The bigger question is... why did Rian Johnson bail?

It's been reported that JJ had no clue what the answers were to the questions posed in TFA. It was just another "mystery box" where he was going to let others finish everything up. There were no definitive answers to who Rey is or why Kylo turned. Which means they almost certainly had no clue where their arcs were headed.

Which member of the SW team actually got quoted saying that?  Anybody actually being paid by Disney will suffice.  Let me know who said that.

Everything you just said.  By the way, I got a copy of that original novel with dust jacket from '76 for my birthday. Can't wait to read it.

Not only all the points you just made, but also, I like how "rumors" and blogs and "reports from anonymous sources" are debated as fact on this site.  But only if it serves the purpose of bashing TFA/Kennedy/Abrams/Rey/Finn.  But if I were to back up my Plagueis/Snoke theory by bringing up the deleted scene from ROTS where Palpatine just comes out and says to Anakin, "Plagueis created you," then it's all "NOT CANON!  INVALID! NOT CANON! INVALID! FALSE!"

It's probably about structure, and organic exposition. The OT had it, TFA did not. You had a sense of the state of the Galaxy in the OT... Now it's just all unanswered questions. Due to the lack of consistency, overabundance of contrivance, hollow plot, I just never ended up caring about the villain or the heros in TFA.

Yes, he should have made it in the 80's, or right after the PT(maybe the PT could have been made sooner in this imaginary mirror universe). I doubt he was short for cash even if people hated him.

And which unanswered questions are there from TFA that did not exist in ANH?  I can't think of any.

This is true. So since this had already been established, you can't really hold it against TFA for not establishing it.


Not true at all.  We find out that (at least) the dark side can be used to warp either space, time or both in order to freeze animate objects, we see psychometry used for the first time on film, we see the Force assert itself.  There's actually a stunning amount of exposition on the Force considering it had already been well-expounded upon in the OT and PT.

Because it doesn't take training to do things with the Force.  This was "old canon," it is "new canon," and it is common sense.

As I've posted numerous times, Rey taps into the dark side both times she overcomes Kylo.  i don't know why this is so hard for most people to see and/or why it's being ignored.  It's a very big deal and no one really wants to deal with this fact.  But that's why she's effective when she's afraid.  If you watch closely, those times she's afraid, her fear turns to anger.  And we all know what happens when that happens, right Yoda?



No, it doesn't.  It only contradicts success tapping into the Light Side.


My opinion, those are true, true and false, but all debatable since exposition is such an open-ended word.

The First Order arose from the ashes of the Empire following the Galactic Civil War.  So there's actually more exposition in TFA on this topic.



True, ANH did reveal this, but certainly you can't hold it against TFA that TFA did not reveal it since it had already been revealed.  But to do tit-for-tat, in TFA, we learn important details about the galactic government that are not revealed in ANH, for instance its location.

Kylo Ren helped the First Order destroy the New Jedi.


The First Order is led by Snoke and during TFA, he gives the order to destroy the sitting galactic government.  I'd call this an equally "shaking up on government," wouldn't you?


There is no evidence of any star systems that are loyal to the First Order in TFA, thus, they are clearly not in controlling power of anything either.


Rather than get such a boring David and Goliath style story, we get a much more interesting three-pronged conflict in TFA:  An aggressive, well armed First Order that rules nothing, a wimpy, demilitarized Galactic Republic that rules everything, and a ragtag group of resistance fighters who have to hide their location from The First Order and their financial backing from the Senate. 



We know every bit as much about the Resistance as we did the Rebellion.  We know every bit as much about The First Order as we did about the Empire.  We can go fact for fact if you want.

Somebody want to explain how younglings are discovered to this guy?  Or what the purpose of the Inquisitors was? 

And if you want to go to Legends since a lot of you despise new canon, please explain to him how Palpatine was said to have accomplished all kinds of things with the Force before meeting Plagueis.  Or how Plagueis exhibited his powers by murdering a fellow classmate before becoming Tenebrous' apprentice.

I would've rebutted more of your reply, but it really didn't say anything substantive.  If you'd like to try again with some substance, I'll be happy to educate you on the other accurate points I made about how TFA expounds on the background of its story as much as ANH did.  This one about people not being able to use the Force was at least something I could respond to.

Did I say that someone could "have control" over the Force without training?  Fuck no.  I didn't.  So nice argument.  "It doesn't take training to use the Force," is what I said.  And then Ryboto said, "yes it does," and then when shown canon examples of his inaccuracy, he straw mans.  "Control" is what I meant, he said.

Please explain what Kylo did.

Disney modified canon in a bunch of ways.  What the fuck is your point?  That you don't want to accept it?  Tough shit.  I'm arguing canon and canon is what Disney says it is.  Furthermore, they did not alter canon in TFA.  They had already altered it in previous media to include psychometry, which is exactly what happened with Rey and Anakin's lightsaber.  Did the Force call to her as well?  Yep.  But then after that:  psychometry.

Your redundancy and gross generalization reveals you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.  I got news for you, Ryboto:  a bolt from a blaster is just light.  No one in SW has ever changed the path of light with their mind.  In fact, I can't think of any work of fiction where telekinesis was used as a means of changing the speed or direction of light.  In order to do so, one must manipulate either time or space.  And it's not as simple as "I did something because I manipulated the Force."  Legends and Canon both have broken Force-related powers into subcategories.  There's telepathy, telekinesis, force lightning, mind tricks, illusions, visions, psychometry, psychokinesis and many more.  All different ways of manipulating matter.  I suggest reading Book of Sith and The Jedi Path so that you won't talk out of your ass anymore about this stuff.

Future post by Ryboto:

How you can manipulate water by manipulating water.

(The rest of us call it "swimming," dude)