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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 25, 2017 2:23:03 GMT
Matt Reeves Clarifies Whether The Batman Solo Movie Fits Into The DCEU Once again, I was right. When all the dumb MCU fans here were jumping up and down celebrating thinking that The Batman movie wasn't going to be part of the DCEU, I explained to the dumb MCU fans that: What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU.And now, Reeves has confirmed that he was indeed saying what I wrote yesterday.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 25, 2017 10:23:36 GMT
What Reeves is saying is that he's too creatively bankrupt to think of a Batman story that could take place in a world of Superbeings while still focusing on Batman. Whereas Homecoming was able to do so with Spider-Man, Tony having a minor presence.
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Post by gromel on Aug 27, 2017 1:52:06 GMT
Minor? He effectively replaced Uncle Ben as THE father figure in Peter's life.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 27, 2017 4:27:44 GMT
Minor? He effectively replaced Uncle Ben as THE father figure in Peter's life. For this one film, he acted in a mentor role. And not a very good one. It was to serve as a counterpart to Toomes: Tony's a good guy but a crappy "dad" whereas Toomes is a bad guy but a good parent. They did mention Ben though, Peter says he didn't want May to know because she's "been through so much". That was a reference to Ben. They just didn't directly mention him because it's been done too often in the prior adaptations. They WILL reference him later, but wanted to do something different this time around. Besides, it isn't like Begins didn't do something similar with them making Ra's more of a "father" figure to Bruce than he was in the comics.
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Post by gromel on Aug 27, 2017 10:39:14 GMT
They did mention Ben though, Peter says he didn't want May to know because she's "been through so much". That was a reference to Ben. They just didn't directly mention him because it's been done too often in the prior adaptations. They WILL reference him later, but wanted to do something different this time around. Besides, it isn't like Begins didn't do something similar with them making Ra's more of a "father" figure to Bruce than he was in the comics. I get that but still it was barely a reference. Peter didn't feel like someone who recently lost family. But the kicker is, he did in Civil War. The reference to/presence of Ben was more felt there, though still not mentioning him by name. I figured he was clearly reluctant to tell Stark about such details immediately and they would just mention him in Homecoming. But they didn't. In Begins, Bruce had both Alfred and Ra's and his actual father. In Homecoming Peter pretty much only has Stark, (But Homecoming didn't suck, OP. Off base, but less off base than Man of Steel at any rate.)
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 27, 2017 12:06:33 GMT
They did mention Ben though, Peter says he didn't want May to know because she's "been through so much". That was a reference to Ben. They just didn't directly mention him because it's been done too often in the prior adaptations. They WILL reference him later, but wanted to do something different this time around. Besides, it isn't like Begins didn't do something similar with them making Ra's more of a "father" figure to Bruce than he was in the comics. I get that but still it was barely a reference. Peter didn't feel like someone who recently lost family. But the kicker is, he did in Civil War. The reference to/presence of Ben was more felt there, though still not mentioning him by name. I figured he was clearly reluctant to tell Stark about such details immediately and they would just mention him in Homecoming. But they didn't. In Begins, Bruce had both Alfred and Ra's and his actual father. In Homecoming Peter pretty much only has Stark, (But Homecoming didn't suck, OP. Off base, but less off base than Man of Steel at any rate.) They probably figured that since Ben has been done so much in the prior movies, they wanted to see if they could tell one where he's NOT ever-present in the story and still make a good story. Now that they've proven that, they can mention Ben in the next film. Tom Holland already said he'd like Ralph Macchio (The Karate Kid) to play him.
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