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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 20, 2017 18:44:07 GMT
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Post by thefleetsin on Sept 20, 2017 19:21:52 GMT
and your hex for free
there's no easier way
to
avoid paying into a workers
four oh one kay
then to
adamantly persuade
that there's a gilded pathway
straight to a heaven
where
everyone gets to play
with the same rubber dildo
they've been
screwing you with your entire life.
jesus may
never have been married
but you still
get to play
his
moaning wife.
sjw 09/20/17 inspired at this very moment in time by all those wondrous nursery rhymes systematically wrapped around your balls.
from the 'blasphemy series' of poems
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2017 20:44:17 GMT
I didn't read the whole thing, just the slice was enough. There is a group in my part of the world - International House of Prayer, abbreviated as IHop, just like the pancake house - that do similar stuff. People sell everything they have, donate it to the church and then are put in organization-owned houses and work for low wages in upper member's businesses. They come from all over the world. Sometimes they wise up and go home, though they have to start all over again. I have some friends that live in the middle of an older subdivision that this church is buying up, and they talked to their neighbor who was a member at the time. I don't remember Jane Whaley, I was busy with a job and a farm and new husband, and not paying that much attention to anything else. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 20, 2017 21:09:21 GMT
I didn't read the whole thing, just the slice was enough. There is a group in my part of the world - International House of Prayer, abbreviated as IHop, just like the pancake house - that do similar stuff. People sell everything they have, donate it to the church and then are put in organization-owned houses and work for low wages in upper member's businesses. They come from all over the world. Sometimes they wise up and go home, though they have to start all over again. I have some friends that live in the middle of an older subdivision that this church is buying up, and they talked to their neighbor who was a member at the time. I don't remember Jane Whaley, I was busy with a job and a farm and new husband, and not paying that much attention to anything else. Shades of Scientology. Reminds me a little of the tales of woe of people who were still buying into Amway in the 90s. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 20, 2017 21:15:41 GMT
I didn't read the whole thing, just the slice was enough. There is a group in my part of the world - International House of Prayer, abbreviated as IHop, just like the pancake house - that do similar stuff. People sell everything they have, donate it to the church and then are put in organization-owned houses and work for low wages in upper member's businesses. They come from all over the world. Sometimes they wise up and go home, though they have to start all over again. I have some friends that live in the middle of an older subdivision that this church is buying up, and they talked to their neighbor who was a member at the time. I don't remember Jane Whaley, I was busy with a job and a farm and new husband, and not paying that much attention to anything else. Shades of Scientology. Reminds me a little of the tales of woe of people who were still buying into Amway in the 90s. Did you know that Amway is still around? They changed their name, they solicited a friend of mine, I went with her to one of the meetings and one of the members told me that it was God's Will that I had come to the meeting. We left skid marks... |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 20, 2017 21:50:23 GMT
Shades of Scientology. Reminds me a little of the tales of woe of people who were still buying into Amway in the 90s. Did you know that Amway is still around? They changed their name, they solicited a friend of mine, I went with her to one of the meetings and one of the members told me that it was God's Will that I had come to the meeting. We left skid marks... Amway does, I believe, target rural and tending-towards-poor Christians deliberately. Of the smaller shack-church areas I've been to in Tennessee, N. Georgia and Alabama, you couldn't throw a rock without hitting someone who wanted you to "come over for dinner" with an ulterior, sales-based motive. Most purchase-then-sell pyramid type schemes are failing miserably (make-up and tupperware, etc.) yet people still buy in bulk, hoping for a slightly-more-gullible sucker to come along and keep the chain going. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Sept 22, 2017 16:23:19 GMT
Not only is Amway still around, the daughter-in-law of one of the founders of this scam is now U.S. Secretary of Education. When i was in college, one of my classmates did an investigative report on one of the Multi-Level Marketing companies that had become popular in our area (not Amway but one of the copycats). She pretended to be someone who was interested in signing up as an "associate" and secretly recorded the entire experience. On the recording you could hear another woman start talking to her as though she was also interested in being an 'associate" when what she was really doing was making a sales pitch. "Hey, don't you think this sounds like a great way to make a lot of money? Are you going to sign up? I'm going to sign up right now." So my classmate, being smarter than the average southern redneck, said to the other woman "So how long have you worked for this company?" To which she received a nervous reply "What do you mean?" My classmate answered "You're not really trying to hide it very well since you were also here for their presentations yesterday and the day before and both times I was parked across the street and saw you talking and laughing with the guy who has done most of the talking during this presentation. Your job is to be a shill and pretend to be interested in being a member while you actually con unsuspecting people into signing up." The woman who had just been caught said "Wait here just a moment, please." There was silence on the recording for about 45 seconds and then a man's voice said "Ma'am, I'm going to have to ask you to leave." My classmate said "Why, because I know how your scam operates?" The guy showed no shame at all and answered her with one word "Exactly."
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 22, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
Not only is Amway still around, the daughter-in-law of one of the founders of this scam is now U.S. Secretary of Education. When i was in college, one of my classmates did an investigative report on one of the Multi-Level Marketing companies that had become popular in our area (not Amway but one of the copycats). She pretended to be someone who was interested in signing up as an "associate" and secretly recorded the entire experience. On the recording you could hear another woman start talking to her as though she was also interested in being an 'associate" when what she was really doing was making a sales pitch. "Hey, don't you think this sounds like a great way to make a lot of money? Are you going to sign up? I'm going to sign up right now." So my classmate, being smarter than the average southern redneck, said to the other woman "So how long have you worked for this company?" To which she received a nervous reply "What do you mean?" My classmate answered "You're not really trying to hide it very well since you were also here for their presentations yesterday and the day before and both times I was parked across the street and saw you talking and laughing with the guy who has done most of the talking during this presentation. Your job is to be a shill and pretend to be interested in being a member while you actually con unsuspecting people into signing up." The woman who had just been caught said "Wait here just a moment, please." There was silence on the recording for about 45 seconds and then a man's voice said "Ma'am, I'm going to have to ask you to leave." My classmate said "Why, because I know how your scam operates?" The guy showed no shame at all and answered her with one word "Exactly." Apparently time-share scams also commonly use an audience plant... which seems doubly sad because the time share pitches are usually incredibly long. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 22, 2017 21:46:50 GMT
Have you ever seen the movie "Leap of Faith'? Steve Martin, in a serious role, portrays a scamming evangelist, and during the movie you get to see all the shills and the little behind the scenes tricks. Very educational.
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Post by phludowin on Sept 22, 2017 22:52:49 GMT
Christians in North Carolina importing poor people from other continents and forcing them into slavery? Some things never change... |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 22, 2017 23:06:42 GMT
Squeaky wheels.
What percentage of organized religion is that? Not exactly representative is it? No, I didn't think so.
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Post by scienceisgod on Sept 22, 2017 23:15:14 GMT
Christians in North Carolina importing poor people from other continents and forcing them into slavery? Some things never change... Confirmation bias. What do you think the rich white liberals in California are doing, scrubbing their own toilets? |
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Post by scienceisgod on Sept 22, 2017 23:31:08 GMT
Somehow the preoccupation with verifiability and reliable sources doesn't mesh with the salacious gossip that invariably follows. "Guys, you'll never believe the crazy story I just heard which of course is fully documented and vouched for with citations by the most prestigious authorities™! It's out of this world INSANE!". You can't very well criticize the hard sell method after employing it yourself.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 23, 2017 0:47:43 GMT
Not exactly representative is it? It's not being presented as representative.  Stop looking for cartoons. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 23, 2017 6:28:10 GMT
Not exactly representative is it? It's not being presented as representative. Stop looking for cartoons. How is it being presented, laughing boy?  |
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 23, 2017 17:12:29 GMT
ENJOY:
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 23, 2017 17:23:33 GMT
It's not being presented as representative. Stop looking for cartoons. How is it being presented, laughing boy? It's an article about a single sect. Think it through for a bit. You guys want cartoons, Fleet's there for you. Right on your level. |
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Post by Vegas on Sept 23, 2017 17:36:17 GMT
How is it being presented, laughing boy? It's an article about a single sect. Think it through for a bit. You guys want cartoons, Fleet's there for you. Right on your level. Well... just for the record.... You are the guy that will cite a single incident that the majority of people are outraged over... and call it as being representative of an entire "Rape Culture". So, Who the fck knows what you deem as having a more representative import in that bald head of yours? Just for the record... I, personally, didn't think you meant it as such... but, ya gotta give others leeway on trying to decipher your level of bat shit outrage... Just for the record, I know you love the phrase "just for the record".  |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 23, 2017 19:26:14 GMT
Literally, reams of incidents and studies. Your struggle continues, but don't mistake your lack of reading for the actual case.
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Post by Vegas on Sept 24, 2017 4:55:12 GMT
Literally, reams of incidents and studies. Your struggle continues, but don't mistake your lack of reading for the actual case. Don't ever stop trying to blow yourself..... And thanks for proving my point... The one incident that you cite in a single thread is supposed to represent a greater picture.... So you can't blame people for thinking that this might also the case in this thread. I'll pass on pointing out that most of the time that you cite an incident... It's usually about how the vast majority of people... You know, dipsht, the actual culture that you are trying to malign... are outraged at the same thing that you are. But, hey.... You trying to blow your own horn is hilarious to watch.  |
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