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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 18, 2020 10:02:57 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 18, 2020 10:13:13 GMT
Ooh Jim Laker wannabe....
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 18, 2020 10:36:11 GMT
Ooh Jim Laker wannabe.... Hee, if it stops raining and he gets the next 2, it's on!
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 18, 2020 11:21:50 GMT
Predicting rain for the next 5 days. Pretty tough to see a result though, to be fair, 6 hours of cricket should do it. Pretty feeble batting performance from Saffers.
There's a chart of the youngest English spinners to take 5 in an innings. Derek Underwood is on it 6 times in the first 15 or 20 entries while the secomd half is dominated by Monty Panesar. Oh how England would love Bess to be anywhere near those two, Derek in particular but Monty isn't a terrible one either, by the end of his career.
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 18, 2020 11:56:58 GMT
Haven't seen much of Bess but just checked on cricinfo that he is only 22. So here's a hoping England can get a spinner who can stick around for a while.
Didn't get to see either of the 2 ODIS between Ind & Aus. Will get loads of time on Sunday though. Hopefully we get a good game.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 18, 2020 12:08:50 GMT
Predicting rain for the next 5 days. Pretty tough to see a result though, to be fair, 6 hours of cricket should do it. Pretty feeble batting performance from Saffers. There's a chart of the youngest English spinners to take 5 in an innings. Derek Underwood is on it 6 times in the first 15 or 20 entries while the secomd half is dominated by Monty Panesar. Oh how England would love Bess to be anywhere near those two, Derek in particular but Monty isn't a terrible one either, by the end of his career. Hoping he’s up to the standard of Deadly Derek is a tad unfair. Panesar was one of many English players whose career got royally screwed by ridiculous selection policies.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 19, 2020 11:36:28 GMT
England nab last four SA wickets this morning for 1 run in 26 minutes!
Enforce the follow on.
SA 15-0. Sadly rain has stopped play.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 19, 2020 17:11:53 GMT
India flatten Australia to take the series. Chasing 286. India reached 3-289 with 15 balls to spare. Same old story. Finch and Warner scored just 22 between them and, despite the brilliance of Smith (131) and Labuschagne (54) Oz couldn't get enough runs to challenge India. A hundred from Sharma and 89 from Kohli ensuring no other result was ever on the cards.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 19, 2020 17:14:29 GMT
And Joe Root the destroyer with 4 wickets as England finish day 4 needing just 4 wickets to take a series lead.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 19, 2020 18:44:44 GMT
It's in this thread somewhere where I say Root under values himself as a spin option. I also raised the point that Stokes has a poor record of catches against spinners, another 3 in this match as well. That's his Kryptonite No such problem for Pope, what a short leg he is proving to be - those Bell comparisons keep mounting up... Elsewhere Zimbers V Lanka - First Test - Harare www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO47820
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 20, 2020 0:22:51 GMT
Some really old school knocks up front by the Zimbabweans there, although without Murali or Herath, Vaas or Malinga SL does have a mediocre attack.
Australia once again gets found out by not having a middle order. Ashton Turner isn’t the answer. It wasn’t that long ago the bloke scored 6 ducks in a row. Australia has so many “hit and miss” white ball batsmen floating around that it’s hard to tell who to pick. D’arcy Short, Chris Lynn, Ben McDermott, Sam Heazlett, Marcus Stoinis, Hilton Cartwright, even Matt Renshaw, they’ve all played outstanding knocks in BBL and List A ODI’s this summer but it’s all been 1 good knock, 2 bad ones. And of course the usual suspects - Marsh, Marsh, Khawaja, Wade, Maxwell - who’ve all had long stints in the national team without reaching any great heights. Carey is worth persevering with, but Agar isn’t an all rounder, neither is Starc and Cummins’ batting has fallen off a cliff. Once Labuschagne got out last night, you just knew Australia was cooked despite Smith trying his best to be both the anchor and the hitter.
The wheels have fallen off South Africa’s batting in a big way if Joe Root is taking 4 fors.
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 20, 2020 8:46:15 GMT
Some really old school knocks up front by the Zimbabweans there, although without Murali or Herath, Vaas or Malinga SL does have a mediocre attack. Australia once again gets found out by not having a middle order. Ashton Turner isn’t the answer. It wasn’t that long ago the bloke scored 6 ducks in a row. Australia has so many “hit and miss” white ball batsmen floating around that it’s hard to tell who to pick. D’arcy Short, Chris Lynn, Ben McDermott, Sam Heazlett, Marcus Stoinis, Hilton Cartwright, even Matt Renshaw, they’ve all played outstanding knocks in BBL and List A ODI’s this summer but it’s all been 1 good knock, 2 bad ones. And of course the usual suspects - Marsh, Marsh, Khawaja, Wade, Maxwell - who’ve all had long stints in the national team without reaching any great heights. Carey is worth persevering with, but Agar isn’t an all rounder, neither is Starc and Cummins’ batting has fallen off a cliff. Once Labuschagne got out last night, you just knew Australia was cooked despite Smith trying his best to be both the anchor and the hitter. The wheels have fallen off South Africa’s batting in a big way if Joe Root is taking 4 fors. Seems to me that at this point of time Australia vs India results will probably be related to the pitch they play on: Fast wickets - Australia will very likely win Bouncy Wicket - Australia will very likely win Spinning track - India will likely win Flat Track - Aussies will win Seaming wicket - India might have 51% chance to Australia's 49% The 3rd ODI pitch offered a bit of assistance to spinners which helped India restrict Aussies to manageable total. Although Australian spinners bowled well, the faster ones went for some runs and 6th alternative didn't work.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Jan 20, 2020 19:06:03 GMT
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 20, 2020 20:05:33 GMT
Personally, I'd back India on anything other than fast and bouncy, and I don't think they're helpless on that either.
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 20, 2020 22:49:52 GMT
Meanwhile I forgot to point out that Ireland recently won a game.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 23, 2020 2:26:05 GMT
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 23, 2020 2:57:37 GMT
I remember Carl Rackemann starting with 5 maidens against Pakistan in an ODI, then Wasim Akram got going and took him for a run a ball from there.
And I was at the SCG when Phil Simmons finished with the figures of 10 overs, 8 Maidens, 3 runs, 4 wickets. Ruined a good game of cricket after the West Indies scrambled to 9-214 in their batting innings. Pakistan were out to lunch from there. Some beautiful seam bowling from Simmons though.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 23, 2020 3:18:25 GMT
I remember Carl Rackemann starting with 5 maidens against Pakistan in an ODI, then Wasim Akram got going and took him for a run a ball from there. And I was at the SCG when Phil Simmons finished with the figures of 10 overs, 8 Maidens, 3 runs, 4 wickets. Ruined a good game of cricket after the West Indies scrambled to 9-214 in their batting innings. Pakistan were out to lunch from there. Some beautiful seam bowling from Simmons though. I remember that Simmons game. It’s one of those games involving Pakistan that now you sort of go “hmmmmmmm, maybe” whenever you think of match fixing. www.espncricinfo.com/series/8531/scorecard/65500/pakistan-vs-west-indies-8th-match-benson-&-hedges-world-series-1992-93
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 23, 2020 3:20:07 GMT
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 23, 2020 3:25:53 GMT
The game from that series that really stood out so far as potential fixing goes was the one at Adelaide between West Indies and Pakistan. Pakistan reached 1-about 120 chasing 170 odd and lost by 4 runs including 5 run outs. Their next game out after the Simmons match was at Brisbane where they fetched just 71 runs, 10 fewer than the Sydney game.
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