|
Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 7, 2020 15:12:32 GMT
England win by 189 runs with 50 balls remaining. Last wicket of Philander falls to Stokes.
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 7, 2020 19:17:46 GMT
1. Who said that 5 day test cricket is dead?
2. de Kock should replace the K in his name with a C, Saffers were so comfortable until his brain fart
3. Didn't think I would ever be saying this but Root captained superbly today - aided no end by van der Dussen brain fart 2
4. England's first win at Newlands since 57
5.Sibley superb, acknowledged by his team mates, he dug in for a 100 and allowed the middle order the freedom to score quickly to set up the win. When Burns gets fit, could England finally have found 2 openers who mentally can occupy the crease for long periods in the old fashioned way?
6 to 100. Then there's Stokes, I'm sure he's from Krypton. It gets forgotten just what a fast bowler he is when he's fit, an absolute game changer with bat, ball or catches, ref: Botham, Flintoff and now Stokes. England would be in right lumber without him in the side.
101. Liking the look of Pope again, very much in the Ian Bell mould, wonder how long it will be before he ends up at number 3?
102. Bob will like this, Alec Stewart questioning why Buttler with his under 30 average is ahead of Foakes who averages 42?
103. I like Nortje for Saffers, very quick, needs to step up alongside Rabada now Big Vern has retired. du Plessis needs a score, he got Root's captaincy curse at the moment
104. Series set up a treat now, long live test cricket!
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Jan 7, 2020 23:12:11 GMT
hitchcockthelegend1. The ECB would still think it is. 4 day tests aren’t about Tests per se. It’s about making the schedule easier. 2. Not the cleverest of shots, but vd Dussen’s was worse. 3. Root captained well, helps when you do have a bit of a golden arm in Stokes. He is still rather clueless setting a field when a spinner is bowling though. Constantly changing ball after ball helps tye batsman, not the bowler. 5. I think Burns and Sibley could work. Sibley has to be careful though - he’s not the best runner between wickets and isn’t a good ‘drop and run for one’ player. These sort of players tend to get really bogged down sometimes, and worse, end up as the 3rd wicket in a mini collapse. 120-1 becomes 130-4 with 2 new batsmen and the opener who’s been plodding along for 30 off 130 balls looks like a goose. Burns has 1 distinct flaw in his batting - he is a bat twirler. Sometimes instead of the full face, straight bat - it swings from third man and at an angle. In English conditions this works because the ball moves either past the edge or into the middle of the blade. In RSA and Aus - you’ll more than likely nick one. In Asia - bat/pad becomes even more likely. That being said, both Lara and Amla used to do it too. 6-100. He’s making a case for being the greatest golden bollocks of all time. He’s definitely a better bat than Botham or Flintoff. His bowling is more effort than skill though. But to mangle a Gary Player saying, the more effort you bowl with, the luckier you get. 101. Pope is a good 6 at the moment. Leave him there. 102. It’s a good question. Buttler is serviceable with the gauntlets, but he’s picked for his batting. Foakes seems to be better with both in Test Cricket conditions. 103. He’s not the worst Nortje. Looks a bit straight up and down. Let’s see how he goes in Asia - he might become gun barrel military medium in those conditions. 104. Agreed !
|
|
|
Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 7, 2020 23:27:48 GMT
I couldn't believe (well tbh I could believe but just found OTT) the mauling England received from everyone for losing the first test by 107 runs. It was a competitive game for most of its duration. England bowled well in both innings and 107 runs, in a test match, is hardly an all time shellacking. Yes, they were outplayed over 4 innings, but it's not like they played like a rabble (NZ at the MCG for instance) the whole way. They bowled well in both innings and I'm not in the least surprised that they bowled well again, batted better, and won the second game.
|
|
|
Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 8, 2020 12:42:49 GMT
|
|
|
Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 8, 2020 17:31:26 GMT
Mark Butcher spoke on this and the effect losing a day had on county cricket.
"You need to remember that in county games, quick play in the first innings is incentivised by tbe points system, but even there, even though you don't lose that many overs, you get more draws. It's because it's easier to play for a draw earlier in the game if there's fewer days. Only way past it is risky declarations, which won't happen in tests."
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 9, 2020 18:12:45 GMT
hitchcockthelegend 1. The ECB would still think it is. 4 day tests aren’t about Tests per se. It’s about making the schedule easier. 2. Not the cleverest of shots, but vd Dussen’s was worse. 3. Root captained well, helps when you do have a bit of a golden arm in Stokes. He is still rather clueless setting a field when a spinner is bowling though. Constantly changing ball after ball helps tye batsman, not the bowler. 5. I think Burns and Sibley could work. Sibley has to be careful though - he’s not the best runner between wickets and isn’t a good ‘drop and run for one’ player. These sort of players tend to get really bogged down sometimes, and worse, end up as the 3rd wicket in a mini collapse. 120-1 becomes 130-4 with 2 new batsmen and the opener who’s been plodding along for 30 off 130 balls looks like a goose. Burns has 1 distinct flaw in his batting - he is a bat twirler. Sometimes instead of the full face, straight bat - it swings from third man and at an angle. In English conditions this works because the ball moves either past the edge or into the middle of the blade. In RSA and Aus - you’ll more than likely nick one. In Asia - bat/pad becomes even more likely. That being said, both Lara and Amla used to do it too. 6-100. He’s making a case for being the greatest golden bollocks of all time. He’s definitely a better bat than Botham or Flintoff. His bowling is more effort than skill though. But to mangle a Gary Player saying, the more effort you bowl with, the luckier you get. 101. Pope is a good 6 at the moment. Leave him there. 102. It’s a good question. Buttler is serviceable with the gauntlets, but he’s picked for his batting. Foakes seems to be better with both in Test Cricket conditions. 103. He’s not the worst Nortje. Looks a bit straight up and down. Let’s see how he goes in Asia - he might become gun barrel military medium in those conditions. 104. Agreed ! 1. But no test player wants it 2. Agreed, you actually couldn't make it up. Jimmy ran past him and perched at leg slip, Broad bowled for it and he played it! Pollock tried to defend it by saying you have to play that ball - I disagree with the ginger wonder, you let it hit your thigh pad - simples! 3. Not in this match, he made the good calls - called the man up and snared du Plesis. 5. Yep, but we are talking about fledgling test openers here, with the right coaching, it could be solid enough. 6 - 100. Without doubt he's a better bat than Beefy and Freddy, in fact with Root so up and down with his form he's probably England's best batsman at the moment! His bowling? Yer a little unkind, it's not just effort, he managed to reverse it at 90mph on a flat track - big effort of course is his forte, but he has skills as a bowler when his dicky knee allows. 101. Oh I'm with you, Pope at 6 for me, but it will come, when Denly fails etc, Pope will be batting at 3 in within two years - less Crawley becomes the player England are expecting him to be... 102. I'm afraid that unless Buttler starts making the big scores in red ball cricket he's not worth his place in the test side - Foakes has done nothing wrong and is clearly the better gloves man of the 3 keepers England toy with.
|
|
|
Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 10, 2020 17:45:10 GMT
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 11, 2020 17:44:11 GMT
West Indies v Ireland: Hosts edge Barbados thriller to win series - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51056129In a dramatic final over Ireland wasted two run-out chances before Sheldon Cottrell won it with a six off the penultimate ball to make it 2-0.
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Jan 12, 2020 10:05:04 GMT
Marcus Stoinis smashes 147* for the Melbourne Stars against the Sixers. A few fluky shots, but some really good batting.
|
|
|
Post by Aj_June on Jan 14, 2020 19:00:31 GMT
My prediction that Australia will totally annihilate India has come true as India were beaten brutally in the first ODI. Once again my cricket comes true to the word.
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 14, 2020 19:54:07 GMT
My prediction that Australia will totally annihilate India has come true as India were beaten brutally in the first ODI. Once again my cricket comes true to the word. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51108772Top of the football tourney, cricket predictions spot on - Nostradamus A.J.
|
|
|
Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 15, 2020 15:35:09 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 16, 2020 10:07:20 GMT
27th over: England 61-0 (Crawley 20, Sibley 30) That’s lunch. I’m not certain, because I’m not, but I think this is the first time since the Oval Test against India in 2011 that England have batted through the first session of a Test without losing a wicket. Nine years, man!
Zak Crawley and Dom Sibley played with patience and commonsense on a very slow pitch, and their partnership has given England a great chance to take control of this match in the first innings. South Africa need reverse swing, and fast.
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 16, 2020 23:39:08 GMT
South Africa v England: Ben Stokes and Ollie Pope give tourists edge - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51133976Strange pitch, looked a flat track with the new ball, then it started to do weird things, even turning - on the first day! I'm glad as an England fan we shouldn't be batting last on this one...
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 17, 2020 11:39:14 GMT
|
|
|
Post by weststigersbob on Jan 17, 2020 11:46:35 GMT
Absolute stupidity from Rabada. India cruise to 340/6 off their 50 overs. Australia are about 3/1 to chase it down despite the pitch being quite flat.
|
|
|
Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 17, 2020 19:10:36 GMT
Personally, I think Pope becoming England's youngest centurion since Sir Alistair, Buttler's 0, and two wickets to Bess were all more important than anything Stokes and Serial Brat did.
Back to earth with a thud for Australia, demonstrating once again how dependant the batting is on Finch and Warner, particularly when the bowlers aren't on top. Will be interesting to see who wins this series from here.
|
|
|
Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 17, 2020 20:55:25 GMT
Personally, I think Pope becoming England's youngest centurion since Sir Alistair, Buttler's 0, and two wickets to Bess were all more important than anything Stokes and Serial Brat did. Back to earth with a thud for Australia, demonstrating once again how dependant the batting is on Finch and Warner, particularly when the bowlers aren't on top. Will be interesting to see who wins this series from here. It's quite simple now, Buttler has to score a 100 at Jo'burg or he doesn't go to Sri-Lanka. Foakes surely gets his red ball place now anyway, but if he gets a ton then maybe he can be second choice keeper/batsman - and even that's dependant on Bairstow not rediscovering red ball form... Rabada, this occasion actually wasn't too bad exactly, though it's being suggested he may already have been warned behind the scenes for something earlier involving Crawley, which would explain why no appeal. But his discipline record is terrible, how long can we keep saying he has to learn quickly.... India - Oz match was a cracker though, that's a series to watch for sure.
|
|
|
Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 17, 2020 21:08:52 GMT
It was a good game for sure, but the overseas test formula (openers do nothing, Smith or Labuschagne bat for long periods and we get a good total) doesn't work in ODIs. When Warner and Finch both fail, those two can't bail us out the way they do in tests. The key to beating Australia remains, as ever, getting both openers early.
|
|