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Post by snsurone on Sept 12, 2017 18:53:52 GMT
I've noticed that sound effects on film and TV tends to be quite exaggerated.
I can remember an episode of COLUMBO where Peter Falk dropped a jar cap on a table, and it sounded like a pistol shot!
Speaking of which, when guns are fired, especially large caliber ones, are the sounds of the shots dubbed in post production?
If not, a lot of Western and action actors must have severe hearing loss.
I do know that the clicks of tap dancers are dubbed in.
BTW, I also notice that background music, especially in older TV shows tend to be rather obtrusive, especially when it's meant to display mood.
Aren't viewers intelligent enough to discern the mood of a scene themselves?
Nothing against background music itself, except it tends to be overdone, sometimes.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 12, 2017 19:34:07 GMT
I remember reading that during the making of Indiana Jones movies, the loud effects when he punches someone is just a baseball bat being swung against leather jackets.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Sept 12, 2017 20:50:30 GMT
I've noticed that sound effects on film and TV tends to be quite exaggerated. I can remember an episode of COLUMBO where Peter Falk dropped a jar cap on a table, and it sounded like a pistol shot! Speaking of which, when guns are fired, especially large caliber ones, are the sounds of the shots dubbed in post production? If not, a lot of Western and action actors must have severe hearing loss. I do know that the clicks of tap dancers are dubbed in. BTW, I also notice that background music, especially in older TV shows tend to be rather obtrusive, especially when it's meant to display mood. Aren't viewers intelligent enough to discern the mood of a scene themselves? Nothing against background music itself, except it tends to be overdone, sometimes. I've been experiencing the phenomenon you describe more and more in recent years. Not only with newer productions (or newly-mastered Blu-rays or DVDs of older ones, where dialogue, music and effects tracks have been remixed), but even with broadcasts or discs of films going back to the 40's or '30s that I've already seen many times and had no trouble with. I don't know your age, but in my case, I've been forced to conclude it's some symptom of what I call "Baby Boomer Hearing." It's common as we age for higher-frequency sensitivity (where discerning spoken words comes into play) to diminish, while lower-frequency hearing (heavily involved in music and effects) remains more intact. When hubby and I are watching anything, we often ask each other, " What did she say?" Neither of us has ever asked, "Did you hear a gunshot?" Or, "Is there any music playing in this scene?" Speaking of gunfire, it's pretty much invariably the case for what you hear having been added in post. It's usually true as well of things like automotive sounds, be they racing engines or squealing tires, and even commonplace noises like background bar or restaurant sounds, closing doors, ringing telephones, popping corks and clinking ice, footsteps or that jar cap you described are often as not recorded on a Foley stage rather than on-set. When it comes to music, I agree with you that much television, and many feature films for that matter, are over-scored. |
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Post by snsurone on Sept 12, 2017 21:33:42 GMT
The funny thing is that in the early days of talkies, extemporaneous sounds were a real problem, and studios had to resort to certain lengths to contain them.
I remember reading that while filming THE COCOANUTS, the blueprint had to be soaked in water so that the crackling of the paper couldn't interfere with the dialogue.
This problem was displayed to great comic effect in SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (see post below).
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Post by snsurone on Sept 13, 2017 21:33:38 GMT
Oh, dog--regarding my age: I'm the same age as the State of Israel.
;-)
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