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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 5:24:11 GMT
Yeah, it took away so much that the movie's only made $825 million and counting. That money is coming from superhero fans. I'm pretty sure that everyone involved is quite pleased with how it's turned out. The Transformer movies made like 3 Billion and are still regarded as trash. You can't use a money argument. Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 17, 2017 7:28:15 GMT
The Transformer movies made like 3 Billion and are still regarded as trash. You can't use a money argument. Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. SMH had poor word of mouth. That's why it had massive drops of 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. And SMH underperformed financial expectations. SMH was heavily marketed as Iron Man 4 and SMH even included cameos from Captain America. So SMH had MCU's 3 most popular heroes and was supposed to have easily surpassed Wonder Woman at the domestic box office, but Wonder Woman beat SMH easily at the domestic box office.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 17, 2017 7:31:05 GMT
The Transformer movies made like 3 Billion and are still regarded as trash. You can't use a money argument. Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. positive word of mouth? This would explain the unprecedented 60% drop in week 2? No, the word of mouth is that this is an uninspired more-of-the-same, ok film (leave the echo chamber and go to some non-MCU forums). Rather, artificial boosters and IP hype prevented this mediocrity from flopping: 1. Spidey is generally one of the most popular SH next to Bats/Supes with his main stakeholder being the super lucrative children market. In China and other countries he is the most popular SM since ever. 2. The film was strongly, strongly promoted with the most popular MCU characters: like RDJ/Iron Man and Cap. 3. IT was the long promised glorious homecoming of Marvels most popular hero into the currently most popular CMB franchise - this was blatantly promoted even in the title . Considering these boosters the results are merely decent, and if the film would have actual artistic merit and inspiration it would have gone through the commercial roof - LOL it required month and finally China to pass WW, a female-led DCEU origin movie!...that's not good...
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Post by thenewnexus on Sept 17, 2017 8:11:42 GMT
Makeing this a John Hughes takes away alot,it hardly feels like superhero movie. ASM and the first two Raimi films had that hero film. I hope Sony bails out of the MCU and Takes back Spiderman Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... It felt like a high school comedy and not a hero flick. I only want to see spiderman in a serious movie. If the mcu starts from scratch gets rid of the Jokes and Humor and has the Winter Soldier or ASM Tone then yes I want him to be in this universe if not he can head back to Sony.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 17, 2017 9:35:24 GMT
Makeing this a John Hughes takes away alot,it hardly feels like superhero movie. ASM and the first two Raimi films had that hero film. I hope Sony bails out of the MCU and Takes back Spiderman Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... Why do you think 'Venom' will end up like 'Fant4stic'?
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 17, 2017 9:39:11 GMT
Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... It felt like a high school comedy and not a hero flick. I only want to see spiderman in a serious movie. If the mcu starts from scratch gets rid of the Jokes and Humor and has the Winter Soldier or ASM Tone then yes I want him to be in this universe if not he can head back to Sony. Yeah, because the first 'Spider-Man' was a "serious" film.
Also, do you really want Sony to handle 'Spider-Man' again after seeing what happened with 'The Amazing Spider-Man 2'?
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 17, 2017 9:44:43 GMT
Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. SMH had poor word of mouth. That's why it had massive drops of 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. And SMH underperformed financial expectations. SMH was heavily marketed as Iron Man 4 and SMH even included cameos from Captain America. So SMH had MCU's 3 most popular heroes and was supposed to have easily surpassed Wonder Woman at the domestic box office, but Wonder Woman beat SMH easily at the domestic box office. By that logic, 'The Emoji Movie' would be a masterpiece since it had much smaller drop than 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' and is performing far better than expected.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 17, 2017 9:46:54 GMT
Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. positive word of mouth? This would explain the unprecedented 60% drop in week 2? No, the word of mouth is that this is an uninspired more-of-the-same, ok film (leave the echo chamber and go to some non-MCU forums). Rather, artificial boosters and IP hype prevented this mediocrity from flopping: 1. Spidey is generally one of the most popular SH next to Bats/Supes with his main stakeholder being the super lucrative children market. In China and other countries he is the most popular SM since ever. 2. The film was strongly, strongly promoted with the most popular MCU characters: like RDJ/Iron Man and Cap. 3. IT was the long promised glorious homecoming of Marvels most popular hero into the currently most popular CMB franchise - this was blatantly promoted even in the title . Considering these boosters the results are merely decent, and if the film would have actual artistic merit and inspiration it would have gone through the commercial roof - LOL it required month and finally China to pass WW, a female-led DCEU origin movie!...that's not good... Read what I said to DC-Fan.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 17, 2017 10:58:05 GMT
I said they were like catamarans, as in they have separate floatation, as in if one compartment is flooded the other s still float. Here is a structural blueprint, you can see that if the cut is like in the movie, no major floating compartment would be compromised. Yeah, they won't sink after splitting in half because the blueprints said so, just like how the blueprints said the Titanic wouldn't sink either. If the Titanic had several robotic men holding it together it would have stayed afloat.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 17, 2017 10:58:52 GMT
Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... It felt like a high school comedy and not a hero flick. I only want to see spiderman in a serious movie. If the mcu starts from scratch gets rid of the Jokes and Humor and has the Winter Soldier or ASM Tone then yes I want him to be in this universe if not he can head back to Sony. So you want the MCU to be ashamed of itself. You line of thinking is what makes movies like Battlefield Earth.
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Post by mcufan on Sept 17, 2017 11:23:54 GMT
I said they were like catamarans, as in they have separate floatation, as in if one compartment is flooded the other s still float. Here is a structural blueprint, you can see that if the cut is like in the movie, no major floating compartment would be compromised. Yeah, they won't sink after splitting in half because the blueprints said so, just like how the blueprints said the Titanic wouldn't sink either. what a moronic thing to say... The blueprints don't say anything, moron. It just proves it is possible it wouldn't sink with that kind of damage. The blueprints of the Titanic proves it would actually sink, and it did. Anyway what you say is irrelevant, as you are the one shrugging aside a major plot hole in wonder woman as a boat from the gods. Lol, what are you 5? Don't understand something? It's magic! Hahahaha
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 17, 2017 12:21:06 GMT
positive word of mouth? This would explain the unprecedented 60% drop in week 2? No, the word of mouth is that this is an uninspired more-of-the-same, ok film (leave the echo chamber and go to some non-MCU forums). Rather, artificial boosters and IP hype prevented this mediocrity from flopping: 1. Spidey is generally one of the most popular SH next to Bats/Supes with his main stakeholder being the super lucrative children market. In China and other countries he is the most popular SM since ever. 2. The film was strongly, strongly promoted with the most popular MCU characters: like RDJ/Iron Man and Cap. 3. IT was the long promised glorious homecoming of Marvels most popular hero into the currently most popular CMB franchise - this was blatantly promoted even in the title . Considering these boosters the results are merely decent, and if the film would have actual artistic merit and inspiration it would have gone through the commercial roof - LOL it required month and finally China to pass WW, a female-led DCEU origin movie!...that's not good... Read what I said to DC-Fan. You miss the point, Buster. Read what I said to Dredd, reflect it properly and then revert back.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 17, 2017 14:26:45 GMT
If the Titanic had several robotic men holding it together it would have stayed afloat. i love this sentence.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 14:31:26 GMT
Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. SMH had poor word of mouth. That's why it had massive drops of 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. And SMH underperformed financial expectations. SMH was heavily marketed as Iron Man 4 and SMH even included cameos from Captain America. So SMH had MCU's 3 most popular heroes and was supposed to have easily surpassed Wonder Woman at the domestic box office, but Wonder Woman beat SMH easily at the domestic box office. $824,624,896 worldwide, not bad at all and its still making moolah. Wonder Woman's total worldwide box office is $817,662,300 . And in case you've been living under a rock these past few years studios are more attentive to worldwide gross than domestic these days. And no, SMH was definitely not marketed as Iron Man 4.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 17, 2017 14:33:19 GMT
SMH had poor word of mouth. That's why it had massive drops of 60% on its 2nd weekend and another 50% on its 3rd weekend. And SMH underperformed financial expectations. SMH was heavily marketed as Iron Man 4 and SMH even included cameos from Captain America. So SMH had MCU's 3 most popular heroes and was supposed to have easily surpassed Wonder Woman at the domestic box office, but Wonder Woman beat SMH easily at the domestic box office. $824,624,896 worldwide, not bad at all and its still making moolah. Wonder Woman's total worldwide box office is $817,662,300 . And in case you've been living under a rock these past few years studios are more attentive to worldwide gross than domestic these days. And no, SMH was definitely not marketed as Iron Man 4. Also, have you read what I've said about 'The Emoji Movie'.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 14:34:06 GMT
Except Homecoming has done well critically in addition to doing well financially, positive word of the mouth has made it one of the biggest hits of the summer, whereas the divisive Pirates and Transformers underperformed financial expectations. positive word of mouth? This would explain the unprecedented 60% drop in week 2? No, the word of mouth is that this is an uninspired more-of-the-same, ok film (leave the echo chamber and go to some non-MCU forums). Rather, artificial boosters and IP hype prevented this mediocrity from flopping: 1. Spidey is generally one of the most popular SH next to Bats/Supes with his main stakeholder being the super lucrative children market. In China and other countries he is the most popular SM since ever. 2. The film was strongly, strongly promoted with the most popular MCU characters: like RDJ/Iron Man and Cap. 3. IT was the long promised glorious homecoming of Marvels most popular hero into the currently most popular CMB franchise - this was blatantly promoted even in the title . Considering these boosters the results are merely decent, and if the film would have actual artistic merit and inspiration it would have gone through the commercial roof - LOL it required month and finally China to pass WW, a female-led DCEU origin movie!...that's not good... Movie has made more than Wonder Woman in total and is still making dough and the majority of general movie goers who saw it liked it, as well as critics. Movie is a crowd pleaser, deal.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 14:34:25 GMT
$824,624,896 worldwide, not bad at all and its still making moolah. Wonder Woman's total worldwide box office is $817,662,300 . And in case you've been living under a rock these past few years studios are more attentive to worldwide gross than domestic these days. And no, SMH was definitely not marketed as Iron Man 4. Also, have you read what I've said about 'The Emoji Movie'. Yes.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 14:37:28 GMT
Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... Why do you think 'Venom' will end up like 'Fant4stic'? Because like Fan4stic its being made solely as a rights grab, it has no other purpose than to be so, and they are fast-tracking it so it can be released next year for chump change. They are also turning the property into what it isn't - a dark comedy with Carpenter/Cronenberg-ian visuals and slapstick humor like Anchorman. Sorry if I want something like that I'd go with Rick & Morty.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 17, 2017 14:45:43 GMT
Dude, no offense but are you typing on your phone? You are making spelling mistakes that anybody would spot in the first read. Homecoming for sure felt like a superhero movie, WTF are you talking about? So you rather Spider-Man not be in the MCU with other heroes and instead be stuck in a contained universe along with their poor attempts of Venom and Black Cat and Silver Sable? Both of which sound like they're heading to be Fan4stic 2.0.'s... It felt like a high school comedy and not a hero flick. I only want to see spiderman in a serious movie. If the mcu starts from scratch gets rid of the Jokes and Humor and has the Winter Soldier or ASM Tone then yes I want him to be in this universe if not he can head back to Sony. If you only want to see Spider-Man in serious movies, you don't understand the character very well. And no, the MCU does not need to "start from scratch" and get rid of its humor and be all like Winter Soldier, if it did that then it wouldn't be diverse or interesting. Not everything has to be light and not everything needs to be heavy, its actually reflective of real life by playing it both ways because every day we live in there is joy and there is suffering, there is no concrete emotional projection, we are all different and living in different circumstances. And Sony does have the movie rights, they're just working with Marvel Studios on the Homecoming films.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 17, 2017 15:48:37 GMT
Yeah, they won't sink after splitting in half because the blueprints said so, just like how the blueprints said the Titanic wouldn't sink either. what a moronic thing to say... The blueprints don't say anything, moron. It just proves it is possible it wouldn't sink with that kind of damage. The blueprints of the Titanic proves it would actually sink, and it did. No, the blueprints said the Titanic wouldn't sink. The blueprints said if 1 compartment was flooded, it would be sealed off and there was no way the water could get into the adjacent compartments. The blueprints basically said the Titanic was unsinkable. That's why they thought the lifeboats weren't needed and didn't have enough of them for all the passengers. you are the one shrugging aside a major plot hole in wonder woman as a boat from the gods.[/quote] It's not a plothole at all. It's an Amazon boat so it's probably a gift from the gods, just like the Lasso of Truth. Oh, you didn't know that the Lasso of Truth had magical powers? Well, like the Lasso of Truth (which was made by the gods), the boat (which was probably also made by the gods) probably also as magical powers. So it's not a plothole at all. Unlike a normal ferry boat that is split in half and doesn't sink just because Iron Man pushes the 2 split halves of the boat together. Or like Ned bringing a bomb that Peter gave him into the Washington Monument and blowing up the elevator and not even getting detained for questioning by DHS, FBI, or DC Police. Now those are major plotholes.
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