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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 8, 2017 20:14:40 GMT
“A Game” Ascertain the word that rhymes with “false”— one's real, let me assure you— let's say that its first letter grew, composed a larger, wordy stew. What is this I’ve heard? You cannot find each letter? Oh, but you know better, for you already know them, slightly stirred. Now find the thread beginning with that, and listen with care to every flat. Listen close, I hasten to add, to the start, and you’ll be glad. Now it would be a certain crime so not to look for the right time to respond here with an answer prime— and thereby win the game. Notification that alfromni and brimfin were the first to find the correct answer to this puzzle (which proves that it can be done! ).
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Post by alfromni on Sept 9, 2017 7:51:03 GMT
Nalkarj --- Is this poem movie related, or perhaps as you're a 'tec writer, crime related?
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 9, 2017 9:02:03 GMT
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Post by alfromni on Sept 9, 2017 10:31:25 GMT
Nalkarj --- I've been scratching my head over this for a good few hours, and I'm no nearer solving the start, than I was at the start, let alone the rest of it. Sorry buddy...Beats me!
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 10, 2017 13:32:40 GMT
alfromniSorry about that! This is just a kinda silly game I thought up based on Pete's original puzzle. If you'd like to try again, I'd advise going line by line...
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Post by alfromni on Sept 10, 2017 13:49:05 GMT
Nalkarj --- ~~~" If you'd like to try again, I'd advise going line by line..."~~~ I did. Got nowhere.
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Post by Pete on Sept 11, 2017 12:54:51 GMT
TRicky one. I've been thinking about it and made no progress.
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Post by alfromni on Sept 12, 2017 0:26:22 GMT
Nalkarj - Poem. The only words that I find rhyming with "False" are: calce, falce, halse, haulse, salse, valse, waltz
Looked these up in dictionaries plural.
calce - no definition falce - rare US surname halse - ditto haulse - see halse salse - volanic mud valse, waltz - a dance in 3/4 or 3/8 time
None of which make any sense to the following lines of the poem.
I'm stumped.
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Post by alfromni on Sept 12, 2017 0:54:45 GMT
Nalkarj~~~"Does that help?"~~~ Not yet. A new pot of coffee might help.
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Post by alfromni on Sept 12, 2017 3:12:04 GMT
Nalkarj "Valse poem" I just haven't a clue. Even the wording of the poem doesn't make any sense to me. I think I'll enrol in Klingon classes instead. Beats me.
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Post by Pete on Sept 13, 2017 19:27:09 GMT
Well, my rhyming dictionary tells me that waltz is a legitimate rhyme for false.
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Post by Pete on Sept 14, 2017 15:00:37 GMT
Well, good enough for the middle of a limerick, at least.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 14, 2017 15:38:35 GMT
Pete , the word I was intending was valse, a genuine alternate term for waltz and the only non-archaic term I know that is a full rhyme with false. Does that help? BIG HINT: Pete , I wrote, "...you already know them [the letters], slightly stirred." Yes, you do. Why did I use the word ascertain rather than find? Because ascertain works with the puzzle in a way that, say, find does not: I needed that first a in ascertain. Why would I need it? For a puzzle technique I've used before on this forum: an acrostic. We know that we need the v from valse--more than that, we know our word starts with v, as the word "grows" from it--and then we have to take the first letter from every line of the first stanza, "stir" them [it's an anagram of a common word], and we will have the answer to the first part of the puzzle.
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Post by brimfin on Sept 14, 2017 23:04:07 GMT
I've solved the puzzle, but at the OP's request have removed the solution.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 14, 2017 23:06:18 GMT
The answer to your puzzle is: A Quarter to three (time reference, plus prime reference - the number three) Yes, exactly, and that's the prime reference. Time, though: what's "a quarter to three" expressed numerically? (I probably should have specified this point better.)
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Post by brimfin on Sept 17, 2017 1:01:07 GMT
I've solved the puzzle, but at the OP's request have removed the solution. Same thing, Brimfin: when you're done, would you mind deleting these posts? Just so that everyone who wants to play along starts with the same blank slate. I've left the posts in, but have removed the solution which should satisfy your request.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 17, 2017 1:18:09 GMT
Same thing, Brimfin: when you're done, would you mind deleting these posts? Just so that everyone who wants to play along starts with the same blank slate. Why would I need to do that? That's what the spoiler is for. If they don't want to know the answer, don't open the spoiler. Because (1) it's tempting with the answer right there, and I, as the one who created the puzzle, want everyone to start with a complete blank slate (I wasn't intending all the hints, either, but it's OK--as you can see, I deleted all my own hints except for that one for Pete because he asked for it), and (2) it would be a nice thing to do, as I asked. If you want me to write that you and Al solved it, I can write that in the OP.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 18, 2017 3:35:05 GMT
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