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Post by gljbradley on Feb 7, 2017 15:37:29 GMT
I agree. You should hear the way they speak about this mess. They sound thrilled about it like it's the coolest thing ever. I mean, really. Fucking idiots! At least this place is kind of cool. The Admins have said that aside from spamming they won't regulate as much so cussing is allowed. Bu just fucking wait, this will go down as one of this decade's most stupid moves on IMDb's side. Yeah, I hear people from other news sites cheering this on. The coldhearted bastards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 15:40:38 GMT
If they had of just moderated the damn site and stopped people posting those stupid PC threads about "Why isn't there any Mongolian etc etc people in this film that was made in 1955???" they would have found the boards to be a lot more civil. I think you might like to read what I posted here (across the boards) on the matter of forum 'moderation'. amazon and imdb just proved "tolerance" to the point of mass destruction and ruthless anihilation. I do find it rather odd that after so many years of PC threads and trolls in general that now that there is a conservative fight back they have decided to close the boards down. They seemed happy to tolerate certain views but not others. Something which is a huge problem on a lot of forums.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 7, 2017 16:18:37 GMT
Do you really think IMDb will be stupid enough to close the area that gets more traffic? I think they will do it. I also think that they will regret it. I see IMDb going under without some kind of user interaction feature.
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Post by j2 on Feb 7, 2017 17:01:16 GMT
I think they planned ahead. Two, maybe three moves ahead. They know that people are 'hooked'. But I think they may have overlooked one thing... So what are your thoughts? Monthly/Yearly subscriptions? A one off payment? If they go down that road I would probably pay a one off of $10-$20 but no way would I pay for a monthly subscription. I dunno I could be wrong, but my gut tells me they will bring the message boards back, but on a pay to use type thing so they make lots of $$$$$ ETA: upon reading what I wrote, I'm exactly the type of user they would target if they did do a pay to use scheme.... even though it should be provided for free like it always has been. *smacks own head* Sparky, this problem is a lot deeper than most people might think. I think it has very significant psychological implications. One example: Paying them from now on. Paying them for any kind of service after what they just did, is to act quite like the battered woman, who goes back to the abusive man for even more abuse, when in truth she doesn't really have to go there anymore, ever again. Except she does go back, of course, and it seems like she keeps going back for "more". I think they know this. Or it's like paying a thief who just stabbed you (in the back), so that he can be "kind" to you after hurting you, by taking you to the hospital. Or like paying the butcher after he butches your own children, so you can eat them. Most people can't see this simple truth because just like the battered wife, they have taken abuse for so long and in so many different ways, that now they can't see it for what it is when it shows up right in front of them. In fact, there are those who would defend it strongly and would actually even pay for it. Those amazon and imdb people are very very cunning individuals, and they proved to be remarkably ruthless. I'm almost sure they analyzed this 'angle' too (that's how they call it), or instead they had a team of psychology experts analyze it for them. I read that they thought about this/planned it very carefully since at least a year back, and it's obvious now that they don't seem to care about us.
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Post by j2 on Feb 7, 2017 17:07:59 GMT
Fucking idiots! At least this place is kind of cool. The Admins have said that aside from spamming they won't regulate as much so cussing is allowed. Bu just fucking wait, this will go down as one of this decade's most stupid moves on IMDb's side. Yeah, I hear people from other news sites cheering this on. The coldhearted bastards. I think those who cheer it are in the payroll, or they are heartless just like them.
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Post by j2 on Feb 7, 2017 17:09:26 GMT
I think you might like to read what I posted here (across the boards) on the matter of forum 'moderation'. amazon and imdb just proved "tolerance" to the point of mass destruction and ruthless anihilation. I do find it rather odd that after so many years of PC threads and trolls in general that now that there is a conservative fight back they have decided to close the boards down. They seemed happy to tolerate certain views but not others. Something which is a huge problem on a lot of forums. I think so too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 17:27:23 GMT
Do you really think IMDb will be stupid enough to close the area that gets more traffic? I think they will do it. I also think that they will regret it. I see IMDb going under without some kind of user interaction feature. 100% the message boards keep you coming back over and over. Once you have read up on a movie or show you are unlikely to go back as often, if at all. And even then I find Wikipedia more useful for general info about films anyway. In regards to the other chat about paying to use the site if they kept the boards up. No I wouldn't pay, not just because they have just shut them down on us but as I see it so many useless threads were allowed to be posted on that site. I'm not going to pay to read people attacking someone who dares to add something objective and critical to the discussion. I'm not going to pay to read SJW's find things to be outraged about in everything from war films to Disney. I'm not going to pay to read troll after troll post stupid comments.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 7, 2017 18:28:59 GMT
I think they will do it. I also think that they will regret it. I see IMDb going under without some kind of user interaction feature. 100% the message boards keep you coming back over and over. Once you have read up on a movie or show you are unlikely to go back as often, if at all. And even then I find Wikipedia more useful for general info about films anyway. In regards to the other chat about paying to use the site if they kept the boards up. No I wouldn't pay, not just because they have just shut them down on us but as I see it so many useless threads were allowed to be posted on that site. I'm not going to pay to read people attacking someone who dares to add something objective and critical to the discussion. I'm not going to pay to read SJW's find things to be outraged about in everything from war films to Disney. I'm not going to pay to read troll after troll post stupid comments. Yup. people will probably always go there to look information up, but will they stay? No. People might actually make an effort not to go there now, because they are angry.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 7, 2017 20:27:30 GMT
Do you really think IMDb will be stupid enough to close the area that gets more traffic? Yeah they're definitely going ahead with it but I think there is a reason why this has happened other than what they were telling us. They can't have been so little traffic, on the TWD boards there was somebody posting every couple of minutes.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 0:03:54 GMT
Do you really think IMDb will be stupid enough to close the area that gets more traffic? Yeah they're definitely going ahead with it but I think there is a reason why this has happened other than what they were telling us. They can't have been so little traffic, on the TWD boards there was somebody posting every couple of minutes. Exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 0:46:58 GMT
It's more than shooting yourself in the foot tho. With THAT many boards, I'm inclined to believe more than half the users go there JUST for the boards. I know I do go there mainly to see what the boards have to say about a particular movie or star. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks as if they are shutting down the boards in an effort to 'squeeze out' the uncontrolled views of the fans, while at the same time pushing these same people out in the direction of such dreck as FakeBook or Twttr. No one is so stupid as to deliberately shoot themselves in the foot, unless there was an ulterior motive.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 8, 2017 0:48:11 GMT
I think they planned ahead. Two, maybe three moves ahead. They know that people are 'hooked'. But I think they may have overlooked one thing... So what are your thoughts? Monthly/Yearly subscriptions? A one off payment? If they go down that road I would probably pay a one off of $10-$20 but no way would I pay for a monthly subscription. I dunno I could be wrong, but my gut tells me they will bring the message boards back, but on a pay to use type thing so they make lots of $$$$$ ETA: upon reading what I wrote, I'm exactly the type of user they would target if they did do a pay to use scheme.... even though it should be provided for free like it always has been. *smacks own head* I ain't paying SHIT to them when sites like this are popping out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 0:54:10 GMT
Take a look at something I posted elsewhere a while back, about an imdb ex-employee's post on reddit regarding what they're really about: Found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/5ruzwc/imdb_message_boards_shutting_down_effective/ Manhattan_Writer•2d This is no surprise whatsoever. I've worked at IMDb (the worst and most discouraging experience of my professional life ) and believe me, the company is a soulless, empty corporate shell that has one goal: to sell advertising. It's not about movies, TV, or being 'guardians of data' - everything is about making money. The entire site is setup to sell advertising, and movie data is simply a means to achieve that. End of story. The reason IMDb is getting rid of the message boards is simple: they can't be monetised. If IMDb could make money out of the boards, they'd be staying, but there's no cash in it for them, so they're getting axed. The sell-outs who run IMDb will have looked at the 'metrics' (a risible corporate buzzword the Data Team loves so much) and decided that traffic is not high enough for them to make any real money. It really is that simple. I've experienced first-hand the obsession with metrics, and making money (at the expense of customer satisfaction), and it really is pathetic to behold. No decision is made at IMDb without greed being factored into the equation, and believe me, they will also shut down certain data sections at some point if they get in the way of making money. Forget the fact that the site has compiled 20+ years worth of important data - if one of the sections can no longer be monetised effectively (Literature, for example), they'll just get rid of it, and dump the hard work of thousands of contributors without batting an eye. In financial terms, keeping the message boards live costs IMDb basically nothing, bar the human cost of maintenance, which - when considered in the context of the site's huge annual profit margin - is less than miniscule. Still, community cannot get in the way of making money, and trying to increase the site's earning by 5-10% every.single.year. There's no point complaining about it, making suggestions, or suggesting alternate, viable solutions - the hacks at IMDb don't give a toss. There's no money in it for them, so they're not interested. They'll fob you off with the usual hollow platitudes, but make no mistake, the IMDb that people love died years ago. Now, the site is just a shiny, corporate plaything, pimped out by Amazon for the purposes of making money, with greed - not customer focus - being its primary driving force. One final note: it probably burns IMDb that the majority (over one third) of their users come from China, the audience for which is far less valuable to advertisers than, say, the USA and the UK. Only about 5% of IMDb's users come from the UK, which is ironic considering the site originated in England. But, I digress - IMDb stopped having relevance years ago; Letterboxd is far superior. Wow. So, this means that we were all duped by IMDb for so long. I think it's time for everyone who's been a member on there to deactivate their accounts and never return. I partially disagree here. Yes, it is about making money, but they could easily monetize the boards by making people subscribe for $$, adding ads, or whatever works along those lines.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 1:00:56 GMT
100% the message boards keep you coming back over and over. Once you have read up on a movie or show you are unlikely to go back as often, if at all. And even then I find Wikipedia more useful for general info about films anyway. In regards to the other chat about paying to use the site if they kept the boards up. No I wouldn't pay, not just because they have just shut them down on us but as I see it so many useless threads were allowed to be posted on that site. I'm not going to pay to read people attacking someone who dares to add something objective and critical to the discussion. I'm not going to pay to read SJW's find things to be outraged about in everything from war films to Disney. I'm not going to pay to read troll after troll post stupid comments. Yup. people will probably always go there to look information up, but will they stay? No. People might actually make an effort not to go there now, because they are angry. Agree. I made it my business to avoid anything amazon or imdb from now on, unless I have to use it out of need or for practical reasons.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 1:03:45 GMT
It's more than shooting yourself in the foot tho. With THAT many boards, I'm inclined to believe more than half the users go there JUST for the boards. I know I do go there mainly to see what the boards have to say about a particular movie or star. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks as if they are shutting down the boards in an effort to 'squeeze out' the uncontrolled views of the fans, while at the same time pushing these same people out in the direction of such dreck as FakeBook or Twttr. No one is so stupid as to deliberately shoot themselves in the foot, unless there was an ulterior motive. Don't underestimate greed. Anyway, I think they have a plan (with this about the boards).
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 1:05:16 GMT
So what are your thoughts? Monthly/Yearly subscriptions? A one off payment? If they go down that road I would probably pay a one off of $10-$20 but no way would I pay for a monthly subscription. I dunno I could be wrong, but my gut tells me they will bring the message boards back, but on a pay to use type thing so they make lots of $$$$$ ETA: upon reading what I wrote, I'm exactly the type of user they would target if they did do a pay to use scheme.... even though it should be provided for free like it always has been. *smacks own head* I ain't paying SHIT to them when sites like this are popping out. I wouldn't pay them on principle.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 1:07:50 GMT
Wow. So, this means that we were all duped by IMDb for so long. I think it's time for everyone who's been a member on there to deactivate their accounts and never return. I partially disagree here. Yes, it is about making money, but they could easily monetize the boards by making people subscribe for $$, adding ads, or whatever works along those lines. There's an agenda, that's a fact.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 8, 2017 1:13:01 GMT
I ain't paying SHIT to them when sites like this are popping out. I wouldn't pay them on principle. Yep... not a fucking dime.
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Post by Avenging Angel on Feb 8, 2017 1:24:35 GMT
IMDB is one of the few places where everyone from all over the world can post and get media information on the dime. I mean, they have to know how much actual bank in people revenue they are losing. The reason why their site stands period above Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes is their traffic. How do they make money if they don't get the hits? It's a joke for them to think this a good idea. People will always wise up and create something better. They should have thought of that before they closed the best feature on their site.
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Post by j2 on Feb 8, 2017 1:34:01 GMT
IMDB is one of the few places where everyone from all over the world can post and get media information on the dime. I mean, they have to know how much actual bank in people revenue they are losing. The reason why their site stands period above Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes is their traffic. How do they make money if they don't get the hits? It's a joke for them to think this a good idea. People will always wise up and create something better. They should have thought of that before they closed the best feature on their site. "IMDB is one of the few places where everyone from all over the world USED TO post and get media information on the dime."
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