OT: Trump is going to talk his way out of the white house

Yep, that is one thing, you are never ever going to top this.  It's a car crash, but it was always gonna be.

I really like House of Cards, the TV show, but I was watching the latest series and I couldn't help think to myself; "real life politics is now more entertaining than fictional politics."

Only in America.

Where to start?  Nobody condones killing cops, rioting or violence.  Obama spoke out against it.  Black professional athletes (you know, some of those leftist celebrities people are always complaining about) spoke out against the violence and killing of police officers, so don't tell me 'nobody cared.'  Drawing a comparison between BLM and white supremacists is insane.  The ethos behind those groups is completely opposite from one another.

Why are you taking this personally?  Are you that embarrassed that you voted for Trump?  Nobody in this thread said a word about all Trump voters being violent racists. 

'Unemployment is at a record low.'  I love it when people do this.  First of all, that's not true.  In a few states, not all, so your comment is false to begin with.  Secondly, Trump has been in office for 7 months and you're giving him all the credit for the national economy.  Speaking of the economy, Bill Clinton should be your favorite President.  We actually had a budget surplus under him.

We get 24/7 Trump bashing because the guy is an idiot manchild who is completely out of touch with reality.  Jesus, his own party (I'm assuming your party) is distancing themselves from this asshat for a reason, why are you still defending him? 

Maybe you shouldn't view the world in black and white and vote strictly on party lines.  Maybe you shouldn't vote for people who are clearly morons.  Either way don't take your buyer's remorse out on us.  The majority of voters tried to prevent this from happening, but there's no stopping this disaster now. 

it's the media fueling people's confirmation bias. esp. as all they have heard is trump is hitler, blah, blah, blah, from (wapo, ny times, cnn, bbc, etc) for 2 years now, so of course, that's what they 'see'.


if you want to understand confirmation bias, read a book, say on wild flowers,  read that book on wild flowers for 20 min. a day for a month. i guarantee you'll start to 'see' more wildflowers about 2 weeks into the daily reading, and a month later you'll wonder you missed seeing all these wildflowers before...


trump isn't going anywhere. the market has stopped adjusting to the media hysteria about 3 months ago.

I'm not sure what the news cycle is where you live, but BLM was pretty heavily criticized here in NY, a pretty left state, for the violence that occurred.  As for Obama, again, not sure how you can say this when he did, in fact, properly described it as despicable: Obama

The middle part you wrote (in italics), I actually agree with the first part of what you said, one of the left's biggest problems was that they refused to acknowledge acts of radical terrorism as what they were (even though the right takes the exact opposite position and it gets them tons of votes - that all muslims are radicals terrorists, which leads me to the next part).  Nobody says that all Trump voters are violent racists.  This is a completely false narrative.  One of my closest friends at work is probably the smartest guy I know.  Erudite and extremely well-read, he voted for Trump but because he's a dyed-in-the-wool Republican.  He's not a racist at all, and he's long since denounced Trump and says he'll vote for a D over Trump in the next election, even it means compromising some of his core Republican beliefs.  I know tons of non-racists like this who vote R for one reason or another.  However, it is worth noting that all KKK members, neo-Nazis and other Jew/black/gay/woman/other hating people tend to be Trump voters.  

But the issue here is not the condemning of violence, so you're mixing apples and oranges.  Nobody is calling on Trump or the right to condemn violence, that part is obvious.  It's when David Duke, the KKK and Nazi groups say things like "Jew will not replace us," "Jews belong in the ovens," something about faggots I don't remember exactly what (yes, there was video of all chants) and then they openly say that they are fulfilling Trump's vision of America, Trump should quickly distance himself from that, and instead he doesn't. Instead, he immediately fires off tweets like a 9-year old about a CEO who leaves his jobs council, but takes two days to even acknowledge what's going on at a national level.  THAT'S the issue.  Even prominent Republicans have an issue with it.  It's the exact opposite of what a president should be doing.  

This isn't even a 1st Amendment thing.  You went to law school, so you know that what these people are chanting and what they are spouting as their beliefs is not actually protected free speech, no matter much they like to claim that it is. You can believe what you want, you can (generally speaking) say what you want, but you can't advocate for, or openly promote, hate speech or hate groups.    Sure, BLM has done some violent things in the last, what, 1 year? The KKK has how many centuries worth of murders, terrorism, extortion, corruption, and how many other crimes going for it? How many millions of people did the Nazis arbitrarily murder? BLM just doesn't want black people to be treated like animals and they'll go away.  The KKK and Nazis want all blacks, Jews, women, gays and whoever else to be off this planet and they still won't go away.   

As for the last part (underlined), that gets talked about every single day in the news, as it's part of the national discussion, although I'm not sure why it should be mentioned as something positive for Trump.  None of his economic or tax policies have taken effect yet.  They are merely a continuation of the policies and trends we've had for the past 8 years. But I can see how people on the right can make this mistake.  8 years ago, you couldn't watch Fox News for 30 seconds without them mentioning how Obama stole everyone's tax dollars to bail out the banks. Problem is that while the bailout itself happened under Obama, the law that caused the bailout (TARP) was signed by Dubya in October, 2008.  

We can have a discussion as to what will happen when his economic and tax policies do take effect.  There will be some good and some bad as there always is.  I'm sure we wouldn't see eye to eye on it so it could make for a beneficial discussion for us all.  

Discuss sports here.

Someone who thinks BLM is a violent hate group is telling me I have poor reading comprehension.  Now I've seen it all.  

For the record, Trump is dumb.  This is indisputable.  Whether that's a reflection on you because you voted for him is not for me to judge.  Some of the most highly educated people in my social circle voted for Trump, if that makes you feel better.  That doesn't make them right or you stupid, but Trump will always be an imbecile.     

I was pretty fascinated with this election. I would tell people, it's ok with me that you're a Republican, it's ok with me if you don't care for Hillary, but how in your right mind can you vote specifically for Trump? Any of the other Republican candidates, I wouldn't have liked them probably, but it wouldn't have been such a profound embarrassment. I'm a democrat, but the year that McCain ran, I would have voted for him if it wasn't for Palin. I just don't see why people couldn't just look beyond the party labels. Trump is as much of a Republican as my cat. He would have run under any party just to get elected.

I don't understand what insane shit people are looking at when they say that nobody has ever endured such scrutiny as Trump has.  First off, it's just made up.  Secondly, if he doesn't like it, maybe he and his team shouldn't spew inane made-up shit on the spot if they can't handle a little fact-checking.  

Guess what, when you say that "no political figure in history has ever been treated so poorly before," do you honestly not know who Nelson Mandela is? It's fucking bananaland, this world we live in. 

To be honest nuts, I haven't liked Trump since well before he became a politician.