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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 0:08:56 GMT
Bob Dylan or Billy Joel? I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Bob Dylan is a slightly better songwriter, maybe. Billy Joel is a far better singer. But seriously who do you like more? |
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Post by darknessfish on Sept 20, 2017 7:59:01 GMT
I'd pick the worst live performance of a terrible Dylan track over anything ever recorded by Joel.
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Post by sostie on Sept 20, 2017 9:09:19 GMT
Despite not being a particularly big fan of him, Dylan by a large margin
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Post by NJtoTX on Sept 20, 2017 11:07:05 GMT
I like Billy Joel, but it's a bit of a love-hate thing. I didn't care for Dylan's voice until Lay Lady Lay and then Blood on the Tracks came out, then gradually came to appreciate it, even in this millennium. Dylan easily at this point.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Sept 20, 2017 11:15:39 GMT
Dylan, easily, not that I’m a particularly big fan of his, but I’d be hard pressed to name a similar big name artist with a decades long career that I like less than Joel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 11:17:22 GMT
Bob Dylan
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Sept 20, 2017 11:30:19 GMT
Bob Dylan or Billy Joel? I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Bob Dylan is a slightly better songwriter, maybe. Billy Joel is a far better singer. But seriously who do you like more? |
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Post by marco26 on Sept 21, 2017 1:07:37 GMT
Are you serious? I am serious. Are you fucking serious with this question??? Bob Dylan or....Billy Joel?  Hey, what are you going to ask next: John Lennon or Justin Bieber? GODFATHER PART II or BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES? Ferrari or a KIA? |
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Post by someguy on Sept 22, 2017 2:07:10 GMT
Billy Joel. Yes, I'm serious.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 22, 2017 2:11:15 GMT
Are you serious? I am serious. Are you fucking serious with this question??? Bob Dylan or....Billy Joel? Hey, what are you going to ask next: GODFATHER PART II or BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES? Well now that you mention it... I've never seen the GODFATHER PART II, but I own BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES on DVD. |
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Post by marco26 on Sept 22, 2017 2:21:07 GMT
Well now that you mention it... I've never seen the GODFATHER PART II, but I own BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES on DVD. Well, GODFATHER II is a billion times a better sequel than BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES. But that does not mean that BENEATH is worthless. It is not. Fantastic score, pretty cool destroyed New York sets, fantastic looking atomic bomb (it really wouldn't look like that -- gold and with fins???), the mole men makeup is impressive, apes are cool as always....BENEATH is a terrible sequel but still a good film to watch.  |
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 22, 2017 3:21:34 GMT
But that does not mean that BENEATH is worthless. It is not. Fantastic score, pretty cool destroyed New York sets, fantastic looking atomic bomb (it really wouldn't look like that -- gold and with fins???), the mole men makeup is impressive, apes are cool as always....BENEATH is a terrible sequel but still a good film to watch. I'm actually quite fond of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES. I admit BENEATH is flawed, and not on the same level as the first film, but there was still a lot of creativity on display. Plus it's the only sequel set on the same planet of the apes that Charlton Heston went to in the original. |
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Sept 22, 2017 14:32:39 GMT
I don't listen to either much, but Bob Dylan has much better songs overall. I've never cared for Billy Joel much, piano man my....
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 22, 2017 15:13:01 GMT
tpfkar Love Billy Joel's trifecta, but not much else from him. Dylan is more of a love / afflicted with kind of thing.
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Post by marco26 on Sept 22, 2017 20:54:02 GMT
it's the only sequel set on the same planet of the apes that Charlton Heston went to in the original. Uhh, all the sequels were set on the same planet of apes that Heston went to. I guess you must have watched a shortened version of the original film. In the full length version Heston is on a beach and he sees the Statue Of Liberty. Uhh, that means he was on Earth the whole time. BENEATH, ESCAPE, CONQUEST, and BATTLE - all the sequels - take place on Earth. Strange that you thought the apes were on a different planet. You surely missed out on the fun of those films. |
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 22, 2017 23:17:40 GMT
it's the only sequel set on the same planet of the apes that Charlton Heston went to in the original. Uhh, all the sequels were set on the same planet of apes that Heston went to. I guess you must have watched a shortened version of the original film. In the full length version Heston is on a beach and he sees the Statue Of Liberty. Uhh, that means he was on Earth the whole time. BENEATH, ESCAPE, CONQUEST, and BATTLE - all the sequels - take place on Earth. Strange that you thought the apes were on a different planet. You surely missed out on the fun of those films. I could have been clearer in my original statement. Yes, all the films were set on the same planet. But only the first two films have the same setting and the same timeline. (Yes, I know the original PLANET was set in 3978, and BENEATH was set in 3955, but that was a continuity error.) But the events of ESCAPE create an alternate timeline, in which similar, but not the same, events occur. In ESCAPE, Cornelius gives, from his perspective, a history lesson in which an ape named Aldo was instrumental in creating the future simian society. But in CONQUEST it is Cornelius' son Caesar who leads the apes in revolt, proving the timeline has been altered. Likewise BATTLE ends with the Lawgiver addressing a group of ape and human children. It's doubtful it was the exact same Lawgiver who wrote in PLANET's sacred scrolls, "Beware the beast man, for he is the devil's pawn." So while a cursory examination of the Planet of the Apes series makes it appear like a vicious circle, it wasn't quite true. In the act of going back in time in ESCAPE, the three ape-o-nauts altered the past and the future. |
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Post by marco26 on Sept 23, 2017 2:21:37 GMT
So while a cursory examination of the Planet of the Apes series makes it appear like a vicious circle, it wasn't quite true. In the act of going back in time in ESCAPE, the three ape-o-nauts altered the past and the future. But the ape-o-nauts were the catalyst for all future events. Whether it was Caesar or Aldo, does not matter who led the CONQUEST...the same future will happen. The ape-o-nauts started something and it doesn't really matter if it was their offspring or Aldo (who you know is a rebellious ape in CONQUEST) that started the ball rolling for the future of the planet. |
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Post by Ass_E9 on Sept 23, 2017 3:08:24 GMT
It depends on my mood.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 23, 2017 3:24:45 GMT
So while a cursory examination of the Planet of the Apes series makes it appear like a vicious circle, it wasn't quite true. In the act of going back in time in ESCAPE, the three ape-o-nauts altered the past and the future. But the ape-o-nauts were the catalyst for all future events. Whether it was Caesar or Aldo, does not matter who led the CONQUEST...the same future will happen. The ape-o-nauts started something and it doesn't really matter if it was their offspring or Aldo (who you know is a rebellious ape in CONQUEST) that started the ball rolling for the future of the planet. There's actually a discussion on this very topic in BATTLE. Ape Scientist Virgil describes time as a highway, with an infinite number of lanes going from the past to future. Furthermore Virgil says that it's possible to change lanes and thus change the future. The original point I was trying to make is that, using Virgil's analogy, only PLANET and BENEATH are set in the same "lane". The later films in the series represent different lane(s) that end up in a future that's similar, but not identical to, the one we saw in PLANET. I'm not trying to make a big deal about it, I just find it an interesting bit of trivia that only the first two films in the series share the same "lane". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 3:33:51 GMT
Bob Dylan is the equivalent of throwing a thesaurus out of a moving car.
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