|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 11, 2018 17:28:21 GMT
Shot in the arm for Oz getting the draw, good news, not just for them, but for test cricket in general.
|
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Oct 12, 2018 1:36:47 GMT
@hitchcockthelegen
I’m over the whole “Test Cricket is Dying and requires change” rubbish. And the fact that home sides have distinct advantages holds true back to 1877. Australia’s last tour to India had 4 absorbing Tests. Pakistan defeated England in England. New Zealand play at a consistent level across all formats in all conditions. Virtually all occasions when the home team has dominated is because the away side has played completely shit house. Like Australia did on their last tour to Sri Lanka. Why are changing something that has worked for almost 150 years ? Because a few touring sides are totally ill prepared for the conditions or are simply not good enough ?
What will kill off Test Cricket (like ODI’s previously) is endless meaningless money grabbing tournaments and when they start getting so homogeneous that individual games start blending into each other, or the stupidity and corruption of the ICC.
|
|
|
|
Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 12, 2018 3:32:55 GMT
Yeah, and Australia proved on Boxing Day 2010 v England and Hobart v South Africa that you don't have to be a visiting team to be utterly unprepared for conditions and have that exploited by skilled opponents with the end result being complete humiliation.
One of the great things about test cricket is that a Sri Lankan team who can barely fetch 200 over two innings away can be 5-27 and win a test at home.
It's the same in other sports: the Freo Dockers routinely embarrass themselves on the road, but every year will have absolute barn burners at home against top 8 teams.
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 12, 2018 14:54:53 GMT
West Indies has put a fairly decent effort so far in the first innings. Hope they get 400 and a 100 runs lead by getting India cheaply. India could then be put in trouble.
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 13, 2018 5:17:43 GMT
Just to confirm a rule from other members here.
When I was a child I thought the rule was that if Wicket keeper gets injured then a substitute can't keep. Only 1 of the playing 11 can keep.
In India-WI match that is going on Dorwich got injured but cricinfo mentions that:
So my belief is wrong? They allow even subs to keep the wicket in case the main keeper gets injured?
|
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Oct 13, 2018 6:31:46 GMT
Just to confirm a rule from other members here. When I was a child I thought the rule was that if Wicket keeper gets injured then a substitute can't keep. Only 1 of the playing 11 can keep. In India-WI match that is going on Dorwich got injured but cricinfo mentions that: So my belief is wrong? They allow even subs to keep the wicket in case the main keeper gets injured? Yes. But only with the consent of the umpires. 24.1 SUBSTITUTE FIELDERS
24.1.1 The umpires shall allow a substitute fielder
24.1.1.1 if they are satisfied that a fielder has been injured or become ill and that this occurred during the match, or
24.1.1.2 for any other wholly acceptable reason.
In all other circumstances, a substitute is not allowed.
24.1.2 A substitute shall not bowl or act as captain but may act as wicket-keeper only with the consent of the umpires. Note, however, Law 42.7.1 (Additional points relating to Level 3 and Level 4 offences).
24.1.3 A nominated player may bowl or field even though a substitute has previously acted for him/her, subject to 24.2, 24.3 and Law 42.4 (Level 3 offences and action by umpires).This law has been changed since at least 2000, and previously it was both the permission of the batting captain and umpires. The law forbidding substitutes as keepers was never introduced into first class cricket. At around the same time as substitute fielders were first allowed, for obvious reasons, There was a feeling that a side could select a batsman to bat 7, then be substituted by a keeper whose batting is far inferior. That’s where the ‘can’t substitute a keeper’ myth started. Famously, there was a game where England used 4 keepers in a Test in 1986: www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/129082.html |
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 13, 2018 6:57:43 GMT
Thanks, Bob! For answering the question clearly and for the extra infos.
|
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 13, 2018 9:15:36 GMT
England propelled by Warwickshire Bears pace power! Go on boys!
Rain on the way...
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 13, 2018 9:27:50 GMT
England propelled by Warwickshire Bears pace power! Go on boys! Rain on the way... England scoring less than 300 runs in an ODI game is an increasingly rare sight. Woakes had both his 5-for in ODIs in first half of his career but has been slightly more consistent in last 10 games. Should be an important part of England's ODI team in WC. Bowling is probably not their strongest point these days in ODIs. |
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 13, 2018 12:08:59 GMT
So Lasith Malinga is still alive and kicking?
5 wickets against England! Woah! Roll back the years.
|
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 13, 2018 16:35:08 GMT
England propelled by Warwickshire Bears pace power! Go on boys! Rain on the way... England scoring less than 300 runs in an ODI game is an increasingly rare sight. Woakes had both his 5-for in ODIs in first half of his career but has been slightly more consistent in last 10 games. Should be an important part of England's ODI team in WC. Bowling is probably not their strongest point these days in ODIs. Woakes is a very important cog in England's ODI plans, he has become very much the reliable go to guy. He has had a number of frustrating injuries this last couple of years which has stymied his international career. Arguably not a test bowler abroad, but still big room for him in home test series. Interestingly his pace has come down a touch at the moment, which may be the way to go for him now, seems he is being asked for accuracy over pace and it's working. Olly Stone all the rage on British TV, talk of getting him signed up on central contract ASAP. No surprise to us here in Birmingham, but some tempering of expectation is badly needed! We are now waiting to see with great hope that fast bowler Henry Brookes recovers from his bad injury, for if he does he looks an England player in waiting, another off the Edgbaston conveyor belt. Maybe some hope in the post Anderson/Broad years... |
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 13, 2018 16:40:33 GMT
Good on you Roston Chase, wont mean diddly in the context of the match, but a great hundred, stood up to be counted for the Windies.
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 14, 2018 6:30:35 GMT
Good on you Roston Chase, wont mean diddly in the context of the match, but a great hundred, stood up to be counted for the Windies. His innings was indeed very well constructed and special but if WI can repeat their first innings performance then we will have a match on our hands. So far WI has been pretty good with both the ball and the bat. |
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 14, 2018 18:49:39 GMT
Second Test, Hyderabad (day three) West Indies 311 (Chase 106; Umesh 6-88) & 127 (Ambris 38; Umesh 4-45) India 367 (Pant 92; Holder 5-56) & 75-0 India won by 10 wickets; won series 2-0 Is there anybody remotely surprised by how this day 3 panned out?  |
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Oct 15, 2018 4:40:19 GMT
Second Test, Hyderabad (day three) West Indies 311 (Chase 106; Umesh 6-88) & 127 (Ambris 38; Umesh 4-45) India 367 (Pant 92; Holder 5-56) & 75-0 India won by 10 wickets; won series 2-0 Is there anybody remotely surprised by how this day 3 panned out? I’m a bit surprised - When I saw the single line score I thought Ashwin and Jadeja had done their thing, but no - Umesh took 4 and 10 for the match. Like most teams in that lower echelon, where the Windies are really letting themselves down is they can’t bat out two good innings. Another 311 in the second knock and ALL the pressure is on India. The bloke I feel really sorry for is Jason Holder - like Darren Sammy before him, he seems to have the entire team on his shoulders like Atlas. |
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 15, 2018 10:58:09 GMT
To our Australian Posters - Bob and Tafe - Guys I am going back to India on 26th October. My stay in Australia (since July 2014) was totally without any problem. I am a permanent resident so I can return later but I thought I needed a change in scenario and more buzz. I believe Indian market is more competitive and has more opportunity in my field so it is worth a try. Overall, I do say Australia is a very nice country and full of great people. From my experience of 4 years I do say Australia is one of the best places to live and offers a peaceful life and opportunities for every kind of people.
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 16, 2018 8:27:38 GMT
Australia has a big chance to take command of the match. 77/5
Edit: Recovery by Pakistan and this annoying partnership is ruining the match for Australians. Come on Lyon!
|
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 16, 2018 11:36:12 GMT
Australia has a big chance to take command of the match. 77/5
Edit: Recovery by Pakistan and this annoying partnership is ruining the match for Australians. Come on Lyon!
Was 57 for 5, they lost 4 wickets for 0 runs, I wonder if that was a hat-trick? 237 for 7 now, interestingly poised. |
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 16, 2018 13:21:26 GMT
Australia has a big chance to take command of the match. 77/5
Edit: Recovery by Pakistan and this annoying partnership is ruining the match for Australians. Come on Lyon!
Was 57 for 5, they lost 4 wickets for 0 runs, I wonder if that was a hat-trick? 237 for 7 now, interestingly poised. Lyon took 4 wickets in 6 balls but no hat-trick involved.
Pak 282 Aus 20/2
Must say Australia shouldn't have let Pakistan get back in the game. Even 282 was possible because of a part-time (Labuschagne). They will have to bat like they did in the 2nd innings of last match but at the moment it seems Pakistan is in better position.
Current Betting odds Pakistan 4/7 Draw 10/1 Australia 2/1
|
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Oct 17, 2018 8:17:02 GMT
Seems like the pattern of play is like that Australia had in last few years. They start a match well and often seem to be on top and then lose the grip. It seems the match will be over on the 3rd day itself.
|
|
