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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 14:06:06 GMT
What are your thoughts on his idea?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 19, 2017 14:29:18 GMT
So he wants to do the actual Superman. The version that made the character popular for generations. Sounds good.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2017 14:39:39 GMT
Yup. What taylorfirst1 said. The question is, why don't the studios understand this? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 19, 2017 15:53:16 GMT
As long as his Superman movie doesn't end up being boring like Donner film, I'm cool with that.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 19, 2017 15:58:53 GMT
As long as his Superman movie doesn't end up being boring like Donner film, I'm cool with that.  ? The Donner movies are entertaining. It's the Bryan Singer film that I have to schedule a nap while watching it. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 16:30:08 GMT
Yup. What taylorfirst1 said. The question is, why don't the studios understand this? I know I'm going to get a select few on my head for saying this, but... WB/DC do understand this. The thing is that they are in competition with Marvel and are reactionary (Suicide Squad is their Guardians of the Galaxy). No matter how many times they say to the contrary, they are. The Marvel movies for the most part are light and fun and adventurous except for when they darken the tone for some deeper character moments. DC wants to go against that. Instead of making the movies to go with the characters, they are making the movies to not be "them." |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 16:34:03 GMT
As long as his Superman movie doesn't end up being boring like Donner film, I'm cool with that. ? The Donner movies are entertaining. It's the Bryan Singer film that I have to schedule a nap while watching it. I liked the 1st Donner movie, also. That's the prototypical Superman. Superman Returns is worse than The Force Awakens in how they copied the 1st movie of that series. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 16:35:16 GMT
What are your thoughts on his idea? My thoughts on this is that I wish he made Man of Steel and BvS and Justice League and Days of Future Past and Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 19, 2017 18:16:13 GMT
What are your thoughts on his idea? My thoughts on this is that I wish he made Man of Steel and BvS and Justice League and Days of Future Past and Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. I am admittedly curious about what his Superman Returns sequel would have been like. Apparently Brainiac was the villain. As much as I dislike it, Kevin Spacey was a godsend as Lex Luthor. So seeing him interact with whoever they got for the other villain would have been amazing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:22:09 GMT
What are your thoughts on his idea? Sounds like you'll hate it, considering you all but deepthroat the bleak and dreary approach of the DCEU. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 19, 2017 18:26:50 GMT
Bryan Singer already tried "modern Donner"
It flopped.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:30:15 GMT
Bryan Singer already tried "modern Donner" It flopped. Bryan Singer is also a director of limited of skill. Vaughn has shown a much greater range than him. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 19, 2017 18:33:24 GMT
Bryan Singer already tried "modern Donner" It flopped. Bryan Singer is also a director of limited of skill. Vaughn has shown a much greater range than him. I don't necessarily agree with that statement, but, to each his own.  |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 20:44:22 GMT
Bryan Singer is also a director of limited of skill. Vaughn has shown a much greater range than him. I don't necessarily agree with that statement, but, to each his own. Singer has been coasting on The Usual Suspects and that he made a movie titled X-men for the last 20 plus years. Superman Returns was, for the most part, a remake of Superman '78. Any other movie he made that wasn't X-men has been swept under the rug and forgotten. He then lends his name to tv shows. He comes back to X-men with Days of Future Past, the story already started by Vaughn, and then changes it to be a psuedo remake of X2. Then goes on to make a ground up X-men movie with Apocalypse and tries to copy the way another franchise makes their movies. The movie is so middle of the road that it is forgotten and he leaves the franchise again. This time only adding his name to more tv shows based on the property. He was so into trying to keep that X-men magic that he wanted to make movies in the same vein as X-men. Logan's Run... remake and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea... remake. With Ian McKellen as Nemo... basically the same character as Magneto. Singer is very limited. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 19, 2017 20:45:14 GMT
Yes! Finally someone who understands the character of Superman. I'd love to see this Superman, but I think Henry Cavill would need to go. He's just not a great actor. He doesn't have the charisma to play that kind of Superman. Warner Bros. would have to find a charismatic actor that will embody the role of Superman for this to work.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 20:47:27 GMT
Bryan Singer already tried "modern Donner" It flopped. Superman Returns was not a "modern Donner" Superman movie. It was copy/paste. In a way, though, you can say it was the bridge between Donner's Superman and Man of Steel. You can see the start of the mopey Superman. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 20:53:05 GMT
Yes! Finally someone who understands the character of Superman. I'd love to see this Superman, but I think Henry Cavill would need to go. He's just not a great actor. He doesn't have the charisma to play that kind of Superman. Warner Bros. would have to find a charismatic actor that will embody the role of Superman for this to work. Maybe he just needs the right director. They cold be just using that he looks like he can play Superman. He has that look in the BTS pics he takes. Maybe he needs to hang out with The Rock and Will Smith and get some of that charisma. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 19, 2017 20:56:38 GMT
My thoughts on this is that I wish he made Man of Steel and BvS and Justice League and Days of Future Past and Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. I am admittedly curious about what his Superman Returns sequel would have been like. Apparently Brainiac was the villain. As much as I dislike it, Kevin Spacey was a godsend as Lex Luthor. So seeing him interact with whoever they got for the other villain would have been amazing. I don't.  The rumors had it that Brainiac took over the body of his son and aged him up. Then fought Superman at the end. Supes then has to kill his son. I think Spacey would have been an amazing original acted Luthor. Didn't like that the whole movie had everyone imitating the cast of the Donner movie. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 19, 2017 21:06:14 GMT
Yes! Finally someone who understands the character of Superman. I'd love to see this Superman, but I think Henry Cavill would need to go. He's just not a great actor. He doesn't have the charisma to play that kind of Superman. Warner Bros. would have to find a charismatic actor that will embody the role of Superman for this to work. Maybe he just needs the right director. They cold be just using that he looks like he can play Superman. He has that look in the BTS pics he takes. Maybe he needs to hang out with The Rock and Will Smith and get some of that charisma. Perhaps it is just Zack Synder's vision of Superman was just plain wrong, trying to make Superman Batman. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 19, 2017 21:56:56 GMT
I've been keeping out of this conversation after my original post because I'm that weird guy who loved Superman Returns.  I thought it was emotionally moving, well-acted, well-directed, and all "...color, feel-good, heroic," featuring a character who's "...a beacon of light in darkness," as Vaughn put it so well. That's Superman for me. |
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I thought it was emotionally moving, well-acted, well-directed, and all "...color, feel-good, heroic," featuring a character who's "...a beacon of light in darkness," as Vaughn put it so well. That's Superman for me.