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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 17:40:11 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 17:49:43 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. Thank you. You can pretty much call a 'block in the back' on every kickoff and punt return under the sun. Numerous others I get 'annoyed' at - excessive celebration - but...but... My ultimate 'pet peeve' is 'Hands to the Face' - even if a player didn't grab the face mask. Hey - you're an O-Lineman trying to fight off a D-Lineman moving forward or a rampaging lightening quick linebacker or safety blitzing gunning for your QB - and you get one of your 'mitts' up and don't grab the facemask but being the 'position' you're in during the play - you get a flag because you 'touched' the head of the rampaging opposition ?!? link: Grizzly Man: Grizzly Bear Fight!
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Post by marsexplorer on Aug 19, 2017 17:53:06 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. I think a block in the back where it has no bearing on the runner advancing should be a no call. You know, those ones that happen way on the other side of the field or behind the play. Also, this new NFL rule where every review from every game is decided by the same official in New York is making the reviews take WAY too long. There is enough stoppage in these games, they don't need to make them longer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 18:11:43 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. Ineligible Receiver Downfield..... I'm sorry - I love me a 300 lb bull offensive lineman that shows a little initiative and after pancaking a D-Lineman is going all 'William Wallace' and proceeds to 'charge' and seek out nailing a safety of linebacker and the ball happens to 'fall' neatly into his hands...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 18:13:37 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. Roughing the Kicker Vs. Running Into the Kicker. Drop the horseshit and just call a 5 yard penalty - otherwise call it 'unnecessary roughness'
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 20, 2017 3:46:56 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. I think a block in the back where it has no bearing on the runner advancing should be a no call. You know, those ones that happen way on the other side of the field or behind the play. I agree. If it has no bearing on the play, it should be a no-call. The worst case I ever saw of a penalty for something that had no bearing on the play was in Super Bowl XLII. The Patriots had a 4th down and were punting. The Giants had 12 men on the field so the 12th man ran towards the Giants sideline to try to get off the field before the ball was snapped. But the ball was snapped a second before he could get off the field.
Belichick threw the challenge flag and the replay showed that the Giants player had his back to the rest of the players on the field and was a yard from the sidelines when the ball was snapped and he ran off the field right after the ball was snapped and punted. So he had no bearing on the play but the refs threw the flag against the Giants for too many men on the field and gave the Patriots 5 yards, which gave them a 1st down and allowed them to keep the drive alive. But even with a gift 1st down on that ticky-tack penalty that had no bearing on the play, Brady still couldn't score on that drive anyway.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 20, 2017 20:50:49 GMT
I think a block in the back where it has no bearing on the runner advancing should be a no call. You know, those ones that happen way on the other side of the field or behind the play. I agree. If it has no bearing on the play, it should be a no-call. The worst case I ever saw of a penalty for something that had no bearing on the play was in Super Bowl XLII. The Patriots had a 4th down and were punting. The Giants had 12 men on the field so the 12th man ran towards the Giants sideline to try to get off the field before the ball was snapped. But the ball was snapped a second before he could get off the field.
Belichick threw the challenge flag and the replay showed that the Giants player had his back to the rest of the players on the field and was a yard from the sidelines when the ball was snapped and he ran off the field right after the ball was snapped and punted. So he had no bearing on the play but the refs threw the flag against the Giants for too many men on the field and gave the Patriots 5 yards, which gave them a 1st down and allowed them to keep the drive alive. But even with a gift 1st down on that ticky-tack penalty that had no bearing on the play, Brady still couldn't score on that drive anyway.
I remember that play.
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Post by NJtoTX on Aug 20, 2017 21:13:38 GMT
How about when one minor penalty offsets sever others or more serious penalties? This was fun yesterday. youtu.be/yIgXVvKyzSw
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 16:17:44 GMT
It's interesting that fans like us pretty much know what penalties are stupid and should be no-calls but the league and the supposedly learned refs do not... what a disgrace. The fans should run the league...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 23:23:11 GMT
Will soon be a thing of the past. Every drive will start out on the 20, with no kickoffs. I wouldn't mind that, given the high percentage of touchbacks.
Of course, then we're robbed of glorious ineptitude like Mike Gillislee just watching the ball cross the goal line and allowing a Jet to fall on it for a TD.
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Post by NJtoTX on Aug 22, 2017 2:04:33 GMT
The snap misses by 0.1 second and what does the ref do?
Blow the whistle. Walk toward the sideline. Call out the quarterback for delay of game, even when he screamed for the dumb center to snap it. Goes back and moves the ball back 5 yards. Blows whistle again.
All the time, being the one delaying the game for real!
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Aug 22, 2017 5:53:28 GMT
Pretty much any penalty in any sport where commentators say something along the lines of "technical, but probably there" it's code for "FFS let them play."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:20:10 GMT
If there is something I hate in the NFL is the stupid illegal block in the back that negates most punt returns and kick-off returns for a touchdown. This penalty makes of one of the most exciting moments of the game, when it happens, a huge disappointment. It's called almost every time. When a returner scores a touchdown, before I celebrate I'll have to be looking for the flag and the inevitable call-back. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I know that the league wants to curtail injuries and worries about returns, but I'd love to see this kind of penalty waived in this kind of play (together with holdings). Just let them go at it gladiator style and whoever is able to either block/tackle/catch the returner or open a tunnel for the returner to proceed and score the TD, good for them. May the stronger and most athletic ones win, regardless of any block in the back or holding. OK, bring back the rules for other parts of the game or else the defenses would have a field day, but for the returns, it would be great to not have to worry about these penalties that aren't the most injury-prone ones anyway. Look at this beautiful, beautiful play by a Stanford special team (I know, not the NFL, but a good example nevertheless): linkYep, it didn't count. 'Illegal Formation' - drives me nuts - let the offense line up how they want
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 17:30:27 GMT
Yes, all of the above that people commented upon are maddening, and the worst part is that the league is likely to come up with more and more of the above, with the old glorious style of this fabulous sport getting less and less exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 17:43:00 GMT
Yes, all of the above that people commented upon are maddening, and the worst part is that the league is likely to come up with more and more of the above, with the old glorious style of this fabulous sport getting less and less exciting. 'illegal motion/illegal shift' 
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