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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 7:20:54 GMT
Australia all out 155 - England need 271 to win. Wood takes 6/37. It’s about 50-50. If England gets a good start, then Australia will start getting nervous. Let's pretend England aren't England. Lawrence is the key. Attacking opener blazes away and reduces the target quickly then there's a chance. But we all know he'll score 10-30 at a run a ball and get out, with Burns probably getting out in the interim and the game's already just about gone.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 16, 2022 8:21:03 GMT
0-56 - England are favourites from here.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 8:42:24 GMT
1-68. Australia on top, but England with hope.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 9:26:15 GMT
Both wickets lost to Green. Just not good enough to fall to the 4th pace option. Haven't done the basics right all series and following that through to the very death.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 10:22:08 GMT
Root goes. Like every other England batter save Bairstow he's had a poor series.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 16, 2022 10:29:19 GMT
Strange old game - so many chop ons, leg side strangles and hook shots down the throat of fielders.
England need a Stokes / Beefy style escape from here. I don’t see it personally…..
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 16, 2022 11:04:18 GMT
Horrific collapse from England - 10/56. Only Root has any excuse getting a grubber.
Simply not good enough.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 16, 2022 11:33:23 GMT
Bookies have Australia at 66% with England and the draw both 17%. Unless there's a typhoon on the way, the draw should be 0% I think those odds were as at the start of play today/yesterday.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 17:30:01 GMT
England lost the game on Day One. 303 was twice as much as Australia should have got. 188 was far less than England should have scored. 7 players into double figures and their top score was 36.
But why dissect? England's batting is so horrible they were never going to compete in this series. I'll give their bowlers some credit as Anderson, Broad, Wood and Robinson all had their moments in this series, but even then, Australia put up 400+ in the first innings 3 times, a well over par 300 at Hobart and 267 was e nough for an innings win at Melbourne. A couple of 5 fers, Wood's in particular, are the only positives for England to take.
For the batting, nothing. They should probably persevere with Crawley, but until he scores some hundreds he's a question rather than an answer. Everyone else's reputation went down over the series.
For Australia, a lot of our batting wasn't much to write home about. Warner, Harris, Labuschagne, Carey, Green and Smith all had mediocre to poor series with the bat. Our bowling was excellent, but needs to be graded on some type of curve due to the meekness of the opposition.
Overall, one of the weakest Ashes series I can remember, and we've had plenty to pick from down under. Now almost 35 years since we've had a remotely competitive Ashes series here. Thank goodness for India and South Africa ensuring we do see some good test cricket here every couple of years.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 16, 2022 19:02:02 GMT
And laughing a bit at Ian Botham's rant. 'A lot of these guys are at the end of their careers..." Who?
Burns, Crawley, Malan, Root and Stokes will be England's top 5 for their next test. Pope, Lawrence or Bairstow will bat 6. Leach will play again. All their pace attack from this series will play again. So "a lot of these guys," by my count, is two people: Hameed and Buttler.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 17, 2022 22:46:17 GMT
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 18, 2022 2:01:46 GMT
Mine would be: Hameed: F Burns: F Crawley: C- Malan: D Root: C Stokes: C- Pope: F Bairstow: B (never give full marks based on 1 appearance) Buttler: F Billings: F Woakes: D- Robinson: C Wood: B Broad: C Anderson: C Leach: F
Australia Warner: C Harris: F Labuschagne: C+ Smith: C Head: A+ Green: B- Khawaja: B Carey: C Starc: A- Cummins: A+ Hazlewood: B Lyon: C+, maybe B Richardson: B Neser: B Boland: A
I think those ratings reflect my feelings that it wasn't much of a series. England were horrible. Australia weren't outstanding, apart from some sessions with the ball, but didn't need to be to defeat a very poor England team. A predictable, and quite dull, massacre.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 19, 2022 4:44:40 GMT
Just heard this on the radio (on a rerun of a John Peel show):
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 19, 2022 17:35:01 GMT
Some unbelievable happenings in the BBL yesterday. Cameron Boyce took 4 wickets in 4 balls for the Renegades against Sydney Thunder. They still lost a great game by 1 run though.
Then in the Stars game Glenn Maxwell hit 150 odd off about 60 balls as the team scored 2-273. They won by 106.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 19, 2022 18:09:16 GMT
Some unbelievable happenings in the BBL yesterday. Cameron Boyce took 4 wickets in 4 balls for the Renegades against Sydney Thunder. They still lost a great game by 1 run though. Then in the Stars game Glenn Maxwell hit 150 odd off about 60 balls as the team scored 2-273. They won by 106. Some absolute buffet bowling served to Maxy and Stoin by the Hurricanes though. The Renegades are approaching Richmond levels of fuckery with their ability to lose games in winning positions. Karma I suppose though is still due for that championship win against the Stars…. South Africa franked some good Test form with a good ODI win against India.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 19, 2022 18:42:27 GMT
Bavuma a 90s style hundred off 143 balls. Thakur made 50 off 43 balls: for someone who's official status is "handy utility" he's having some sort of start to his career.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 22, 2022 20:59:23 GMT
The torture continues for England fans: currently 7-49 12 overs into the 1st T20I vs the West Indies.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jan 23, 2022 6:41:10 GMT
I wish people in the Caribbean look at Jason Holder and think - he’s the bloke we ought to be emulating. Instead they look at Gayle, Bravo and Russell and players of their ilk and try to copy them. Talented for sure - but technically deficient, lacking thought and nous and ultimately go for the flash and show rather than the grind and work. The Windies so badly need another Clive Lloyd……
England - I think it was just one of those days. Every single time they looked to up the ante, it was boundary, then out. A suicidal stumping and run out at 4 and 5 for not many didn’t help either……
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 23, 2022 7:22:36 GMT
Bloody hell, Holder's a good cricketer.
Speaking of emulating players, Saffers have a young spinner named Shamsi who must have grown up looking at Paul Adams. Just about bending the neck under the bowling arm each ball.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 24, 2022 1:21:06 GMT
I was waiting for aj to post that Indian cricket is a disgrace and that the entire ODI team should be dumped after losing 3-0 away to South Africa, but hasn't happened yet.
In all honesty, very impressive from the Saffers. Bavuma's turned out to be an excellent choice for captain, one is quite justified in wondering why he wasn't a regular before assuming the role. Van der Dustin is scoring runs for fun, QDK is loving fatherhood and test retirement and their bowling has been good for a while.
For India, they're missing their best batter and captain in Sharma, and a lot of their top order batting has not been consistent. But they'll be playing on very different wickets at home and in the upcoming World Cup and their lower order is strong so they should be good for 325+ most times out. I really do think this series was more about South Africa's improvement than India's decline.
And England held off West Indies to win by 1 run in the 2nd T20I
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