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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 23:46:06 GMT
Major theme seems to be that the teenagers in the film are not really the sterotypes their classmates believe them to be...but then they turn out to be the 'stereotypes' that we've seen in other teen movies.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 30, 2017 23:50:19 GMT
Major theme seems to be that the teenagers in the film are not really the sterotypes their classmates believe them to be...but then they turn out to be the 'stereotypes' that we've seen in other teen movies. Well, would these happen to be teen movies that came out after Breakfast Club and were thus probably trying to imitate it? I think the revelations about the characters were fairly original at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 23:52:03 GMT
Perhaps you should post about something you do like for once.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 0:16:58 GMT
Perhaps you should post about something you do like for once. But I haven't gotten around to ghostbusters yet, and believe me i'll have some strong opinions on That! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 0:45:49 GMT
Major theme seems to be that the teenagers in the film are not really the sterotypes their classmates believe them to be...but then they turn out to be the 'stereotypes' that we've seen in other teen movies.
YOu know what I mean? I still think it's an ok film though. Well, I think it's the best Teen movie ever |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 31, 2017 1:22:45 GMT
I think they're both the stereotypes & not at the same time... meaning yeah, there's jocks, nerds, punks, princesses, & loners... they are all those except they're each much deeper than surface perceptions, including every single person's own individuality beneath.
Just as there's a stereotypical principal & janitor too... with their own depths beneath their perceived roles.
I dunno, the f'n movie kills, A+ my #36 all time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 16:46:43 GMT
I think they're both the stereotypes & not at the same time... meaning yeah, there's jocks, nerds, punks, princesses, & loners... they are all those except they're each much deeper than surface perceptions, including every single person's own individuality beneath. Just as there's a stereotypical principal & janitor too... with their own depths beneath their perceived roles. I dunno, the f'n movie kills, A+ my #36 all time. Exactly, that is the point of the film. The school puts us into stereotypes and we are defined by our groups, therefore we act out the part in public with our friends. The "Breakfast Club" allows them to shed their masks and show their true layers. The group therapy session scenes really allows them bare all and see what is underneath all the superficial garbage. They aren't typical stereotypes, they are individuals with special qualities that define them, not a 'title' or 'group'. In the end, they realize they are all the same on some level, just kids trying to survive school, friends, parents, social pressures, etc... Claire makes it clear she knows when they go back to school on Monday they won't be friends. She's right, they will succumb to the peer pressure and social stigmas again. |
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Post by Dayodead on Aug 31, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
It's an ok film...Usual John Hughes "Rich kids problems" movie...(Yea, I know "Bender" is poor..the others are not...)...The main issue is Nelson is too old for the part...He was 25 when they shot this and looks it...Should have gone with Charlie Sheen or John Cusack, who both read for the part...
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Post by drystyx on Aug 31, 2017 19:10:08 GMT
You're being too generous.
Like you say, the movie spends all that time to make these kids into ridiculous stereotypes. It does the exact opposite of what a good script would do.
This problem is quite obviously due to the extremist divisive and hateful point of view. It's obviously told from the point of view of the tall boy and the plain girl who somehow seems to eventually romance him. The others are just pitted there in the hate filled judgmental point of view of those two. The tall boy may as well be from Krypton the way it's shown, if it was set in DC comics, and the other boys would be "orcs" if it was set in Middle Earth.
There's no way to avoid seeing this heavy handed stereotyping and point of view.
Just a ridiculous pile of crap, but what really is pathetic is that it wastes such good music and choreography for a one dimensional, spoiled brat, hate filled screenplay.
THE BREAKFAST CLUB 1/10
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 9, 2018 3:15:01 GMT
The makeover scene was criminal. There was nothing wrong with Allison.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Oct 9, 2018 3:28:58 GMT
Perhaps you should post about something you do like for once. But I haven't gotten around to ghostbusters yet, and believe me i'll have some strong opinions on That! I am quivering with anticipation |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 9, 2018 13:07:26 GMT
It's one of my two least favorite reasonably respected films, a smug self-important circle-jerk.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 9, 2018 15:19:01 GMT
It's one of my two least favorite reasonably respected films, a smug self-important circle-jerk.  |
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 9, 2018 17:52:36 GMT
This is an old thread but I have to agree. Out of all the Hughes films this is the one I liked the least. I really, really hate the Emilio Estevez screaming scene where he shatters the glass. I can't believe Criterion put this out recently. It ranks up there with their major misstep of Armageddon.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 9, 2018 21:53:01 GMT
It's one of my two least favorite reasonably respected films, a smug self-important circle-jerk. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 22:37:59 GMT
In a sense they are all victims of the group mentality of High school. When they are together in detention they shed those persona's and be themselves with each other. But as one of the characters says on Monday they will be all back to ignoring each other again.
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 9, 2018 23:23:57 GMT
John Hughes specialized in the petty problems of spoiled rotten rich kids. Then in this movie, he includes a couple of kids with real problems, most notably the wrong-side-of-the-tracks abused kid, Bender. So what does he do but equate Bender's pain with the
agony that Andrew suffers after he assaults a kid. No; Andrew doesn't deserve sympathy for being an entitled bully who gets away with committing such a sick stunt. And I agree with the poster who complained about Allison's makeover; I liked (and identified the most with) her refreshingly weird persona, and making her conform to some bland carbon copy of Molly Ringworm's friends, just to meet with her and Andrew's approval, spoiled the best character among all the kids. Erasing her outcast personality was a sad message.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 0:11:50 GMT
John Hughes specialized in the petty problems of spoiled rotten rich kids. Then in this movie, he includes a couple of kids with real problems, most notably the wrong-side-of-the-tracks abused kid, Bender. So what does he do but equate Bender's pain with the agony that Andrew suffers after he assaults a kid. No; Andrew doesn't deserve sympathy for being an entitled bully who gets away with committing such a sick stunt. And I agree with the poster who complained about Allison's makeover; I liked (and identified the most with) her refreshingly weird persona, and making her conform to some bland carbon copy of Molly Ringworm's friends, just to meet with her and Andrew's approval, spoiled the best character among all the kids. Erasing her outcast personality was a sad message. I thought she looked better as the Goth type as well. When she tried to be like Molly she looked rather ordinary to me. Who she was trying to appeal to wasn't worth changing for either. It's an odd film as it tries to be feel good with serious. The serious stuff doesn't really work too well as it is glossed over in standard 80's fashion. |
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Post by Harmless elf on Oct 10, 2018 0:40:59 GMT
À movie about a bunch of High School students sitting around and talking about their problems is not my kind of movie.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Oct 10, 2018 1:52:43 GMT
They learn to deal with what they’ve become while also enjoying the little things in life. Plus they all become friends in the end.
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