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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 21:31:47 GMT
Obviously, the white walker vs Westeros showdown is inevitable. It will happen in a epic battle of ice and fire. But I feel like that since season 1, the show has been building itself for the Targaryen/Lannister conflict of who will sit upon the Iron Throne. I'm a little concerned that in a season with just 6 episodes, that the entire season will just focus on the White Walkers and their invasion upon Westeros while completely brushing over the Iron Throne conflict which has been building since season 1. As much as I love the White Walker sequences and the entire north storyline, I'll be very disappointed if the writers make it the sole focus for the finale season. Do you guys think that the WW threat will take up the entire season or will we also see the ultimate showdown for the Iron Throne? Preferably, I would want the first three episodes of S8 to focus on the White Walkers and the final three to address the Iron Throne situation/conflict.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 15, 2017 21:59:50 GMT
I do also like it the way you like (3, 3 split on both the issues) but I fear that Night King may be dealt in the 5th episode only and so there will be a lot less time to see the "game of thrones" issue. Ideally, last two seasons should have been 10-10 episodes long to provide for a good conclusion. Pretty much everyone knows that they are rushing.
Or is it because they intend to kill some major characters while in the battle for dawn? I do like them to kill Dany and Jon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 22:10:07 GMT
I do also like it the way you like (3, 3 split on both the issues) but I fear that Night King may be dealt in the 5th episode only and so there will be a lot less time to see the "game of thrones" issue. Ideally, last two seasons should have been 10-10 episodes long to provide for a good conclusion. Pretty much everyone knows that they are rushing. Or is it because they intend to kill some major characters while in the battle for dawn? I do like them to kill Dany and Jon. Yeah, I really hope the Nigh King isn't dealt in the penultimate. I'm really curious how D&D are going to balance everything. Maybe they'll deal with both if the episode is 2-3 hours long....
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 16, 2017 3:16:31 GMT
They will give fools what they want. Look up the most popular theories and you'll have your script for the final season.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 16, 2017 23:42:54 GMT
I have a feeling last deal battle won't be with WW but with cersei Kings Landing , they will use up all their armies fighting the WW north will win the war against them but they will suffer loses Dany will die at battle ,and then the big war will be with the lanasters cersei
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Post by Ad○rably Obn○xi○us🐢 on Sept 17, 2017 3:22:23 GMT
Maybe during the season the question of who will be sitting on the Iron Throne at the end will be answered via the battle against the WW: ie one of the two main rivals (Cersei vs. Dani) will be killed. OR...maybe they'll both be killed and someone completely unexpected will end up there. I like that idea!
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Post by bluerisk on Sept 17, 2017 3:37:30 GMT
They will give fools what they want. Look up the most popular theories and you'll have your script for the final season. Cercei dies a horrible death by the hands of Arya?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 17, 2017 4:18:00 GMT
They will give fools what they want. Look up the most popular theories and you'll have your script for the final season. Cercei dies a horrible death by the hands of Arya? Yes, it's the dumbest one.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 17, 2017 4:25:22 GMT
They will give fools what they want. Look up the most popular theories and you'll have your script for the final season. Cercei dies a horrible death by the hands of Arya? At the moment Arya is the most powerful person in the entire Continent. She could control an entire army. She might even kill Cersei (and take her face) and command her army to march north and that reinforcement might win humans the battle at the last moment. I will like that, sir.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 17, 2017 19:28:46 GMT
I have a bad feeling if arya dies it will be in jons hands but will be accidental , if she kills an enemy of theirs and wears their face and Jon Doesn't know and kills her then removing her face to see it was arya he killed , maybe I'm reading too much into this but Sansa did tell arya , " when Jon sees you his heart will stop " GRMM and Alfie did say the ending will have a very Star Wars like ending.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 18, 2017 2:10:05 GMT
GRMM and Alfie did say the ending will have a very Star Wars like ending. Why am I not surprised that GRRM not only refers to that pile of crap but brings his own work in comparison with it? I'll admit not to know what "a Star Wars ending" means. I'll have to look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 4:52:32 GMT
I have a feeling last deal battle won't be with WW but with cersei Kings Landing , they will use up all their armies fighting the WW north will win the war against them but they will suffer loses Dany will die at battle ,and then the big war will be with the lanasters cersei I hope it plays out along those lines
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 0:15:59 GMT
GRMM and Alfie did say the ending will have a very Star Wars like ending. Why am I not surprised that GRRM not only refers to that pile of crap but brings his own work in comparison with it? I'll admit not to know what "a Star Wars ending" means. I'll have to look it up. Leo the most popular Star Wars ending is the one of a son kills his father without knowing it's his father. Luke skywalker was the son and darth Vader was the dad (before he became dark and evil he was known as Anakin ) another tragic Star Wars ending was going back to Anakin and his love of life padme played by Natalie Portman anyway Anakin after they married he went mad , padme was pregnant with twins, Anakin tried to strangle padme after losing his mind and a dying padme gave birth to twins Luke and Leia , padme died,Anakin fell into lava burned himself beyond regocnition he was saved by the enemy and they turned him into this thing dark darth Vader,the twins were separated after their birth and raised by different families .years later when they met they didn't know they were brother and sister and kissed.but they didn't up together .they eventually found out they were twins if I got anything wrong Star Wars fans correct me . padme funeral this could be danys funeral too
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 0:22:28 GMT
I have a feeling last deal battle won't be with WW but with cersei Kings Landing , they will use up all their armies fighting the WW north will win the war against them but they will suffer loses Dany will die at battle ,and then the big war will be with the lanasters cersei I hope it plays out along those lines I just have this believe the show stated with Starks vs lannisters they would end it like that and cersei is not going anywhere , GRMM has stated families based on war of roses so I rather see it end with a realistic battle rather than a zombie one lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 1:06:59 GMT
I hope it plays out along those lines I just have this believe the show stated with Starks vs lannisters they would end it like that and cersei is not going anywhere , GRMM has stated families based on war of roses so I rather see it end with a realistic battle rather than a zombie one lol That's a good point. I just hope D&D acknowledges it. I wonder how much help from GRRM they have. Cersei is certainly here for the long run. I found it funny how everyone was so sure that she was a goner in season 7.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2017 3:04:25 GMT
I just have this believe the show stated with Starks vs lannisters they would end it like that and cersei is not going anywhere , GRMM has stated families based on war of roses so I rather see it end with a realistic battle rather than a zombie one lol That's a good point. I just hope D&D acknowledges it. I wonder how much help from GRRM they have. Cersei is certainly here for the long run. I found it funny how everyone was so sure that she was a goner in season 7. It's not funny, it is Global Stupidity. This is why I think D&D dumbed down on purpose. Over 90% of the show's audience keeps biting on the same bait. They never learn that the show is pulling plot twists on them and that the one they see coming is almost never the one they get.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 17:08:51 GMT
And everyone thinks cersei will miscarry while in the books it is Dany who does or gets her moon blood, If Dany ends up pregnant too and the witch curse is broken why can't cersei??? And it isn't ironic the battle of two queens both had a witch curse ,The Maggy told a young cersei you will marry a king and have three kids- but cersei had 4 kids , her first boy who was Roberts baratheons son died, I think Tyrion knowing his sister is pregnant may start having a change of heart who to support
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 19:01:37 GMT
And everyone thinks cersei will miscarry while in the books it is Dany who does or gets her moon blood, If Dany ends up pregnant too and the witch curse is broken why can't cersei??? And it isn't ironic the battle of two queens both had a witch curse ,The Maggy told a young cersei you will marry a king and have three kids- but cersei had 4 kids , her first boy who was Roberts baratheons son died, I think Tyrion knowing his sister is pregnant may start having a change of heart who to support Do you think Tyrion might betray Dany in S8? I'm beginning to think that he might, we really have no idea how the rest of their conversation went in the S7 finale.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 22:49:29 GMT
And everyone thinks cersei will miscarry while in the books it is Dany who does or gets her moon blood, If Dany ends up pregnant too and the witch curse is broken why can't cersei??? And it isn't ironic the battle of two queens both had a witch curse ,The Maggy told a young cersei you will marry a king and have three kids- but cersei had 4 kids , her first boy who was Roberts baratheons son died, I think Tyrion knowing his sister is pregnant may start having a change of heart who to support Do you think Tyrion might betray Dany in S8? I'm beginning to think that he might, we really have no idea how the rest of their conversation went in the S7 finale. I do , and Tyrions angry facial expression when Jon went to Danys cabin made me think more how Tyrion may betray Dany , Tyrion looks frustrated with her. She threw all their hard work away and lost a dragon for Jon , Tyrion didn't like it. At the dragonstone table when Jon convinced Dany to join him and sail north you can see how uneasy Tyrion was. it's no secret Tyrion and cersei don't like each other , but you see even when cersei had a chance to kill her little brother she didn't no matter how much she hates him and vice versa sometimes blood is thicker than water. Knowing now his sister is carrying an air and Dany being difficult to even discuss who will succeed her Tyrion may very well made a deal with cersei , no matter what Tyrion loved his nieces and nephews except for Joffrey but he cared for them and even tried to teach Joffrey a few manners , if anyhting can make him betray Dany I think it's a new Lannister baby .
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2017 23:21:52 GMT
Do you think Tyrion might betray Dany in S8? I'm beginning to think that he might, we really have no idea how the rest of their conversation went in the S7 finale. I do , and Tyrions angry facial expression when Jon went to Danys cabin made me think more how Tyrion may betray Dany , Tyrion looks frustrated with her. She threw all their hard work away and lost a dragon for Jon , Tyrion didn't like it. At the dragonstone table when Jon convinced Dany to join him and sail north you can see how uneasy Tyrion was. it's no secret Tyrion and cersei don't like each other , but you see even when cersei had a chance to kill her little brother she didn't no matter how much she hates him and vice versa sometimes blood is thicker than water. Knowing now his sister is carrying an air and Dany being difficult to even discuss who will succeed her Tyrion may very well made a deal with cersei , no matter what Tyrion loved his nieces and nephews except for Joffrey but he cared for them and even tried to teach Joffrey a few manners , if anyhting can make him betray Dany I think it's a new Lannister baby . Tyrion will see the light
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