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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 24, 2017 5:17:27 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 will be a standalone adventure not linked to other Marvel filmsJust like what Matt Reeves said about The Batman movie. But MCU fans are too dumb to understand that what Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie. Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 5:22:39 GMT
Anne_Hathaway-Fan, you still haven't given your thoughts on the DCEU's upcoming reboot! Now that the franchise is dying a painful, but swift, death, what do you think it'll be like?
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 24, 2017 5:43:42 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 will be a standalone adventure not linked to other Marvel filmsJust like what Matt Reeves said about The Batman movie. But MCU fans are too dumb to understand that what Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie. Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU. You poor, poor little fool. Repeating the same shit over and over doesn't make it true. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Aug 24, 2017 5:54:56 GMT
I think you're confusing "standalone adventure" and "not part of the MCU" like the title of your thread suggests. Yes, the Guardians of the Galaxy do stand on their own compared to the other Marvel heroes in the MCU with hardly any mentions of previous films or cameos of other heroes because have their own cosmic adventures and protect the galaxy, but it's still set in the same universe. They're going to help the Avengers fight Thanos in the next Avengers movie. Wonder Woman stands on its own, but it's still part of the same universe.
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Post by raiderjedi on Aug 24, 2017 6:32:27 GMT
Matt Reeves, director of the upcoming “The Batman,” says the film won’t be a part of the DC Extended Universe that includes the Justice League and Wonder Woman, but rather a standalone Bat-story. Now, you may continue your trolling. You're adorable. Borderline retarded, but adorable none the less. www.thewrap.com/matt-reeves-batman-dc-extended-universe/link
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 24, 2017 6:41:58 GMT
Matt Reeves, director of the upcoming “The Batman,” says the film won’t be a part of the DC Extended Universe that includes the Justice League and Wonder Woman, but rather a standalone Bat-story. Now, you may continue your trolling. You're adorable. Borderline retarded, but adorable none the less. www.thewrap.com/matt-reeves-batman-dc-extended-universe/link
And James Gunn said GotG2 isn't part of MCU but rather a standalone story. |
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Post by sostie on Aug 24, 2017 7:53:32 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 will be a standalone adventure not linked to other Marvel filmsJust like what Matt Reeves said about The Batman movie. But MCU fans are too dumb to understand that what Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie. Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU. A thread about GOTG2, followed by a tirade that doesn't even mention GOTG2! And I suggest (as has been suggested many times before in other threads) that you go back a read the contents of your link. At no point does it say it is NOT part of the MCU...director says "...there will be no infinity stones in Vol. 2." and “There will be infinity nothing. It’s a story about the Guardians, and isn’t meant to lead to anything else.” You seem to be having difficulty understanding what a supporting character is Like Suicide Squad had to. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 24, 2017 8:08:29 GMT
yes, thank you that's a interesting contribution regarding the storytelling approach.
I would prefer such standalone approach for The Batman or The Joker movies, namely without any story-unrelated characters and scenes artificially inserted to boost other DC films. In the MCU films this approach usually drags the story to a grinding halt by forcing in scenes that should be cut, most infamous example IM2 or Wheedon being forced to include the Thor-takes-a-bath-and-has-a-vision scene, or Cap3 not being about Cap but the Avengers plus the origin storys for Spiderboy and Black Catman. Simply bad.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 24, 2017 12:16:55 GMT
yes, thank you that's a interesting contribution regarding the storytelling approach.
I would prefer such standalone approach for The Batman or The Joker movies, namely without any story-unrelated characters and scenes artificially inserted to boost other DC films. In the MCU films this approach usually drags the story to a grinding halt by forcing in scenes that should be cut, most infamous example IM2 or Wheedon being forced to include the Thor-takes-a-bath-and-has-a-vision scene, or Cap3 not being about Cap but the Avengers plus the origin storys for Spiderboy and Black Catman. Simply bad.
So you think putting in the extra effort to show that it's all one world is bad, and they should pretend they all exist on their own like a good little reactionary. Just because DC was that lazy in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't move on and accept that Shared Universe's are a thing now. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 24, 2017 15:50:39 GMT
yes, thank you that's a interesting contribution regarding the storytelling approach.
I would prefer such standalone approach for The Batman or The Joker movies, namely without any story-unrelated characters and scenes artificially inserted to boost other DC films. In the MCU films this approach usually drags the story to a grinding halt by forcing in scenes that should be cut, most infamous example IM2 or Wheedon being forced to include the Thor-takes-a-bath-and-has-a-vision scene, or Cap3 not being about Cap but the Avengers plus the origin storys for Spiderboy and Black Catman. Simply bad.
So you think putting in the extra effort to show that it's all one world is bad, and they should pretend they all exist on their own like a good little reactionary. Just because DC was that lazy in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't move on and accept that Shared Universe's are a thing now. DC seems go a level beyond this by employing a Multiverse approach, which is kind of unique?
I know the Arrow/Flash/SuperGirl shows are super popular, but I find them on MCU-level annoying and childish and am very happy that they form their own shared sub-galaxy. Same with the animation and comics.
I am happy if not every new movie is part of an all-consuming shared universe approach but that there are alternative universes with differnet takes on Joker, Bats, Supes etc... hell we currently have different Flashes, Supes etc already.
And the great thing is that DC has so many nuanced characters: I want to see Detective Bats, Miller-killer Bats, TDK Bats and goofy Bats too, same with all types of Jokers. Marvel characters always stay the same, there is no artistic variation and reinterpretation, so the mono-universe approach is just fine for those.
DC is simply too big and varied to be stuffed in just one stale, stagnant and slow universe.
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Post by primeone on Aug 24, 2017 19:29:22 GMT
Matt Reeves, director of the upcoming “The Batman,” says the film won’t be a part of the DC Extended Universe that includes the Justice League and Wonder Woman, but rather a standalone Bat-story. Now, you may continue your trolling. You're adorable. Borderline retarded, but adorable none the less. www.thewrap.com/matt-reeves-batman-dc-extended-universe/link
Looks like he wasn’t trolling this time... |
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 25, 2017 0:29:32 GMT
So you think putting in the extra effort to show that it's all one world is bad, and they should pretend they all exist on their own like a good little reactionary. Just because DC was that lazy in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't move on and accept that Shared Universe's are a thing now. DC seems go a level beyond this by employing a Multiverse approach, which is kind of unique?
I know the Arrow/Flash/SuperGirl shows are super popular, but I find them on MCU-level annoying and childish and am very happy that they form their own shared sub-galaxy. Same with the animation and comics.
I am happy if not every new movie is part of an all-consuming shared universe approach but that there are alternative universes with differnet takes on Joker, Bats, Supes etc... hell we currently have different Flashes, Supes etc already.
And the great thing is that DC has so many nuanced characters: I want to see Detective Bats, Miller-killer Bats, TDK Bats and goofy Bats too, same with all types of Jokers. Marvel characters always stay the same, there is no artistic variation and reinterpretation, so the mono-universe approach is just fine for those.
DC is simply too big and varied to be stuffed in just one stale, stagnant and slow universe.
Multiverses are lazier than Shared Universes. And having one version of a character you have to stick to is harder work than randomly making AU versions because you're too uncreative to deal with the one version that exists. DC is just full of laziness. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 25, 2017 5:49:12 GMT
DC is simply too big and varied to be stuffed in just one stale, stagnant and slow universe.
MCU is just full of laziness.Fixed in accordance with facts and common sense. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 25, 2017 10:19:53 GMT
Shared Universes take more effort than Multiverses . And having one version of a character you have to stick to is harder work than lazily making different AU versions because you're too incompetent to stick to the actual character.
MCU is a pioneer. Fixed in accordance with facts and common sense. There. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 25, 2017 10:45:57 GMT
Multiverses take more effort than Shared Universes . MCU is a pioneer in following shared universes existing in film media since the 30s Monster Universes and that peaked in the StarTrek multiverse. MCU is a pioneer in convincing it's gullible fans that MCU is doing something new. There. There there, you are always very welcome...  |
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 25, 2017 11:31:07 GMT
There there, you are always very welcome... Sorry, nothing is terribly creative about saying "Okay, I don't want to deal with this character do I'm making an AU version of him to do whatever I want with"....it just makes you a lazy writer. Universal started the shared universe, but MCU has advanced it in ways no one else has. Star Trek laid some groundwork though. Of course, if DC had done things this way before Marvel you wouldn't be complaining. You'd be going on about how Marvel needs to drop having a Multiverse in favor of one Shared Universe. Hell, DC even agreed with me. Back in 85 when they did Crisis on Infinite Earths it was for the sole purpose of making one Shared Universe. Unfortunately they couldn't stick to their guns and go with it, mainly due to lazy writers. |
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