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Post by cupcakes on Sept 9, 2017 22:30:27 GMT
tpfkar Stalinism and the other megalomaniac-isms suppressed any opposition, of course. But the guilt-ridden do need something to cower under, so you just double down and worship your mortal beasts as you do the Grand Warlock. What it opens the mind to is attacking those that do not conform to the arbitrary dogma, via command. It shows your spittly collapse, desperately flailing for anything.  And of course you feel free to post nonsense in the support of your pernicious con group. I however am against tyrants whether they wear dresses or military tunics, or anything else, and certainly not in favor of sacrificing children in the cynical effort to prop a debauched and repressive organization.
I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.If that were the case, then how come in Communist countries, they chose to attack those that chose to "conform to said arbitrary dogma....?" When upended you parry with bewildering babble. I like it! Well, we do know how you rank posters.  And sure, accurately describing criminal organizations that carry out bloody exterminations and centuries of inquisitions and serve kids to their ecclesiastics for consumption, as well their fanatical supporters is the kind of talking that "eventually leads up to a tyrannical system such as Communism", why not! Millennia of subverting education does have an effect after all.
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Post by clusium on Sept 9, 2017 23:13:31 GMT
tpfkar If that were the case, then how come in Communist countries, they chose to attack those that chose to "conform to said arbitrary dogma....?" When upended you parry with bewildering babble. I like it! Well, we do know how you rank posters. And sure, accurately describing criminal organizations that carry out bloody exterminations and centuries of inquisitions and serve kids to their ecclesiastics for consumption, as well their fanatical supporters is the kind of talking that "eventually leads up to a tyrannical system such as Communism", why not! Millennia of subverting education does have an effect after all.
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorAbsolutely. Because when one has been posting on a particular forum for a couple of years, one gets a hang of how how the posters on said forum work. Yeah, millennia of subverting education does indeed have an effect, doesn't it? After all, how else can one explain the fact that you do not seem to be aware that the Catholic Church has not had the Spanish Inquisition for about 500 years? Yet it still has managed to continue to endure? Radical, eh...?  |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 9, 2017 23:39:03 GMT
tpfkar When upended you parry with bewildering babble. I like it! Well, we do know how you rank posters. And sure, accurately describing criminal organizations that carry out bloody exterminations and centuries of inquisitions and serve kids to their ecclesiastics for consumption, as well their fanatical supporters is the kind of talking that "eventually leads up to a tyrannical system such as Communism", why not! Millennia of subverting education does have an effect after all. Absolutely. Because when one has been posting on a particular forum for a couple of years, one gets a hang of how how the posters on said forum work. Yeah, millennia of subverting education does indeed have an effect, doesn't it? After all, how else can one explain the fact that you do not seem to be aware that the Catholic Church has not had the Spanish Inquisition for about 500 years? Yet it still has managed to continue to endure? Radical, eh...? And fart it out in a fit-puddle like it means something when one's insipid apologetic bullsh!t is obvious.  1834 wasn't exactly 500 years ago even through Catholic education blood-red lenses, and "inquisitions" have been happening throughout whenever they had power, including the Spanish Inquisition. I do like your measure though, 'endure".  How have the numbers of the priesthood/nunneries/orphans available to bury in onsite sewers been going now?  At least the grotesquely large cache of extorted wealth is still secure!
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 2:56:41 GMT
Absolutely. Because when one has been posting on a particular forum for a couple of years, one gets a hang of how how the posters on said forum work. Yeah, millennia of subverting education does indeed have an effect, doesn't it? After all, how else can one explain the fact that you do not seem to be aware that the Catholic Church has not had the Spanish Inquisition for about 500 years? Yet it still has managed to continue to endure? Radical, eh...? And fart it out in a fit-puddle like it means something when one's insipid apologetic bullsh!t is obvious. 1834 wasn't exactly 500 years ago even through Catholic education blood-red lenses, and "inquisitions" have been happening throughout whenever they had power, including the Spanish Inquisition. I do like your measure though, 'endure". How have the numbers of the priesthood/nunneries/orphans available to bury in onsite sewers been going now? At least the grotesquely large cache of extorted wealth is still secure!
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorIts not exactly the 20th Century either, like Stalinist Russia either, where the ATHEISTIC Communist regime murdered millions of Christians & Jews for practicing their faith. Oh, in case you should ever need a healthy kidney, but, your local hospital has run out from people VOLUNTARILY donating, don't worry; the Communist Government in China has PLENTY which they took from executed prisoners, who were convicted for practicing their Falun Gong faith. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 3:37:20 GMT
tpfkar And fart it out in a fit-puddle like it means something when one's insipid apologetic bullsh!t is obvious. 1834 wasn't exactly 500 years ago even through Catholic education blood-red lenses, and "inquisitions" have been happening throughout whenever they had power, including the Spanish Inquisition. I do like your measure though, 'endure". How have the numbers of the priesthood/nunneries/orphans available to bury in onsite sewers been going now? At least the grotesquely large cache of extorted wealth is still secure!
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorIts not exactly the 20th Century either, like Stalinist Russia either, where the ATHEISTIC Communist regime murdered millions of Christians & Jews for practicing their faith. Oh, in case you should ever need a healthy kidney, but, your local hospital has run out from people VOLUNTARILY donating, don't worry; the Communist Government in China has PLENTY which they took from executed prisoners, who were convicted for practicing their Falun Gong faith. 500 years is definitely in line with Catholic convenient blurry precision. Not to mention your sad purposeful attempted distraction to only the Spanish Inquisition. And bold caps italic reeally makes your blasphemy/criminal/brutality apologetic (non)-case for you. 
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 5:16:13 GMT
tpfkar Its not exactly the 20th Century either, like Stalinist Russia either, where the ATHEISTIC Communist regime murdered millions of Christians & Jews for practicing their faith. Oh, in case you should ever need a healthy kidney, but, your local hospital has run out from people VOLUNTARILY donating, don't worry; the Communist Government in China has PLENTY which they took from executed prisoners, who were convicted for practicing their Falun Gong faith. 500 years is definitely in line with Catholic convenient blurry precision. Not to mention your sad purposeful attempted distraction to only the Spanish Inquisition. And bold caps italic reeally makes your blasphemy/criminal/brutality apologetic (non)-case for you.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.What was so purposeful about that??? Every time anti-theist atheists always bring up the bad stuff about the Church, they ALWAYS bring up the Spanish Inquisition. Of course I used bold or italics, when I am making a case. That is what they are there for.  |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 8:02:57 GMT
What was so purposeful about that??? Every time anti-theist atheists always bring up the bad stuff about the Church, they ALWAYS bring up the Spanish Inquisition. Nope, as typical, you guys are shameless liars throughout. Only way you can type anything in response to the horrors you prop up and defend. You brought up the Spanish Inquisition. What they are there for is for you to lie to try to distract from your ENTHUSIASTIC support of bestiality and immorality.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 10:29:54 GMT
tpfkar "Atheism" does absolutely nothing but scoff at the various fantasy delusions others try to use to retard and repress, whether of brutal and rapacious gods, premieres, popes or other maniacs. And of course each of the various oppressing coteries see their counterparts as threats to their garnering and holding of power and so when able to they slaughter each other. What would-be "protestants" were brutally crushed and only started making a comeback with Martin Luther when faced with the enduring tentacled corruption that was Catholicism. And of course I know what a blasphemy church is. One just has to examine the archetype, the Catholic Church.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.When atheism is in power, it oppresses people of faith in exactly the same way that you just describe: There's no such thing as "atheism in power". Atheism is not a doctrine. That lies at the feet of communism, not atheism. Generally, the persecution of theists by political systems happens not because the system is too rational - nobody could ever accuse Stalin or Hitler or Mao of being too rational. Rather it's because those people and the political doctrines they represented were essentially religions themselves. Stalin's Russia did have a god - Stalin. They attack theism because it's competition, not because of any real atheist or rational leanings. |
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 11:39:36 GMT
What was so purposeful about that??? Every time anti-theist atheists always bring up the bad stuff about the Church, they ALWAYS bring up the Spanish Inquisition. Nope, as typical, you guys are shameless liars throughout. Only way you can type anything in response to the horrors you prop up and defend. You brought up the Spanish Inquisition. What they are there for is for you to lie to try to distract from your ENTHUSIASTIC support of bestiality and immorality.
Vatican puts journalists on trialLied about what??? Anti-theist atheists DO always bring up the Spanish Inquisition. What enthusiastic support for bestiality & immortality? Now who is the shameless liar here?!?!?! |
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 11:43:53 GMT
When atheism is in power, it oppresses people of faith in exactly the same way that you just describe: There's no such thing as "atheism in power". Atheism is not a doctrine. That lies at the feet of communism, not atheism. Generally, the persecution of theists by political systems happens not because the system is too rational - nobody could ever accuse Stalin or Hitler or Mao of being too rational. Rather it's because those people and the political doctrines they represented were essentially religions themselves. Stalin's Russia did have a god - Stalin. They attack theism because it's competition, not because of any real atheist or rational leanings. It doesn't matter that atheism is not a doctrine. Atheism is a belief that there is no God or gods, & Communism is an atheistic ideology, which stamps out religion, in states where it is in power. Likewise, Nazi Germany had a god too - Hitler. Communist & Fascist countries are never democratic, because if one leader stamps out religious belief & practices, another leader could restore it, should he/she be elected in. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 10, 2017 11:52:41 GMT
... There's no such thing as "atheism in power". Atheism is not a doctrine. Cold doesn't exist. Cold is merely the absence of heat. Nevertheless, so called "cold" can do serious damage. You seem to think that atheism is somehow religiously and politically detached. The "religion" with the most military history is Christianity which is not so much a religion as it is more atheist than people who call themselves atheists. You seem to think that atheists are more scientific and logical than anyone in any religion. That is just plain not true. You don't get to take credit for science and logic just because you happen to be artless. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:38:03 GMT
It doesn't matter that atheism is not a doctrine. Atheism is a belief that there is no God or gods No, it is not. Yes, communism is an atheistic ideology. So is capitalism. And democracy. And libertarianism. And anarchism. Communism doesn't stamp out religion (to the extent that it does) because it is atheistic, any more than capitalism or democracy do. It stamps it out because it is a dogmatic ideology, and as such the dogmatic ideology of religion is competition. Indeed. Both communism and fascism are systems based on dogmatic ideologies; they stamp out anything that is a threat to their ideology. Which is exactly what religions have frequently done, when they have the power to do so. And for exactly the same reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:40:41 GMT
You seem to think that atheism is somehow religiously and politically detached. Yes, it most certainly is. Atheism carries absolutely no political connotations whatsoever. I know you like to think that you can make up your own definitions of words, but in reality you can't. No, I don't seem to think that. That's merely a comforting lie that you've convinced yourself of. |
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Post by phludowin on Sept 10, 2017 13:04:16 GMT
Lied about what??? Anti-theist atheists DO always bring up the Spanish Inquisition. YOU brought the Spanish Inquisition up on this thread. Nobody else. Are you an anti-theist atheist? |
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 16:15:57 GMT
It doesn't matter that atheism is not a doctrine. Atheism is a belief that there is no God or gods No, it is not. Yes, communism is an atheistic ideology. So is capitalism. And democracy. And libertarianism. And anarchism. Communism doesn't stamp out religion (to the extent that it does) because it is atheistic, any more than capitalism or democracy do. It stamps it out because it is a dogmatic ideology, and as such the dogmatic ideology of religion is competition. Indeed. Both communism and fascism are systems based on dogmatic ideologies; they stamp out anything that is a threat to their ideology. Which is exactly what religions have frequently done, when they have the power to do so. And for exactly the same reasons. With democracy, you have a choice as to whether you want your Government to rule by religious doctrine or not. With Communism you do not have that choice, because there is Freedom of Religion; no separation of Church & State; nothing. Only a despotic Government. The fact that religions have done exactly the same thing, when they were in power, only goes to show, people will do the things the same to those who oppose them, regardless if they believe in religion, or are atheistic. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 16:29:01 GMT
tpfkar Nope, as typical, you guys are shameless liars throughout. Only way you can type anything in response to the horrors you prop up and defend. You brought up the Spanish Inquisition. What they are there for is for you to lie to try to distract from your ENTHUSIASTIC support of bestiality and immorality.
Vatican puts journalists on trialLied about what??? Anti-theist atheists DO always bring up the Spanish Inquisition. Of course flagrant lying lying is what your foundation is based upon. You lied (in this particular instance) about who brought up the Spanish Inquisition in this thread. That would still be you. You ENERGETICALLY support and defend the Blasphemy Church, and constantly minimize it's immoral and bestial actions.
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 16:38:21 GMT
tpfkar Lied about what??? Anti-theist atheists DO always bring up the Spanish Inquisition. Of course flagrant lying lying is what your foundation is based upon. You lied (in this particular instance) about who brought up the Spanish Inquisition in this thread. That would still be you. You ENERGETICALLY support and defend the Blasphemy Church, and constantly minimize it's immoral and bestial actions.
Pennsylvania Bishops Covered Up Abuse of "Hundreds of Children"No its not. Our foundations is based upon the Truth. You were the one who brought up the Inquisition, when you said Nope. The shameless liar around here is YOU. There is no Blasphemy Church that has immoral & bestial actions. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 16:41:11 GMT
tpfkar No, it is not. Yes, communism is an atheistic ideology. So is capitalism. And democracy. And libertarianism. And anarchism. Communism doesn't stamp out religion (to the extent that it does) because it is atheistic, any more than capitalism or democracy do. It stamps it out because it is a dogmatic ideology, and as such the dogmatic ideology of religion is competition. Indeed. Both communism and fascism are systems based on dogmatic ideologies; they stamp out anything that is a threat to their ideology. Which is exactly what religions have frequently done, when they have the power to do so. And for exactly the same reasons. With democracy, you have a choice as to whether you want your Government to rule by religious doctrine or not. With Communism you do not have that choice, because there is Freedom of Religion; no separation of Church & State; nothing. Only a despotic Government. The fact that religions have done exactly the same thing, when they were in power, only goes to show, people will do the things the same to those who oppose them, regardless if they believe in religion, or are atheistic. As hard as you lie, you'll never be able to carry that atheism == Communism. Any more than theism == Catholicism, or even Christianity, if Catholicism wasn't rank blasphemy of that. All religions are delusions as they replace honest appraisal and investigation with indoctrination, want, and suppression of empathy, but some are eminently more pernicious than others when in power, as the Catholic Church and some branches of Islam demonstrate in grisly fashion.
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 10, 2017 17:42:16 GMT
imagine if there truly was a god, with the current levels of infighting going on. how much bloodier the bath would be.
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 18:21:40 GMT
tpfkar With democracy, you have a choice as to whether you want your Government to rule by religious doctrine or not. With Communism you do not have that choice, because there is Freedom of Religion; no separation of Church & State; nothing. Only a despotic Government. The fact that religions have done exactly the same thing, when they were in power, only goes to show, people will do the things the same to those who oppose them, regardless if they believe in religion, or are atheistic. As hard as you lie, you'll never be able to carry that atheism == Communism. Any more than theism == Catholicism, or even Christianity, if Catholicism wasn't rank blasphemy of that. All religions are delusions as they replace honest appraisal and investigation with indoctrination, want, and suppression of empathy, but some are eminently more pernicious than others when in power, as the Catholic Church and some branches of Islam demonstrate in grisly fashion.
German Catholics lose church rights for unpaid taxI never said that atheism == Communism. I said that Communism is an atheistic ideology. But there of course, your head is stuck so all the way up your own arse, you cannot seem to grasp that. |
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