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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 8:50:43 GMT
tpfkar It very much is discrimination, because you're saying that their desires are automatically invalid, based on a medical diagnosis (and you're even extending it to people without such a diagnosis, such as myself). Not all people with mental illness are experiencing a break from reality. Depression is not a form of psychosis wherein the patient has lost touch with reality. Someone's medical condition ought not to lead to prejudice against that individual if they are expressing a coherent and rational argument, such as "I want to die so that I can escape from present and future suffering, knowing that it is unlikely that when I'm dead I will be able to feel deprivation of the joys". So you're addressing the person's reasoning and not discriminating against the patient without giving them a chance to explain themselves. Of course, as has been demonstrated many times, you do like your ad hominem attacks, so naturally you want people to be disqualified from assistance to die based on an ad hominem prejudice. If they aren't mentally incompetent/rash/deranged/screaming for help/narcissistic psychopaths then they could manage and would if truly decided, the trivially easy task in private, and wouldn't be demanding the state do it and hysterically flouncing about with the most comical of lugubrious exaggerations. If they are any of those, then the state certainly should not be complicit in deep-sixing them. And you drove the tone and started with the insults and have never stopped with them. No sweat, but you piercing madly hypocritical howls are always funny. And ad hominems are "your 'argument' is wrong because you're a nutcase", and not, of course "holy shyte your 'argument' is wildly irrational, morbid, psychopathic, insanely projecting, lugubriously exaggerated. You really are quite the nutcase." 
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"If they are rational and have the normal fear of harming themselves which is the product of billions of years of evolution, then they may rightly question why the responsibility of removing a burden that someone else placed on them (and the state sanctioned) should fall upon them? Why should it be their problem to solve a problem that someone else caused for them? And I don't insult often, and have had conversations with many people without resorting to insults. I even tended to stay away from insults when posting to Ada, just because I have no interest in message board feuds. You interpreted one of my comments as an insult, and you've churlishly never ceased to insult since that time. And you repeat the same pattern with several other posters, to the point where it comes across as incongruous to find a post of yours where you're not insulting somebody. And how about you try showing how your wish to deny the mentally ill the right to die based on your interpretation that they are all uniformly 'deranged', whilst ignoring whether or not their argument in isolation is rational, is not an ad hominem attack which unfairly stigmatises such people. It's a 'blast' for some people which is paid for at a high price through the suffering of the people who were unlucky. And all you can recommend to those people is 'be lucky like me, and you'll enjoy it'. Each child is entered into a lottery, and some of the prize are quite nifty, whilst if you get a really bad ticket, your destiny is to be tortured for your entire existence. Ergo, the 'nifty' prizes don't come free of charge; an innocent third party is entered into indentured servitude to pay off the cost of the prize. One child may be ecstatic about going to DisneyWorld; but that doesn't help the girl with the very rare and incurable genetic skin condition who can't even go for a day out to the seaside because she needs to be at home having special moisturising creams applied all over every couple of hours, and frequently experiences excruciating pain from even so much as brushing gently against the wall. Non-existent cannot consent to a risky, harmful and unnecessary endeavour, and because they cannot consent to something that has the potential to cause tremendous harm (and which is also guaranteed to condemn them to death), non-consent should be presumed in the absence of compelling arguments (which would need to invoke metaphysics) to the contrary. I never stated that I personally would want to go around telling people of my plans; simply that suicide is so far from being a right in any meaningful sense, that the legal authorities would automatically have the right to raid someone's home on the mere suspicion that they were planning to commit suicide. And it's not "just like the n-word", it's infinitely worse. Condemning someone to a lifetime of oppressive suffering is not in the same league as name calling; much as I understand that fake liberals like to pick the low hanging fruit in order to gain credentials, whilst ignoring the greatest injustices. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 9:58:13 GMT
tpfkar You keep demonstrating that your "thinker" is quite broken. I'll comment to my heart's content. What I won't do is spew insipid alt-right chants about "safe-space" and "triggering" and then make deranged baby statements about "not given the opportunity to correct" "much less defend", because I'm not a hypocrite, and as a sane person I know that I have every option to reply as I like. People rephrase to highlight the absurdity of stances all the time. It's standard viable debating when it's not your standard of sideways ass-pulls of new meaning. That is an argument against antinatalism, and applies to the odds of everyone at the outset, even those who do end up having a bad time, and certainly not the "usual argument" that "the suffering of the unfortunate is unimportant and only happy people matter". Holy completely change the meaning, Hysterical Hypocrite Bat-toddler. And your poopy diaper fascination and they-can't-care-if-they're-dead psychopathy is a really healthy lens to view the world with. And if you weren't happy with how I summarised yours and graham's position on antinatalism, at least I gave the right of reply and will defend my particular way of expressing it. How many posts of mine have you just faded away from? How dare you not give me "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" by you, "much less defend myself against the insults"! Your derangement is palpable. 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 11:55:04 GMT
tpfkar And if you weren't happy with how I summarised yours and graham's position on antinatalism, at least I gave the right of reply and will defend my particular way of expressing it. How many posts of mine have you just faded away from? How dare you not give me "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" by you, "much less defend myself against the insults"! Your derangement is palpable.
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"Plenty, I'm sure. But that's mainly because you always insist on having the last word, and the only way to prevent a particular thread from going on until one of us dies is for me to stop responding. But usually each post is just reiterating the same points in different ways, and if I've ever actually missed something completely (especially if it's something that I've distorted), then I will certainly not shrink from the opportunity to either admit the mistake or defend the point. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 12:01:58 GMT
tpfkar How many posts of mine have you just faded away from? How dare you not give me "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" by you, "much less defend myself against the insults"! Your derangement is palpable. Plenty, I'm sure. But that's mainly because you always insist on having the last word, and the only way to prevent a particular thread from going on until one of us dies is for me to stop responding. But usually each post is just reiterating the same points in different ways, and if I've ever actually missed something completely (especially if it's something that I've distorted), then I will certainly not shrink from the opportunity to either admit the mistake or defend the point. Right, you're a massive wailing hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 12:09:38 GMT
tpfkar Plenty, I'm sure. But that's mainly because you always insist on having the last word, and the only way to prevent a particular thread from going on until one of us dies is for me to stop responding. But usually each post is just reiterating the same points in different ways, and if I've ever actually missed something completely (especially if it's something that I've distorted), then I will certainly not shrink from the opportunity to either admit the mistake or defend the point. Right, you're a massive wailing hypocrite.
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"So you expect me to keep up the same repetitive discussion literally for the rest of my life? Like I've stated, if I have 'distorted' or failed to address a point, then I will be happy to either admit the distortion or defend it, and address the point. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 12:20:05 GMT
tpfkar Right, you're a massive wailing hypocrite. So you expect me to keep up the same repetitive discussion literally for the rest of my life? Like I've stated, if I have 'distorted' or failed to address a point, then I will be happy to either admit the distortion or defend it, and address the point. No, I expect a sane person to be able to grok that you feel free to howl like a massive wailing hypocrite about somebody else doing what you constantly do. And you've stated that you're doing this because you don't want to feel "safe-space" harassed. 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 12:27:24 GMT
tpfkar So you expect me to keep up the same repetitive discussion literally for the rest of my life? Like I've stated, if I have 'distorted' or failed to address a point, then I will be happy to either admit the distortion or defend it, and address the point. No, I expect a sane person to be able to grok that you feel free to howl like a massive wailing hypocrite about somebody else doing what you constantly do. And you've stated that you're doing this because you don't want to feel "safe-space" harassed.
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"I never expected graham to continue responding forever, just not deliberately distort my words, claim victory based on a misinterpretation and their own subjective philosophy, miss points, and then refuse to account for any of those things. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 12:33:13 GMT
tpfkar I never expected graham to continue responding forever, just not deliberately distort my words, claim victory based on a misinterpretation and their own subjective philosophy, miss points, and then refuse to account for any of those things.  That's your standard modus of reply. The fact that you don't "get" the massive hypocrisy of you wailing bluster at him for what you do all the time is just another window into your derangement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:44:14 GMT
tpfkar I never expected graham to continue responding forever, just not deliberately distort my words, claim victory based on a misinterpretation and their own subjective philosophy, miss points, and then refuse to account for any of those things. That's your standard modus of reply. The fact that you don't "get" the massive hypocrisy of you wailing bluster at him for what you do all the time is just another window into your derangement.
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"It's not, because if it were, I wouldn't even be answering this post and this wouldn't have even come up. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 20:53:58 GMT
tpfkar That's your standard modus of reply. The fact that you don't "get" the massive hypocrisy of you wailing bluster at him for what you do all the time is just another window into your derangement. It's not, because if it were, I wouldn't even be answering this post and this wouldn't have even come up. Brilliant! By the way "all the time" is an idiom you overliteral genius you. And the way it wouldn't have come up was if you hadn't howled at Graham for things you do repeatedly. It remains that you are a many-times over bawling hypocrite.  It informs all the processing displayed in your posts. "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" "much less defend myself against the insults".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 4:38:32 GMT
tpfkar It's not, because if it were, I wouldn't even be answering this post and this wouldn't have even come up. Brilliant! By the way "all the time" is an idiom you overliteral genius you. And the way it wouldn't have come up was if you hadn't howled at Graham for things you do repeatedly. It remains that you are a many-times over bawling hypocrite. It informs all the processing displayed in your posts. "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" "much less defend myself against the insults".
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****"I wasn't taking it literally. If I had a habit of ignoring things, I would not be persisting to respond. Allowing a conversation to eventually end isn't the same as deliberately misrepresenting someone's point, claiming victory and then pointedly refusing to admit correction. |
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 16, 2017 9:11:15 GMT
tpfkar Brilliant! By the way "all the time" is an idiom you overliteral genius you. And the way it wouldn't have come up was if you hadn't howled at Graham for things you do repeatedly. It remains that you are a many-times over bawling hypocrite. It informs all the processing displayed in your posts. "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" "much less defend myself against the insults".
I wasn't taking it literally. If I had a habit of ignoring things, I would not be persisting to respond. Allowing a conversation to eventually end isn't the same as deliberately misrepresenting someone's point, claiming victory and then pointedly refusing to admit correction. I just know you weren't, sweetness. And you're of course right on your second line, just as usual you have your application ludicrously reversed. "the opportunity to correct the distortion made" "much less defend myself against the insults". The bastard harassed （;＾∀;＾）you by declining to continue responding to your "safe-space"-yapping self. 
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 2, 2018 15:31:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 16:31:23 GMT
Rather pathetic that you would catalogue these old threads (which I allow you to have the last word on, because otherwise they'd go on until one of us dies) and then bump them months later, even though they're all the same as each other. |
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 2, 2018 16:37:51 GMT
tpfkar Rather pathetic that you would catalogue these old threads (which I allow you to have the last word on, because otherwise they'd go on until one of us dies) and then bump them months later, even though they're all the same as each other. I'll bring them all up, like your pure bawling insanity and free fantasy, every time they're relevant. The fact that they're the same insanity from you over and over is the point.  And you've come back to threads after up to a month before just to start slap flailing again, little baby girl.
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