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Post by Vegas on Aug 31, 2017 12:41:44 GMT
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 31, 2017 13:04:15 GMT
I disagree with anyone being singled out for censorship. Lots of posters have been far more contentious, rude to other posters and engaged in flame wars; why not restrict their activity? thefleetsin keeps to himself, posts his statements about the decline of civilization due to religion and politics, and if you don't like what he posts, you can put him on ignore. I have about 11 posters on ignore and it works quite well for me. Let me decide who I want to interact with and who I don't.
Maybe Admin has the right to censor, since it is a private forum. But right now the public forum shows us a president who can lie outright and repeatedly, who clearly wants to restrict freedom of speech and the free press, and in that context... I don't like dictatorships.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 31, 2017 13:12:46 GMT
I disagree with anyone being singled out for censorship. Lots of posters have been far more contentious, rude to other posters and engaged in flame wars; why not restrict their activity? thefleetsin keeps to himself, posts his statements about the decline of civilization due to religion and politics, and if you don't like what he posts, you can put him on ignore. I have about 11 posters on ignore and it works quite well for me. Let me decide who I want to interact with and who I don't. Maybe Admin has the right to censor, since it is a private forum. But right now the public forum shows us a president who can lie outright and repeatedly, who clearly wants to restrict freedom of speech and the free press, and in that context... I don't like dictatorships. Fleet has not been "censored" to give his views or write his poems. He can write as many poems as he wants. He can write whatever he wants. As a matter of fact the action against fleet has nothing to do with political or religious (or anti-religious) nature of his poetry. So it is not an issue of "censorship". It is saddening to see you lose objectivity and react to the issue by bringing the issue of censorship when it is not the case.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 14:33:21 GMT
I disagree with anyone being singled out for censorship. Lots of posters have been far more contentious, rude to other posters and engaged in flame wars; why not restrict their activity? thefleetsin keeps to himself, posts his statements about the decline of civilization due to religion and politics, and if you don't like what he posts, you can put him on ignore. I have about 11 posters on ignore and it works quite well for me. Let me decide who I want to interact with and who I don't. Maybe Admin has the right to censor, since it is a private forum. But right now the public forum shows us a president who can lie outright and repeatedly, who clearly wants to restrict freedom of speech and the free press, and in that context... I don't like dictatorships. i suppose i can go back to my original method of writing/posting. where i would write the poem in direct response to a post by others, having the poem within their original post. of course, at the time, this caused posters like cine to have what amounted to modern day cardiac arrest. so i graciously modified my posting and put each poem in its own separate post. oh the things one does to placate the pandering's of the chronically maladjusted. the truly strange thing is -and you mention it in your post- those who scream the loudest supposedly have me on ignore. an ignore i might add that i fully encourage them to go on.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 31, 2017 15:16:17 GMT
I disagree with anyone being singled out for censorship. Lots of posters have been far more contentious, rude to other posters and engaged in flame wars; why not restrict their activity? thefleetsin keeps to himself, posts his statements about the decline of civilization due to religion and politics, and if you don't like what he posts, you can put him on ignore. I have about 11 posters on ignore and it works quite well for me. Let me decide who I want to interact with and who I don't. Maybe Admin has the right to censor, since it is a private forum. But right now the public forum shows us a president who can lie outright and repeatedly, who clearly wants to restrict freedom of speech and the free press, and in that context... I don't like dictatorships. Fleet has not been "censored" to give his views or write his poems. He can write as many poems as he wants. He can write whatever he wants. As a matter of fact the action against fleet has nothing to do with political or religious (or anti-religious) nature of his poetry. So it is not an issue of "censorship". It is saddening to see you lose objectivity and react to the issue by bringing the issue of censorship when it is not the case. So then what does it have to do with?I think it is saddening to read a few of the things you posted in reference to this: 1. thefleetsin is not racist. 2. you included another poster - presumably maya - in your comments. No action was taken against her. 3. other posters have been far more "out there", posting conspiracy theories, creating endless pages of flame wars and, yes, making racist statements - why haven't they been restricted to one thread? 4. what has 'shame' and 'sense of duty' got to do with it?
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 15:25:56 GMT
Fleet has not been "censored" to give his views or write his poems. He can write as many poems as he wants. He can write whatever he wants. As a matter of fact the action against fleet has nothing to do with political or religious (or anti-religious) nature of his poetry. So it is not an issue of "censorship". It is saddening to see you lose objectivity and react to the issue by bringing the issue of censorship when it is not the case. So then what does it have to do with?I think it is saddening to read a few of the things you posted in reference to this: 1. thefleetsin is not racist. 2. you included another poster - presumably maya - in your comments. No action was taken against her. 3. other posters have been far more "out there", posting conspiracy theories, creating endless pages of flame wars and, yes, making racist statements - why haven't they been restricted to one thread? 4. what has 'shame' and 'sense of duty' got to do with it? self-righteousness is a slimy snake on a slippery slope. and it affords believers the divine right to castigate those they feel are living outside the parameters of their divine calling. and the flame wars alone have generated thousands of posts filled with all manner of bile and mal-contention. it is not for me to judge the blind, only to document what they fumble into. as for duty; why, i have been writing since i was a boy of seven. and from that very first glimpse into the eyes of a classmate, i have been in constant heaven. for it is within the eyes that the foundations of all creativity arise.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 31, 2017 15:27:30 GMT
Fleet has not been "censored" to give his views or write his poems. He can write as many poems as he wants. He can write whatever he wants. As a matter of fact the action against fleet has nothing to do with political or religious (or anti-religious) nature of his poetry. So it is not an issue of "censorship". It is saddening to see you lose objectivity and react to the issue by bringing the issue of censorship when it is not the case. So then what does it have to do with?I think it is saddening to read a few of the things you posted in reference to this: 1. thefleetsin is not racist. 2. you included another poster - presumably maya - in your comments. No action was taken against her. 3. other posters have been far more "out there", posting conspiracy theories, creating endless pages of flame wars and, yes, making racist statements - why haven't they been restricted to one thread? 4. what has 'shame' and 'sense of duty' got to do with it? Yes, he is racist. He has frequently used words such as "nigger" and been called on it. The restriction on fleetsin's threads was not a result of him being racist. That was my post to Erjen regarding whether Fleetsin is appreciated by non-religious people or not. Why don't you ask one of the posters you follow - cinemachinery - regarding whether fleet is a bigot or a racist or not? and Please do not use large fonts. I can read what you write even without those large fonts. It's akin to shouting. The sense of duty is to participate on board with considerations for all. If you fill the board by your own threads (which also go reply less) then it decreases the forum experience for many people and forces away many potential new comers as well as existing posters. Here is the number of replies Fleet's threads receive. IMDB2.freeforums.net/user/1197/recent_threads?page=3His poem threads have received something like 0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0....replies. yes, not only they are OT but also don't add much to progress discussions here.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 15:34:50 GMT
i would venture to say that i have used the word 'nigger' perhaps three times in over 25,000 poems. now you may insist that this is three times too much; where i see all words as having value when it comes to the expression of thought. and as i have stated several times in the past, my poems need not be responded to.
for this is the portal which dorian first opened and it is i who was there.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 31, 2017 15:39:13 GMT
i would venture to say that i have used the word 'nigger' perhaps three times in over 25,000 poems. now you may insist that this is three times too much; where i see all words as having value when it comes to the expression of thought. and as i have stated several times in the past, my poems need not be responded to. for this is the portal which dorian first opened and it is i who was there. except some other times you have used misogynist words and sometimes something else. You are a bigot, a misogynist, a racist and many other things. Your being a poet doesn't permit you endless bigotry.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 15:44:57 GMT
i would venture to say that i have used the word 'nigger' perhaps three times in over 25,000 poems. now you may insist that this is three times too much; where i see all words as having value when it comes to the expression of thought. and as i have stated several times in the past, my poems need not be responded to. for this is the portal which dorian first opened and it is i who was there. except some other times you have used misogynist words and sometimes something else. You are a bigot, a misogynist, a racist and many other things. Your being a poet doesn't permit you endless bigotry. why yes, many have come here. under many guises and with agendas plentiful. all to be held accountable under my microscope. shall we dance?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 31, 2017 15:47:34 GMT
Sorry, Vegas. I can't vote because you don't have a box to check for "Don't give a damn." 
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 31, 2017 16:03:57 GMT
So then what does it have to do with?I think it is saddening to read a few of the things you posted in reference to this: 1. thefleetsin is not racist. 2. you included another poster - presumably maya - in your comments. No action was taken against her. 3. other posters have been far more "out there", posting conspiracy theories, creating endless pages of flame wars and, yes, making racist statements - why haven't they been restricted to one thread? 4. what has 'shame' and 'sense of duty' got to do with it? Yes, he is racist. He has frequently used words such as "nigger" and been called on it. The restriction on fleetsin's post was not a result of him being racist. That was my post to Erjen regarding whether Fleetsin is appreciated by non-religious people or not. Why don't you ask one of the posters you follow - cinemachinery - regarding whether fleet is a bigot or a racist or not? and Please do not use large fonts. I can read what you write even without those large fonts. It's akin to shouting. The sense of duty is to participate on board with considerations for all. If you fill the board by your own threads (which also go reply less) then it decreases the forum experience for many people and forces away many potential new comers as well as existing posters. Here is the number of replies Fleet's threads receive. IMDB2.freeforums.net/user/1197/recent_threads?page=3His poem threads have received something like 0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0....replies. yes, not only they are OT but also don't add much to progress discussions here. I have already spoken to Cine - who admits he doesn't like and rarely reads fleet's posts, but it is not because he thinks he is a bigot or racist. Oh, and look, you just used the 'n' word. I will use large fonts if I want to. I am shouting. And it is not prohibited in the rules.They are on-topic - about religion, albeit the dark side - and since when did getting responses have anything to do with being allowed to post? I've started threads that haven't received any replies, so have others. And if you are so concerned about there being quality posts on this board for newcomers to respond to, why don't you post more on this board? Or is GoT more important? Religion and politics is in the REAL world, and affects REAL people. Fleetsin addresses the inequities he sees in this world and it isn't pretty. One last point; sometimes I don't completely understand his poetry, but I chalk that up to being a white heterosexual female who has spent a mere fraction of her life associating with gay male activists. Since you come from a completely different culture of origin, might you be unable, too, to understand all the nuances of his posts?
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Post by phludowin on Aug 31, 2017 16:09:54 GMT
i suppose i can go back to my original method of writing/posting. where i would write the poem in direct response to a post by others, having the poem within their original thread. This would be a good idea IMO. I didn't object to your posting "poetry"; I objected to the fact that it clogged the board and made other threads harder to find. But I have noticed that you have hardly posted on your poetry thread since it was created; so maybe you really were more interested in spamming than in sharing poetry. Lies are worse than bad poems.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 31, 2017 16:13:06 GMT
Yes, he is racist. He has frequently used words such as "nigger" and been called on it. The restriction on fleetsin's post was not a result of him being racist. That was my post to Erjen regarding whether Fleetsin is appreciated by non-religious people or not. Why don't you ask one of the posters you follow - cinemachinery - regarding whether fleet is a bigot or a racist or not? and Please do not use large fonts. I can read what you write even without those large fonts. It's akin to shouting. The sense of duty is to participate on board with considerations for all. If you fill the board by your own threads (which also go reply less) then it decreases the forum experience for many people and forces away many potential new comers as well as existing posters. Here is the number of replies Fleet's threads receive. IMDB2.freeforums.net/user/1197/recent_threads?page=3His poem threads have received something like 0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0....replies. yes, not only they are OT but also don't add much to progress discussions here. I have already spoken to Cine - who admits he doesn't like and rarely reads fleet's posts, but it is not because he thinks he is a bigot or racist. I will use large fonts if I want to. I am shouting. And it is not prohibited in the rules.They are on-topic - about religion, albeit the dark side - and when did getting responses have anything to do with being allowed to post? I've started threads that haven't received any replies, so have others. And if you are so concerned about there being quality posts on this board for newcomers to respond to, why don't you post more on this board? Or is GoT more important? Religion and politics is in the REAL world, and affects REAL people. Fleetsin addresses the inequities he sees in this world and it isn't pretty. One last point; sometimes I don't completely understand his poetry, but I chalk that up to being a white heterosexual female who has spent a mere fraction of her life associating with gay male activists. Since you come from a completely different culture of origin, might you be unable, too, to understand all the nuances of his posts? Then you have completely misunderstood Cine. Because Cine has called out Fleet's bigotry on many occasions. One of his recent posts said: Yes, You can continue to use large fonts. It was just a request by me. You are free to ignore that. You haven't started that amount of threads as Fleetsin has and you do in fact receive replies because you start good threads. Once again, it is the sheer high number of threads of fleet that is a problem (and how they clog the board and fail to progress discussions). I do understand enough of his posts to know him. I am a bit glad that he has recently curtailed on his calling out women as being whores.
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Post by Vegas on Aug 31, 2017 16:16:12 GMT
Yes, he is racist. He has frequently used words such as "nigger" and been called on it. What?.... You've never listened to hip-hop? I mean... technically... You just used the word. 
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 31, 2017 16:17:24 GMT
i suppose i can go back to my original method of writing/posting. where i would write the poem in direct response to a post by others, having the poem within their original thread. This would be a good idea IMO. I didn't object to your posting "poetry"; I objected to the fact that it clogged the board and made other threads harder to find. But I have noticed that you have hardly posted on your poetry thread since it was created; so maybe you really were more interested in spamming than in sharing poetry. Lies are worse than bad poems. Perhaps if you had been raked over the coals for the last few days, you, too, would be less likely to post something new.
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Aug 31, 2017 16:20:11 GMT
Catman likes Fleet's poems even if he doesn't always say so.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 16:28:42 GMT
Catman likes Fleet's poems even if he doesn't always say so. oh the irony here is just too good to pass up! LOLOL for the only thing in the world i am allergic to are cats!!
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Aug 31, 2017 16:29:42 GMT
Catman likes Fleet's poems even if he doesn't always say so. oh the irony here is just too good to pass up! LOLOL for the only thing in the world i am allergic to are cats!! You can take medications or get those desensitizing shots.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 31, 2017 16:32:25 GMT
i admire them from afar. and i rarely take any medications. apart from my morning coffee and the occasional beer/cocktail.
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