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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 18:16:01 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: 862.9 million USD
Wonder Woman: 807.4 million USD
Nope!
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Post by Jedan Archer on Sept 6, 2017 20:55:18 GMT
Congrats indeed. Credit where it's due. I would never have thought that possible when they announced who would play the Wonder Woman character. Keep up the good work.
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Post by primeone on Sept 7, 2017 0:06:19 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: 862.9 million USD Wonder Woman: 807.4 million USD Nope! Wonder Woman: $409,673,043 Guardians of the Galaxy 2: $389,690,702 Which was the main point, not the total....wait I’m sorry, you knew that already. I almost forgot you’re a hating nitpicker
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 7, 2017 9:45:31 GMT
good CBM movie year considering we have another milestone with Logan
I hope one of them gets at least a nod at the Oscars too. It would strengthen the position of more serious CMB's vis-a-vis children orientated money makers a la GotG2 or SMHC.
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Post by dazz on Sept 7, 2017 11:05:35 GMT
I wouldn't pay much notice to Screenrant as more than a few times things they state as fact is outright bullshit, I mean I've seen them claim certain movies are successful because they made just over their budget back clearly not understanding either the cost of marketing or the fact studios only receive half the box office a film earns, I mean they aren't even smart enough to realise Spider-Man was a Sony release not a Disney one, fucking idiots, I checked via Box Office Mojo btw and WB's numbers don't match up by about $170m in WB's favour via SR, Disney's earnings are a little off also but only by about $20-25m meaning if SR are their usual retarded selves Disney actually won the summer.
Keep in mind this WB also released twice as many films as Disney did, Disney didn't see a release earn less than $150m domestically whilst the majority of WB's is off the back of one film.
Edit: Just realised why my calculations and SR's are different, I totally missed Dunkirk, I'm such a pleb, still it add's up to $780m not $790m so their idiots also.
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Post by sostie on Sept 7, 2017 11:25:04 GMT
Keep in mind this WB also released twice as many films as Disney did, Disney didn't see a release earn less than $150m domestically whilst the majority of WB's is off the back of one film.
If Screenrant are counting Spider-Man as a Disney (Buena Vista film), and Summer season starts in May. then I think they both had 4 films out. Again if as they say SMH counts as Disney/BV then the figures take BV way ahead of WB (according to Box Office Mojo figures. Also I think WB may have had the biggest flop in King Arthur. The feature really tells you nothing aother than what took money in the US. The real clincher is World Wide Box Office minus budget.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 13:04:09 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: 862.9 million USD Wonder Woman: 807.4 million USD Nope! They are talking DOMESTIC. Not World Wide. Disney failed Domestic this summer outside of GotG Vol II.
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Post by dazz on Sept 7, 2017 13:33:00 GMT
Worldwide B.O - Budget & Marketing, thats what makes it a win or not because for a major release you can be looking at an additional $100m or so just in marketing cost .
As for their releases WB released 6 films to Disney's 3, Disney released GOTG 3, POTC 5 & Cars 3 whilst WB released Wonder Woman, Dunkirk, Annabelle Creation, The House, King Arthur & Everything, Everything, interestingly though WB spent over $100m less making their 6 films than Marvel spent to make their 3, though Disney didn't have any big bombs where as WB had King Arthur & The House neither even made as much as it cost to make them to start with.
Very mixed summer for WB really.
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Post by dazz on Sept 7, 2017 13:45:51 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: 862.9 million USD Wonder Woman: 807.4 million USD Nope! They are talking DOMESTIC. Not World Wide. Disney failed Domestic this summer outside of GotG Vol II. How is $700m+ with only 3 films failing? Disney averaged around $235-240m per film compared to WB's $130m per film, all 3 Disney films were part of the 10 highest grossing movies domestically of the summer, where as WB only has 3 of their 6 in the top 25, if you take the top 3 WB films and compare their take to Disney's 3 films Disney wins, WB's victory for the summer comes at a cost of around $120m or more due to Arthur & The House bombing.
Also domestic doesn't mean dick it's overall global box office that matters.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 7, 2017 15:03:49 GMT
They are talking DOMESTIC. Not World Wide. Disney failed Domestic this summer outside of GotG Vol II. How is $700m+ with only 3 films failing? Disney averaged around $235-240m per film compared to WB's $130m per film, all 3 Disney films were part of the 10 highest grossing movies domestically of the summer, where as WB only has 3 of their 6 in the top 25, if you take the top 3 WB films and compare their take to Disney's 3 films Disney wins, WB's victory for the summer comes at a cost of around $120m or more due to Arthur & The House bombing.
Also domestic doesn't mean dick it's overall global box office that matters.
Don't studios gain a greater percentage of a film's domestic box office compared to the foreign box office numbers? Isn't that why The Mummy is considered a disappointment despite making over $400 million? WW seems to have had a better ROI than GotG 2.
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Post by dnno1 on Sept 7, 2017 15:47:20 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: 862.9 million USD Wonder Woman: 807.4 million USD Nope! Summer is now in North America (not in Brazil or some other parts of the world). Wonder Woman has the highest grossing box office for the North American Summer season. That's what Screen Rant is referring to.
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Post by dazz on Sept 7, 2017 15:55:22 GMT
How is $700m+ with only 3 films failing? Disney averaged around $235-240m per film compared to WB's $130m per film, all 3 Disney films were part of the 10 highest grossing movies domestically of the summer, where as WB only has 3 of their 6 in the top 25, if you take the top 3 WB films and compare their take to Disney's 3 films Disney wins, WB's victory for the summer comes at a cost of around $120m or more due to Arthur & The House bombing.
Also domestic doesn't mean dick it's overall global box office that matters.
Don't studios gain a greater percentage of a film's domestic box office compared to the foreign box office numbers? Isn't that why The Mummy is considered a disappointment despite making over $400 million? WW seems to have had a better ROI than GotG 2.
I dunno there's no hard rule just the general understanding that ultimately it boils down to the studios get about half the box office, but how this is worked out comes down to each individual studio negotiating their terms with each theatre chain, so bigger studios can demand better deals, whilst the bigger chains can push back against the demands smaller chains have to agree to.
But seeing how important the international market has become to the success of so many of these movies I doubt the disparity between domestic and international revenue split differs all that much.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 7, 2017 16:27:23 GMT
Don't studios gain a greater percentage of a film's domestic box office compared to the foreign box office numbers? Isn't that why The Mummy is considered a disappointment despite making over $400 million? WW seems to have had a better ROI than GotG 2.
I dunno there's no hard rule just the general understanding that ultimately it boils down to the studios get about half the box office, but how this is worked out comes down to each individual studio negotiating their terms with each theatre chain, so bigger studios can demand better deals, whilst the bigger chains can push back against the demands smaller chains have to agree to.
But seeing how important the international market has become to the success of so many of these movies I doubt the disparity between domestic and international revenue split differs all that much.
No one's saying that the foreign box office doesn't matter, but from what I understand, the domestic box office matters more. That's why Warcraft probably isn't getting a sequel. If a movie bombs domestically but does well overseas, it probably has less of a chance of getting a sequel than a movie that does well domestically, but poorly overseas.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 7, 2017 16:35:35 GMT
What is the relevance of this statistic? Disney released "Beauty and the Beast" in March and it has blown away everything else so far this year. If they released it in the summer this article would be completely different.
And while we are on the subject, I'm going to point out something. In the movie industry if a movie makes double it's PRODUCTION budget at the global box office then it is considered a success. That means it may get a sequel and the people involved with the project can put it on their resumes as a success. This has nothing to do with profit. Movies continue to make money for years after they finish their run in theaters. Streaming and TV rights, merchandising, DVD/Blu-ray etc., that's where the profits come from.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 8, 2017 17:30:37 GMT
Except Spiderman is about to fly past Wonder Woman, and Guardians is well past it, among other things, so they got it wrong.
Oh domestic? Well geee which one did better in Ohio. Let's do an article about that and pretend that it matters.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 8, 2017 20:00:38 GMT
Despicable Me 3 has made over a billion, so technically Universal and Illumination won the summer.
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Post by dnno1 on Sept 8, 2017 20:00:50 GMT
Except Spiderman is about to fly past Wonder Woman, and Guardians is well past it, among other things, so they got it wrong.
Oh domestic? Well geee which one did better in Ohio. Let's do an article about that and pretend that it matters.
Summer ends in 2 more weeks. It is doubtful that Spiderman: Homecoming can make $75 million in two more weeks seeing that last weekend it only made a little over $4 million and the film's box office has been steadily dropping at a more than 30% per week pace. It will only make $5 million (domestic) in the next two weekends and probably end up with a domestic gross of $335 million. The world wide box office might be a different story, though.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 8, 2017 20:05:38 GMT
Except Spiderman is about to fly past Wonder Woman, and Guardians is well past it, among other things, so they got it wrong.
Oh domestic? Well geee which one did better in Ohio. Let's do an article about that and pretend that it matters.
Summer ends in 2 more weeks. It is doubtful that Spiderman: Homecoming can make $75 million in two more weeks seeing that last weekend it only made a little over $4 million and the film's box office has been steadily dropping at a more than 30% per week pace. It will only make $5 million (domestic) in the next two weekends and probably end up with a domestic gross of $335 million. The world wide box office might be a different story, though. It's about to get 70 in it's first weekend in China, and it's a summer film. It's blow by WW's total, and worldwide is all that really matters, so I don't know why you're placing emphasis on the domestic. My comment about Ohio was specifically to highlight that breaking it down to a smaller component and acting like that small component has more value, is just silly.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 8, 2017 22:08:56 GMT
Summer ends in 2 more weeks. It is doubtful that Spiderman: Homecoming can make $75 million in two more weeks seeing that last weekend it only made a little over $4 million and the film's box office has been steadily dropping at a more than 30% per week pace. It will only make $5 million (domestic) in the next two weekends and probably end up with a domestic gross of $335 million. The world wide box office might be a different story, though. It's about to get 70 in it's first weekend in China, and it's a summer film. It's blow by WW's total, and worldwide is all that really matters, so I don't know why you're placing emphasis on the domestic. My comment about Ohio was specifically to highlight that breaking it down to a smaller component and acting like that small component has more value, is just silly. Given that studios are said to gain a greater percentage of a film's domestic earnings compared to overseas, I d say that no, worldwide isn't all that matters. That's not to say it doesn't matter at all, but there's a reason people tend to pay more attention to the domestic numbers. If worldwide was the only thing that matters, The Mummy wouldn't have been viewed as such a disappointment.
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