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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 18:28:31 GMT
tpfkar Of course flagrant lying lying is what your foundation is based upon. You lied (in this particular instance) about who brought up the Spanish Inquisition in this thread. That would still be you. You ENERGETICALLY support and defend the Blasphemy Church, and constantly minimize it's immoral and bestial actions.
Pennsylvania Bishops Covered Up Abuse of "Hundreds of Children"No its not. Our foundations is based upon the Truth.  It's pulled-from-the-arse comedy. Actual Christians even think so. And here you compound your congenital lying, attempting to pretend that you haven't been harping on the Spanish Inquisition as opposed to the general disposition of and nonstop history of violence and oppression, from the extermination of cities full of men women and children to their existence-long persecution of individuals continuing to the present day. Pretty pathetic, but standard course for unscrupulous immoral apologists.   Keep up the Holey Chanting.
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 19:23:33 GMT
No its not. Our foundations is based upon the Truth. It's pulled-from-the-arse comedy. Actual Christians even think so. And here you compound your congenital lying, attempting to pretend that you haven't been harping on the Spanish Inquisition as opposed to the general disposition of and nonstop history of violence and oppression, from the extermination of cities full of men women and children to their existence-long persecution of individuals continuing to the present day. Pretty pathetic, but standard course for unscrupulous immoral apologists. Keep up the Holey Chanting.
Vatican puts journalists on trialYep, your inane posts are comedy from your arse, & actual Christians do laugh at them, when they see them here.   |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 19:24:04 GMT
tpfkar As hard as you lie, you'll never be able to carry that atheism == Communism. Any more than theism == Catholicism, or even Christianity, if Catholicism wasn't rank blasphemy of that. All religions are delusions as they replace honest appraisal and investigation with indoctrination, want, and suppression of empathy, but some are eminently more pernicious than others when in power, as the Catholic Church and some branches of Islam demonstrate in grisly fashion.
German Catholics lose church rights for unpaid taxI never said that atheism == Communism. I said that Communism is an atheistic ideology. But there of course, your head is stuck so all the way up your own arse, you cannot seem to grasp that. Right, you ludicrously try to pretend that atheism is to Communism/Stalinism, etc., with it's bloody immoral repression, as the Catholic Church is to the Catholic Church with it's own bloody immoral repression. Just more of your frantic apologist combination of laughable halfwittery and rank dishonesty. 
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Post by clusium on Sept 10, 2017 19:35:53 GMT
I never said that atheism == Communism. I said that Communism is an atheistic ideology. But there of course, your head is stuck so all the way up your own arse, you cannot seem to grasp that. Right, you ludicrously try to pretend that atheism is to Communism/Stalinism, etc., with it's bloody immoral repression, as the Catholic Church is to the Catholic Church with it's own bloody immoral repression. Just more of your frantic apologist combination of laughable halfwittery and rank dishonesty.
Pope Francis, cia, and the death squadsWell, history ITSELF acknowledges Stalin's atheism & its role in his persecution in the USSR, so I figure who am I to disagree...? Religious Persecution In The USSR |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 10, 2017 19:36:09 GMT
tpfkar It's pulled-from-the-arse comedy. Actual Christians even think so. And here you compound your congenital lying, attempting to pretend that you haven't been harping on the Spanish Inquisition as opposed to the general disposition of and nonstop history of violence and oppression, from the extermination of cities full of men women and children to their existence-long persecution of individuals continuing to the present day. Pretty pathetic, but standard course for unscrupulous immoral apologists. Keep up the Holey Chanting.
Vatican puts journalists on trialYep, your inane posts are comedy from your arse, & actual Christians do laugh at them, when they see them here.  I hear you Pope Pee-Wee! What would idol worshipers know about actual Christians save the look of their entrails?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 10, 2017 19:44:24 GMT
Stalinism and the other megalomaniac-isms suppressed any opposition, of course. But the guilt-ridden do need something to cower under, so you just double down and worship your mortal beasts as you do the Grand Warlock. What it opens the mind to is attacking those that do not conform to the arbitrary dogma, via command. It shows your spittly collapse, desperately flailing for anything. And of course you feel free to post nonsense in the support of your pernicious con group. I however am against tyrants whether they wear dresses or military tunics, or anything else, and certainly not in favor of sacrificing children in the cynical effort to prop a debauched and repressive organization.
I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.If that were the case, then how come in Communist countries, they chose to attack those that chose to "conform to said arbitrary dogma....?" I have seen Vegas Devil call you by your former user ID too, & yet, we all know that he is the most  poster on this message forum. And I don't know of anyone that is for tyrants of any kind either. Actually, its that line of talking, which eventually leads up to a tyrannical system such as Communism, anyway. The oppression you're talking about doesn't have anything to do with atheism per se. |
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Post by drystyx on Sept 11, 2017 15:36:19 GMT
That lies at the feet of communism, not atheism. Generally, the persecution of theists by political systems happens not because the system is too rational - nobody could ever accuse Stalin or Hitler or Mao of being too rational. Rather it's because those people and the political doctrines they represented were essentially religions themselves. Stalin's Russia did have a god - Stalin. They attack theism because it's competition, not because of any real atheist or rational leanings. Illogical babble. It lies at the feet of ATHEISM, not Communism. Stalin was a dictator who thought himself a god. That doesn't make it Theism.
Atheism is truly at the root of most evil. It's the root, because it is the rebellion and denial against good and holy God figures. The lone exception is when it's the denial of hateful god figures. Now, the case can be made that the God of the bible is evil by virtue of destroying possibly as many as nine perfectly righteous men with Sodom, or by other acts of cruelty, which we are getting thousands of years after the original reports. The original reports were made for audiences that understood and saw the evils first hand, so it's difficult to judge.
That's as far off the tangent as I'm going now.
When the papacy turned brutal, it was against the laws of Jesus, and a denial of Jesus, therefore it was atheism. That can't be denied. Anyone who denies that is delusional. I know, because I used to be such a deluded fool, but I grew up when I dared to research on my own. The more one researches outside the control of Academia, looking for the most objective material, the more one realizes that atheism is the root of the horrors of the past.
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 16:11:41 GMT
tpfkar Right, you ludicrously try to pretend that atheism is to Communism/Stalinism, etc., with it's bloody immoral repression, as the Catholic Church is to the Catholic Church with it's own bloody immoral repression. Just more of your frantic apologist combination of laughable halfwittery and rank dishonesty.
Pope Francis, cia, and the death squadsWell, history ITSELF acknowledges Stalin's atheism & its role in his persecution in the USSR, so I figure who am I to disagree...? Religious Persecution In The USSRSure, all Stalinisms/Catholicisms/autocrat-isms want to stamp out all competition when they have power. Atheism, as in "not believing in gods" isn't even in the same category. Gone over all this before, not that chanty punctuation-emphasis-drunk halfwits will ever be interested in reality or even in decency over rank apologia.
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Post by clusium on Sept 11, 2017 18:03:34 GMT
tpfkar Sure, all Stalinisms/Catholicisms/autocrat-isms want to stamp out all competition when they have power. Atheism, as in "not believing in gods" isn't even in the same category. Gone over all this before, not that chanty punctuation-emphasis-drunk halfwits will ever be interested in reality or even in decency over rank apologia.
And yes, your no great love for Christianity and Islam DOES equal bigotry & hatred.Yes, we've gone over all this before, & it doesn't negate the fact that you are wrong each & every single time. Communist regimes want a godless society, hence it is an ATHEISTIC IDEOLOGY. Therefore, it is the same category, when religious ideologies fight for power, whether you wish to admit to this or not. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 18:09:39 GMT
tpfkar Sure, all Stalinisms/Catholicisms/autocrat-isms want to stamp out all competition when they have power. Atheism, as in "not believing in gods" isn't even in the same category. Gone over all this before, not that chanty punctuation-emphasis-drunk halfwits will ever be interested in reality or even in decency over rank apologia.
And yes, your no great love for Christianity and Islam DOES equal bigotry & hatred.Yes, we've gone over all this before, & it doesn't negate the fact that you are wrong each & every single time. Communist regimes want a godless society, hence it is an ATHEISTIC IDEOLOGY. Therefore, it is the same category, when religious ideologies fight for power, whether you wish to admit to this or not. But it's not really, as it elevates gods on Earth. Not even the same category. Christianity is a religion and Catholicism is a noxious empire. Theism is the belief in god(s) and atheism is the rejection of that as unwarranted. Regardless of how badly you criminal apologists desperately want distract with imbecilic talk.
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Post by clusium on Sept 11, 2017 18:46:53 GMT
Yes, we've gone over all this before, & it doesn't negate the fact that you are wrong each & every single time. Communist regimes want a godless society, hence it is an ATHEISTIC IDEOLOGY. Therefore, it is the same category, when religious ideologies fight for power, whether you wish to admit to this or not. But it's not really, as it elevates gods on Earth. Not even the same category. Christianity is a religion and Catholicism is a noxious empire. Theism is the belief in god(s) and atheism is the rejection of that as unwarranted. Regardless of how badly you criminal apologists desperately want distract with imbecilic talk.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.Yes, it is in the very same category. Communism is an atheistic ideology, & prevents religious freedom in every single place that it has even been in power. General Mao even told the Dalai Lama that "Religion is poison." Communist regimes are atheistic regimes, no matter how much you want to deny it. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 18:53:10 GMT
tpfkar But it's not really, as it elevates gods on Earth. Not even the same category. Christianity is a religion and Catholicism is a noxious empire. Theism is the belief in god(s) and atheism is the rejection of that as unwarranted. Regardless of how badly you criminal apologists desperately want distract with imbecilic talk.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.Yes, it is in the very same category. Communism is an atheistic ideology, & prevents religious freedom in every single place that it has even been in power. General Mao even told the Dalai Lama that "Religion is poison." Communist regimes are atheistic regimes, no matter how much you want to deny it. Right, same category as theism, not as fleshed out rule-laden religious+political ideologies like Stalinism/Catholicism. What would you expect a Pope or any other corrupt powerhungy dictator to say to their opposition? Any competition is poison.
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Post by clusium on Sept 11, 2017 18:59:13 GMT
tpfkar Yes, it is in the very same category. Communism is an atheistic ideology, & prevents religious freedom in every single place that it has even been in power. General Mao even told the Dalai Lama that "Religion is poison." Communist regimes are atheistic regimes, no matter how much you want to deny it. Right, same category as theism, not as fleshed out rule-laden religious+political ideologies like Stalinism/Catholicism. What would you expect a Pope or any other corrupt powerhungy dictator to say to their opposition? Any competition is poison.
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorHis exact words were: " Religion is Poison." Not "Buddhism is poison, but, **RELIGION.** Karl Marx, the creator of Communism has said "Religion is the opium of the masses," hence, religion is illegal in any state where Communism is imposed. You can argue against the atheistic reality of Communist states, all you like, but, it doesn't make you any less wrong that you already are, each time. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 19:08:52 GMT
tpfkar Right, same category as theism, not as fleshed out rule-laden religious+political ideologies like Stalinism/Catholicism. What would you expect a Pope or any other corrupt powerhungy dictator to say to their opposition? Any competition is poison.
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorHis exact words were: " Religion is Poison." Not "Buddhism is poison, but, **RELIGION.** Karl Marx, the creator of Communism has said "Religion is the opium of the masses," hence, religion is illegal in any state where Communism is imposed. You can argue against the atheistic reality of Communist states, all you like, but, it doesn't make you any less wrong that you already are, each time. Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing. It's not difficult to grok that anything they see as having potential to undermine their power is considered poison to them. Nobody denies that the areligious powermad can be just as immoral and bestial as the Communists/Stalinists/Catholics can be, but atheism is simply the rejection of theism as unwarranted, any anything else is added on for political power and derangement reasons, much like the wild additions of the Catholic Church.
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Post by clusium on Sept 11, 2017 19:21:15 GMT
His exact words were: " Religion is Poison." Not "Buddhism is poison, but, **RELIGION.** Karl Marx, the creator of Communism has said "Religion is the opium of the masses," hence, religion is illegal in any state where Communism is imposed. You can argue against the atheistic reality of Communist states, all you like, but, it doesn't make you any less wrong that you already are, each time. Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing. It's not difficult to grok that anything they see as having potential to undermine their power is considered poison to them. Nobody denies that the areligious powermad can be just as immoral and bestial as the Communists/Stalinists/Catholics can be, but atheism is simply the rejection of theism as unwarranted, any anything else is added on for political power and derangement reasons, much like the wild additions of the Catholic Church.
Priest abused girls"Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing." Pulling at straws, there. Yes, YOU are denying that the areligious power-mad can be as immoral & bestial as anybody else, when you deny that Communist leaders & regimes are anti-theist & atheistic. In fact, it is quite laughable that you even place Catholics in the same category as Communists/Stalinists, when Catholics were severely persecuted by Communists/Stalinists. That is like placing Jews in the same category as Nazis!!!!  You are one sad, pathetic, little man, Cupcakes. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 19:43:36 GMT
tpfkar Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing. It's not difficult to grok that anything they see as having potential to undermine their power is considered poison to them. Nobody denies that the areligious powermad can be just as immoral and bestial as the Communists/Stalinists/Catholics can be, but atheism is simply the rejection of theism as unwarranted, any anything else is added on for political power and derangement reasons, much like the wild additions of the Catholic Church.
Priest abused girls"Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing." Pulling at straws, there. Yes, YOU are denying that the areligious power-mad can be as immoral & bestial as anybody else, when you deny that Communist leaders & regimes are anti-theist & atheistic. In fact, it is quite laughable that you even place Catholics in the same category as Communists/Stalinists, when Catholics were severely persecuted by Communists/Stalinists. That is like placing Jews in the same category as Nazis!!!! You are one sad, pathetic, little man, Cupcakes. I denied none of that, and I've said specifically that any class can become deranged and bestial. Your cognitive skill are, as usual, subbasement. Or is it just more of your "Spanish Inquisition" rank dishonesty? You don't believe in drinking magical blood etc., because of theism, and Beziers wasn't massacred to the man, woman, and child because of "theism". Theists don't routinely sacrifice children to protect one of the most wealthy organizations in the world. That's all Catholic. Catholics weren't singled out, they were one of many persecuted, as any perceived competitor of their power was, including fellow Communists/Stalinists. It just highlights in stark relief that you know how horrific the Catholic Church is and has been that you desperately wish to tie atheism to elaborate ideologies that would also require you joining simple theism to various theist cults, devil worship, etc. Brilliant apologetics. Almost as good as the banana argument thing.
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Post by clusium on Sept 11, 2017 20:05:22 GMT
tpfkar "Sure, and a lot of actual followers of Jesus say the same thing." Pulling at straws, there. Yes, YOU are denying that the areligious power-mad can be as immoral & bestial as anybody else, when you deny that Communist leaders & regimes are anti-theist & atheistic. In fact, it is quite laughable that you even place Catholics in the same category as Communists/Stalinists, when Catholics were severely persecuted by Communists/Stalinists. That is like placing Jews in the same category as Nazis!!!! You are one sad, pathetic, little man, Cupcakes. I denied none of that, and I've said specifically that any class can become deranged and bestial. Your cognitive skill are, as usual, subbasement. Or is it just more of your "Spanish Inquisition" rank dishonesty? You don't believe in drinking magical blood etc., because of theism, and Beziers wasn't massacred to the man, woman, and child because of "theism". Theists don't routinely sacrifice children to protect one of the most wealthy organizations in the world. That's all Catholic. Catholics weren't singled out, they were one of many persecuted, as any perceived competitor of their power was, including fellow Communists/Stalinists. It just highlights in stark relief that you know how horrific the Catholic Church is and has been that you desperately wish to tie atheism to elaborate ideologies that would also require you joining simple theism to various theist cults, devil worship, etc. Brilliant apologetics. Almost as good as the banana argument thing.
NJ Catholic school says girl who sued to play on boys’ team can’t return for class next yearYes, you are in denial, if do not acknowledge that Communism is an atheistic ideology!! Orthodox & Catholic Christians were persecuted in the USSR, precisely for their Christianity; precisely for their belief, & worship Of God. I do not wish to tie atheism to any elaborate ideology. It is a historic FACT that Communism is an atheistic ideology. A fact which you, as an anti-theist atheist wish to deny. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 20:17:04 GMT
tpfkar I denied none of that, and I've said specifically that any class can become deranged and bestial. Your cognitive skill are, as usual, subbasement. Or is it just more of your "Spanish Inquisition" rank dishonesty? You don't believe in drinking magical blood etc., because of theism, and Beziers wasn't massacred to the man, woman, and child because of "theism". Theists don't routinely sacrifice children to protect one of the most wealthy organizations in the world. That's all Catholic. Catholics weren't singled out, they were one of many persecuted, as any perceived competitor of their power was, including fellow Communists/Stalinists. It just highlights in stark relief that you know how horrific the Catholic Church is and has been that you desperately wish to tie atheism to elaborate ideologies that would also require you joining simple theism to various theist cults, devil worship, etc. Brilliant apologetics. Almost as good as the banana argument thing.
NJ Catholic school says girl who sued to play on boys’ team can’t return for class next yearYes, you are in denial, if do not acknowledge that Communism is an atheistic ideology!! Orthodox & Catholic Christians were persecuted in the USSR, precisely for their Christianity; precisely for their belief, & worship Of God. I do not wish to tie atheism to any elaborate ideology. It is a historic FACT that Communism is an atheistic ideology. A fact which you, as an anti-theist atheist wish to deny. Sure, sure, go ahead and rabid emphasis chant also that Nazism is a theistic ideology, like it means anything. When you sound dumber than Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, you really should realize that your game needs upgrading.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 11, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
Yes, you are in denial, if do not acknowledge that Communism is an atheistic ideology!! Orthodox & Catholic Christians were persecuted in the USSR, precisely for their Christianity; precisely for their belief, & worship Of God. I do not wish to tie atheism to any elaborate ideology. It is a historic FACT that Communism is an atheistic ideology. A fact which you, as an anti-theist atheist wish to deny. Sure, sure, go ahead and rabid emphasis chant also that Nazism is a theistic ideology, like it means anything. When you sound dumber than Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, you really should realize that your game needs upgrading.
Up to 400 children who died at a Catholic orphanage are buried in an unmarked mass grave, Scottish investigation revealsAnd when you resort to cheap insults and generalizations, you really should realize that you're losing the game, cupcakes. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 11, 2017 20:26:00 GMT
tpfkar And when you resort to cheap insults and generalizations, you really should realize that you're losing the game, cupcakes. Oh the nutty nutty IRON-y. And I calls 'em as I sees 'em, with all of her "fellow intelligent posters".
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