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Post by permutojoe on Aug 22, 2017 3:52:05 GMT
Power and control through degradation, fear, and dependence.
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 22, 2017 4:44:04 GMT
And what degradation would that be?
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Post by permutojoe on Aug 22, 2017 12:07:22 GMT
And what degradation would that be? You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me?
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Post by kls on Aug 22, 2017 12:10:37 GMT
And what degradation would that be? You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me? I've never received that message.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 22, 2017 13:30:12 GMT
I'm degraded far more by theophobiacs.
They repeatedly tell me I'm inferior to them based on my beliefs.
I would need therapy if not for their miniscule numbers and constant inaccuracies...
On the plus side, there's no reason to fear them and they have noting so nothing to be dependent on.
Now I just have to join up with a religion that makes me scared and addicted.
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 22, 2017 20:53:51 GMT
tpfkar I'm degraded far more by theophobiacs. They repeatedly tell me I'm inferior to them based on my beliefs. I would need therapy if not for their miniscule numbers and constant inaccuracies... On the plus side, there's no reason to fear them and they have noting so nothing to be dependent on. Now I just have to join up with a religion that makes me scared and addicted. Gets you to lash out with silly often enough.  But seriously, what's not to love about the Huxtable boy? However, this word is no big deal. It took me forever to find it after being chastised for using the h-word.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 23:56:50 GMT
And what degradation would that be? You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me? It's worse even than that. If you stay with me, you're still a bad person - nothing can ever stop you from being bad, not even me. It's just that if you stay with me, and constantly strive to please me, I'll forgive you for the evil within you that you can do nothing about. Notice that this means that you can never leave me, even if you want to? Because without my forgiveness, you will ultimately be punished.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 23:58:21 GMT
I'm degraded far more by theophobiacs. They repeatedly tell me I'm inferior to them based on my beliefs. Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you.
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Post by THawk on Aug 23, 2017 12:45:36 GMT
And what degradation would that be? You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me? That's a really bad misrepresentation. Or your idea to Christianity is restricted to right-wing American Bible-belters. Open your mind.
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 23, 2017 13:19:06 GMT
You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me? That's a really bad misrepresentation. Or your idea to Christianity is restricted to right-wing American Bible-belters. Open your mind. Or maybe more to the point, somebody really %&@$ed him up when he was little, in which case that fault lies with the person, not with God.
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 23, 2017 13:22:06 GMT
I'm degraded far more by theophobiacs. They repeatedly tell me I'm inferior to them based on my beliefs. Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you. You're kidding, right? They think Christians should lose custody of their kids for child abuse simply because they are Christians and raise their children in the same faith. Funny I don't hear anybody ever suggesting that about Muslims whose religion believes it's okay to stone rape victims to death because they don't view rape as any different than a consensual affair that shames their family.
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Post by kls on Aug 23, 2017 13:30:16 GMT
Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you. You're kidding, right? They think Christians should lose custody of their kids for child abuse simply because they are Christians and raise their children in the same faith. Funny I don't hear anybody ever suggesting that about Muslims whose religion believes it's okay to stone rape victims to death because they don't view rape as any different than a consensual affair that shames their family. I've never met someone who believes that.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Aug 23, 2017 14:11:24 GMT
Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you. You're kidding, right? They think Christians should lose custody of their kids for child abuse simply because they are Christians and raise their children in the same faith. Funny I don't hear anybody ever suggesting that about Muslims whose religion believes it's okay to stone rape victims to death because they don't view rape as any different than a consensual affair that shames their family. You're a damn liar and an imbecile.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 14:31:26 GMT
You're kidding, right? They think Christians should lose custody of their kids for child abuse simply because they are Christians and raise their children in the same faith. Who says that? Point to an example.
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Post by tickingmask on Aug 23, 2017 17:17:32 GMT
Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you. You do it all the time - indeed I very rarely see you pass up a chance to make some bitchy comment about Christians that usually has nothing to do with their religion or beliefs. Like that time you said Christians in the west are jealous of Saudi Arabians because they don't get to put gay people to death like the Saudis do. Or the time you said that Ada's bitchiness was "an advertisement for atheism".
Tell me you personally don't think you are infinitely superior to religious people, and I'll call you a liar.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 18:15:47 GMT
Do they, though? I've very rarely seen a "theophobiac" say any such thing. I see plenty of them attacking your religion and your beliefs, but not you. You do it all the time - indeed I very rarely see you pass up a chance to make some bitchy comment about Christians that usually has nothing to do with their religion or beliefs. Oh? Which is about christians and their beliefs. That is a statement of fact about an individual, nothing to do with "christians". I don't believe I am superior to christians in any way other than having more rational beliefs in the field of religion. And that is true whether you call me a liar or not.
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Post by permutojoe on Aug 24, 2017 0:18:16 GMT
You're a deeply flawed individual. Born that way. You're a bad, no, horrible person unless you stay with me and give me constant attention and approval. And do we even need to get into what will happen if you dare leave me? That's a really bad misrepresentation. Or your idea to Christianity is restricted to right-wing American Bible-belters. Open your mind. You seriously think that's limited to bible belters? And I'm the one that needs to open his mind?
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Post by allaby on Aug 25, 2017 1:05:30 GMT
I've been a Christian for over 30 years and I never once felt or thought that way. The Christianity I believe in teaches that God loves everyone and that we are valuable and beautiful. All of us are imperfect, but God offers forgiveness and mercy. There is no fear or degradation for me.
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Post by permutojoe on Aug 26, 2017 0:17:18 GMT
I've been a Christian for over 30 years and I never once felt or thought that way. The Christianity I believe in teaches that God loves everyone and that we are valuable and beautiful. All of us are imperfect, but God offers forgiveness and mercy. There is no fear or degradation for me. Some denominations are a little more laid back with things like going to hell and original sin these days. There may be some that don't go there at all even, but I'm not aware of any if they exist.
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Post by dougb on Aug 27, 2017 13:04:33 GMT
Sadly Christianity has very little to do with the teachings of Jesus due to the political hatchet job done on him by St.Paul.
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