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Post by klawrencio79 on Aug 21, 2017 19:21:09 GMT
New York - Ross Gload.
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Post by _ on Aug 21, 2017 19:37:04 GMT
Who's the most loved athlete in the history of your town/country Sports Fans? For all of St. Louis history, I would say it is easily Stan "The Man" Musial. But, he, and most of his fans, are now deceased. Kurt Warner and Albert "El Hombre" ( get it? ) Pujols both exceeded him, for a time. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Aug 21, 2017 21:10:00 GMT
The problem with some former Flyers is that while they were loved as players, their stints in the front office killed whatever good will they built up. Clarke, Holmgren, and now probably Hextall. Regarding Doc, I don't know enough about basketball. To say if he was the greatest SF of all time (probably not), but he was iconic. Totally different game than Bird though, but Bird is generally considered to be the superior player. Moses wasn't here long but he put us over the top. He was what Pete Rose became for us (don't start with your Rose bullshit). Fo fo fo was in the public domain that year. Carlton's beef was with the media, not the fans. The fans loved him. I saw him pitch in person many times, he was so good that he was simply called Lefty. Maybe because I wasn't around in that era above you stated, but I'd argue: Lindros - he was hated on here - ridiculously IMO - but also appreciated by a solid fanbase -did you see him come back the Winter Classic against the Rangers with tears in his eyes and get cheered? It was awesome. The week prior and after and has since made glowing comments about his time in Philly - but he got vilified by some by being a 'Momma's Boy' because his parents were looking out for his best. Anywho - it was nice to see him 'Come Home': link: Lindros Comes Home Here's a curve ball - McNabb Like Lindros - got hated on in this town unfairly IMO - but was appreciated by those who had brains (me) - that being said he's the greatest QB in the franchises history.  Donovan McNabb, unfairly or not, wouldn't even crack the top 10, not even top 5 Eagles. Remember, we're talking beloved, not a ranking of skill level. Just from the Eagles I would say Dawk, Reggie, Wilbert Montgomery, Westbrook, Jerome Brown, TO, and Jaws are more liked than 5. He was a very good (not great) player, but he was never loved. Lindros is probably more nostalgically loved than he was at the time. I had no problem with him, but around the middle of his career her was frequently hurt, couldn't win the big game, had asshole parents, and constant drama. I liked LeClair better. Schmidt is beloved now but not as much during his career. He didn't quite connect with the fans then but today I think he is pretty much universally loved and respected. But only outsiders would guess Schmidt instead of Iverson, and Iverson is #1 on that list by a mile. |
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Post by flyerzzrul on Aug 21, 2017 23:34:03 GMT
I disagree. Iverson is up there but he's not 1. Brian Dawkins is 1. Dutch, Bernie, Reggie also get recognition. Now if you said most beloved sports figure, it would be Harry! |
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Post by flyerzzrul on Aug 21, 2017 23:38:30 GMT
It probably depends on who you ask for Boston. Orr? Williams? Russell? Bird? Brady? I really don't know. And honestly I'm surprised you say Iverson for Philly. Chamberlain, Erving, Schmidt? Wilt was too long ago, Schmidt is loved now but wasn't appreciated as much while he was playing. Doc was a good one, I can't believe I forgot him. |
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Post by flyerzzrul on Aug 21, 2017 23:50:48 GMT
I rank Philly as follows: 1. Allen Iverson by a lot. 2. Brian Dawkins follows by a lot over everyone else. 3. Chase Utley Then in some order Doc, Bernie Parent, Reggie White, Moses Malone, Steve Carlton. Agree with your 1,2,3 Too young for the others - maybe you can school me. Doc. Do you regard him as one of the greatest SF of All-Time - or....perhaps the inventor of the Human Highlight Reel - i.e. Dr. Dunk and the first jaw dropping hoopster. I'm ignorant in a sense all I have to go off of is clips and i've gotten bashed for this beyond belief with Bird - but I view Doc as a level or two below Bird. Parent - interesting. Not Clarkie? White - I don't know dude - I think a lot of Philadelphians have a bad taste in their mouth for MR. JESUS running to Green Bay because 'GOD' told him too. Moses - Meh - his old 'fo'fo'fo'fo' quote is kind of like his Shrek personality. Carlton? Jesus - That cat had '0' personality whatsover and never talked to the media. Love 1, 2, and 3 though. Reggie left because Braman offered him the league minimum when his contract was up, because Reggie was considered a trouble maker for speaking against management, he wanted to stay in Philly. He said God led him to GB as opposed to other cities but not opposed to Philly. |
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Aug 22, 2017 1:55:38 GMT
Lithgow
Marjorie Jackson
Track and field
2x Olympic Gold Medalist and future governor of South Australia.
Wish I was still out at Cootamundra, Australia's greatest cricketer, most loved tennis player and some of their greatest ever footballers. One town of 6000 people just shouldn't be capable of that.
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Post by tristramshandy on Aug 22, 2017 4:35:46 GMT
San Diego: Tony Gwynn over Junior Seau. Gwynn wasn't from San Diego, but he went to San Diego State, played both baseball and basketball there, played his whole career for the Padres, and then coached San Diego State baseball and called games for the Padres. Seau was from San Diego (Oceanside) but went to USC. Both gone WAY too early.
Pittsburgh: The Rooneys would win out over any player. There is a great choice from each Pittsburgh sport: Roberto Clemente, Joe Greene, and Mario Lemieux. Football is the most popular sport, which helps Greene. Only two Steelers have their numbers retired, and he's one of them. He is the player that turns the franchise around. Clemente has a bridge named after him, the only one of Pittsburgh's 446 which is named after an athlete, so he obviously ranks. But I think Lemieux would be the winner: won two titles and was owner for another three. The Crosby Cups would have been in Kansas City if Lemieux didn't buy the team.
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Post by xystophoros on Aug 22, 2017 4:58:27 GMT
In New York it's always guys like Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Joe Namath, Walt Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Eli Manning, Bernie Williams, John Starks, and a whole lot of Rangers and Islanders whose names I don't know because I don't know shit about the NHL.
I guess nowadays Jeter sits at the top of the pantheon, but a lot of guys from that era remained here and are active in the community. Bernie Williams is always playing some venue with his band, and they're really good, I've seen them live. Rivera owns a restaurant and is a big philanthropist and local church guy.
But I'd have to say Jeter overall for his fairy tale of a career. Even his last game, at the end of an increasingly absurd and annoying goodbye season with 30 different send-offs in 30 different parks, was as magical as it gets. Sports writers were jerking off to it for months. Jeter sold millions of dollars worth of "RE2PECT" merchandise. And Alex Rodriguez probably watched the whole thing at home, fuming as he was attended to by a bevy of female bodybuilders.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:41:16 GMT
I disagree. Iverson is up there but he's not 1. Brian Dawkins is 1. Dutch, Bernie, Reggie also get recognition. Now if you said most beloved sports figure, it would be Harry! I think Kalas really took a hit when it came out he was pretty much a 'playboy' on the road..... For me that 2008 WS call is 100 times better from Joe Buck than Kalas (yeah - i get vilified for that opinion) - but it gives me goose bumps years later. link: Joe Buck - Phillies Are World Champions! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:45:06 GMT
Who's the most loved athlete in the history of your town/country Sports Fans? For all of St. Louis history, I would say it is easily Stan "The Man" Musial. But, he, and most of his fans, are now deceased. Kurt Warner and Albert "El Hombre" ( get it? ) Pujols both exceeded him, for a time. where do you put Brett Hull |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:49:29 GMT
Agree with your 1,2,3 Too young for the others - maybe you can school me. Doc. Do you regard him as one of the greatest SF of All-Time - or....perhaps the inventor of the Human Highlight Reel - i.e. Dr. Dunk and the first jaw dropping hoopster. I'm ignorant in a sense all I have to go off of is clips and i've gotten bashed for this beyond belief with Bird - but I view Doc as a level or two below Bird. Parent - interesting. Not Clarkie? White - I don't know dude - I think a lot of Philadelphians have a bad taste in their mouth for MR. JESUS running to Green Bay because 'GOD' told him too. Moses - Meh - his old 'fo'fo'fo'fo' quote is kind of like his Shrek personality. Carlton? Jesus - That cat had '0' personality whatsover and never talked to the media. Love 1, 2, and 3 though. Reggie left because Braman offered him the league minimum when his contract was up, because Reggie was considered a trouble maker for speaking against management, he wanted to stay in Philly. He said God led him to GB as opposed to other cities but not opposed to Philly. He offered Reggie White the league minimum?  that's some awesome stuff right there.....  talk about a 'Boss' |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 12:57:16 GMT
San Diego: Tony Gwynn over Junior Seau. Gwynn wasn't from San Diego, but he went to San Diego State, played both baseball and basketball there, played his whole career for the Padres, and then coached San Diego State baseball and called games for the Padres. Seau was from San Diego (Oceanside) but went to USC. Both gone WAY too early. Pittsburgh: The Rooneys would win out over any player. There is a great choice from each Pittsburgh sport: Roberto Clemente, Joe Greene, and Mario Lemieux. Football is the most popular sport, which helps Greene. Only two Steelers have their numbers retired, and he's one of them. He is the player that turns the franchise around. Clemente has a bridge named after him, the only one of Pittsburgh's 446 which is named after an athlete, so he obviously ranks. But I think Lemieux would be the winner: won two titles and was owner for another three. The Crosby Cups would have been in Kansas City if Lemieux didn't buy the team. Where's Fouts and Winslow on that list? Pittsburgh - jesus - that may be tougher than Texas and Boston. Where would you put Crosby and Jagr? Was 'Bradshaw' loved there? Gotta be honest - some find him annoying - i love the guy What about Willie Stargell from the Buccos? was he loved or no? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 13:01:43 GMT
In New York it's always guys like Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Joe Namath, Walt Clyde Frazier, Willis Reed, Eli Manning, Bernie Williams, John Starks, and a whole lot of Rangers and Islanders whose names I don't know because I don't know shit about the NHL. I guess nowadays Jeter sits at the top of the pantheon, but a lot of guys from that era remained here and are active in the community. Bernie Williams is always playing some venue with his band, and they're really good, I've seen them live. Rivera owns a restaurant and is a big philanthropist and local church guy. But I'd have to say Jeter overall for his fairy tale of a career. Even his last game, at the end of an increasingly absurd and annoying goodbye season with 30 different send-offs in 30 different parks, was as magical as it gets. Sports writers were jerking off to it for months. Jeter sold millions of dollars worth of "RE2PECT" merchandise. And Alex Rodriguez probably watched the whole thing at home, fuming as he was attended to by a bevy of female bodybuilders. do people not like Ewing up there for not bringing a title? |
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Post by NJtoTX on Aug 22, 2017 13:03:55 GMT
Pittsburgh - jesus - that may be tougher than Texas and Boston. The parts of Texas have their own heroes, mostly Cowboys. We're just in a weird spot here - 3 hours away from both Dallas and Houston. Over an hour from San Antonio, but football rules. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 22, 2017 15:20:54 GMT
Michael Pinball Clemons - relocated from Florida, has lived & worked in Toronto all his adult life, sells the city harder & with more energy than anyone.
Wendel Clark - basically what all Leaf fans hope for from basically every single player.
DeMar DeRozan - because he's stayed & embraced the city, & taken the team to its so far highest achievements.
Joe Carter - energy guy from the WS teams, still does a lot (charity work) in & around the city.
Johnny Bower - Leaf great, though much more revered for his legacy & off ice self.
On the clock - Austen Matthews & Mitch Marner (because he's from here).
We have (media) bromances on Andrew Wiggins & Milos Raonic, also locals.
The Leafs with all their history seem to really only have generational greats, Bower, Sittler, Keon... there hasn't really been an icon like Maurice Richard, Orr, Hull, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:31:06 GMT
Michael Pinball Clemons - relocated from Florida, has lived & worked in Toronto all his adult life, sells the city harder & with more energy than anyone. Wendel Clark - basically what all Leaf fans hope for from basically every single player. DeMar DeRozan - because he's stayed & embraced the city, & taken the team to its so far highest achievements. Joe Carter - energy guy from the WS teams, still does a lot (charity work) in & around the city. Johnny Bower - Leaf great, though much more revered for his legacy & off ice self. On the clock - Austen Matthews & Mitch Marner (because he's from here). We have (media) bromances on Andrew Wiggins & Milos Raonic, also locals. The Leafs with all their history seem to really only have generational greats, Bower, Sittler, Keon... there hasn't really been an icon like Maurice Richard, Orr, Hull, etc. wow. you guys really hate Mats Sundin up there don't you? What about Felix 'The Cat' Potvin ................. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 22, 2017 15:32:23 GMT
Philly is easily Iverson and there is no debate here. Sure, Dawkins is universally loved, but he is not as recognized as Iverson. Half his fans could not pick Dawkins out of a lineup, yet Iverson is a God here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:33:48 GMT
Pittsburgh - jesus - that may be tougher than Texas and Boston. The parts of Texas have their own heroes, mostly Cowboys. We're just in a weird spot here - 3 hours away from both Dallas and Houston. Over an hour from San Antonio, but football rules. what do you think about Lee Trevino and this opens up a whole other can of worms.... because i don't regard 'golfers' - 'athletes' |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 22, 2017 15:37:44 GMT
Michael Pinball Clemons - relocated from Florida, has lived & worked in Toronto all his adult life, sells the city harder & with more energy than anyone. Wendel Clark - basically what all Leaf fans hope for from basically every single player. DeMar DeRozan - because he's stayed & embraced the city, & taken the team to its so far highest achievements. Joe Carter - energy guy from the WS teams, still does a lot (charity work) in & around the city. Johnny Bower - Leaf great, though much more revered for his legacy & off ice self. On the clock - Austen Matthews & Mitch Marner (because he's from here). We have (media) bromances on Andrew Wiggins & Milos Raonic, also locals. The Leafs with all their history seem to really only have generational greats, Bower, Sittler, Keon... there hasn't really been an icon like Maurice Richard, Orr, Hull, etc. wow. you guys really hate Mats Sundin up there don't you? What about Felix 'The Cat' Potvin ................. That Sundin was acquired for Clark wasn't the greatest bedrock. Nor that he wasn't an Ontarian, let alone Canadian. We always respected him & his game, having to carry the f'n team to conference finals with the likes of Jonus Hoglund or Fredrik Modin playing wings. Potvin is in a class with the likes of Roberto Alomar - we seem to embrace them more than they do in return. Alomar has come around some since his HOF legacy kicked in. Potvin was always just a quiet loner type, he's fun but never really seen or heard around town. Vince Carter btw has only grown in stature, now that basketball culture & local talent have become realities. There's a doc this summer/fall The Carter Effect. He'll have his number retired once he's retired, but for reasons beyond simply his play. |
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