasing to even have lines for a long stretch of the film. And Angel didn't have his wings when he was in that airplane explosion in the comics. In the movie, it was just a way to get rid of him. They could have showed him tense forward and go to an exterior shot of him flying out. I think they did a better job with Angel in First Class doing the Angel story than they did with him in Apocalypse.
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