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Post by Phoenix101 on Sept 21, 2017 15:47:31 GMT
Unfairly:
Altman
Kurosawa
Scorsese
Spielberg
Middle of the Road:
Tarantino
Definitely Are:
Bay
Leone
Nolan
Any more examples?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 21, 2017 15:53:09 GMT
To be a misogynist, someone needs to categorically hate, or at least dislike, or have a bias against, or have contempt for women.
Do we have evidence of Bay, Leone or Nolan having such views?
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Post by Phoenix101 on Sept 21, 2017 16:38:08 GMT
To be a misogynist, someone needs to categorically hate, or at least dislike, or have a bias against, or have contempt for women. Do we have evidence of Bay, Leone or Nolan having such views? Bay cast two women for their looks than acting talent for Transformers, Fox being the big example. Not to mention the infamous “every college student is a supermodel” part of the sequel. Also, Kate Beckinsale being “fat”. Leone’s films have a disgusting view on women. The slapping of a prostitute in Good, Bad, Ugly, of course. For example, Claudia Cardinale’s first appearance was supposed to be her legs opening for us to see. Thankfully, that didn’t happen. Nolan likes to kill off women to kickstart a male’s journey. The female lead of the first two Batman films is a nagging, judgmental woman who is merely a prize. I’m not saying they really hate women but their portrayal of them on film is troubling. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 21, 2017 16:41:45 GMT
To be a misogynist, someone needs to categorically hate, or at least dislike, or have a bias against, or have contempt for women. Do we have evidence of Bay, Leone or Nolan having such views? Bay cast two women for their looks than acting talent for Transformers, Fox being the big example. Not to mention the infamous “every college student is a supermodel” part of the sequel. Also, Kate Beckinsale being “fat”. You're bringing up two very different issues here, so one at a time. Even if the above were the case, what would you say that has to do with the idea of Bay categorically hating etc. women? There seems to be zero connection to me. |
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Post by Archelaus on Sept 21, 2017 16:50:48 GMT
Alfred Hitchcock was called a misogynist by Tippi Hedren in an interview with The New York Times. His films have been routinely criticized as misogynistic by biographer Donald Spoto and several writers. |
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Post by hi224 on Sept 21, 2017 17:29:50 GMT
I am not sure any of these directors fit the criteria.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 21, 2017 18:55:06 GMT
To be a misogynist, someone needs to categorically hate, or at least dislike, or have a bias against, or have contempt for women. Do we have evidence of Bay, Leone or Nolan having such views? Bay cast two women for their looks than acting talent for Transformers, Fox being the big example. Not to mention the infamous “every college student is a supermodel” part of the sequel. Also, Kate Beckinsale being “fat”. Leone’s films have a disgusting view on women. The slapping of a prostitute in Good, Bad, Ugly, of course. For example, Claudia Cardinale’s first appearance was supposed to be her legs opening for us to see. Thankfully, that didn’t happen. Nolan likes to kill off women to kickstart a male’s journey. The female lead of the first two Batman films is a nagging, judgmental woman who is merely a prize. I’m not saying they really hate women but their portrayal of them on film is troubling. This is total nonsense. People (both male and female) get cast in movies for their looks all the time. It has nothing to do with hatred of one gender or another. As for your other examples, learn what the definition of misogyny is. Then learn something about the art of story telling. Then learn something about human relations and human history. Then come back and try to make a rational point. |
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Post by Marv on Sept 21, 2017 18:57:08 GMT
Re The Good Bad and Ugly...wasn't it the bad guy that slapped the prostitute? It wasn't as if the film was supporting that character or his actions. He had just killed a man and his son, didn't he? It's been a while so my details of events are a bit foggy.
As for Claudia in OUATITW...well...I thought she was a strong character even if most of the men around her were pigs. I can understand disliking the moments where various characters touch her without her consent tho. I'm not gonna get mad at a scene we never had tho.
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Post by salomonj on Sept 21, 2017 19:10:29 GMT
Bay cast two women for their looks than acting talent for Transformers, Fox being the big example. Not to mention the infamous “every college student is a supermodel” part of the sequel. Also, Kate Beckinsale being “fat”. Leone’s films have a disgusting view on women. The slapping of a prostitute in Good, Bad, Ugly, of course. For example, Claudia Cardinale’s first appearance was supposed to be her legs opening for us to see. Thankfully, that didn’t happen. Nolan likes to kill off women to kickstart a male’s journey. The female lead of the first two Batman films is a nagging, judgmental woman who is merely a prize. I’m not saying they really hate women but their portrayal of them on film is troubling. This is total nonsense. People (both male and female) get cast in movies for their looks all the time. It has nothing to do with hatred of one gender or another. As for your other examples, learn what the definition of misogyny is. Then learn something about the art of story telling. Then learn something about human relations and human history. Then come back and try to make a rational point. His reasons for all three directors are total rubbish. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 21, 2017 19:29:19 GMT
Sean Young said she was harassed by a famous movie director who then tried to destroy her career. Based on the time frame and some later comments, she has to be talking about SS.
Cecil B DeMille treated women characters like they were children. George Pal had weak women characters.
Leone was not in any way comparable--he just followed Nature in his character depictions. Thus a Mexican could be a rapist or murderer. A woman could be a prostitute. It DOES happen.
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Post by jakesully on Sept 21, 2017 20:27:27 GMT
David Fincher was unfairly accused of being a sexist with his portrayal of the women in The Social Network. I remember numerous articles and complaints about how women were portrayed in that film . Stupid SJWs idiots always finding something to complain about .
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Post by hi224 on Sept 21, 2017 20:29:20 GMT
David Fincher was unfairly accused of being a sexist with his portrayal of the women in The Social Network. I remember numerous articles and complaints about how women were portrayed in that film . Stupid SJWs idiots always finding something to complain about . I always find it very humorous although off topic when movies and shows get maligned for not having a more racially diverse cast. |
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Post by salomonj on Sept 21, 2017 21:12:16 GMT
David Fincher was unfairly accused of being a sexist with his portrayal of the women in The Social Network. I remember numerous articles and complaints about how women were portrayed in that film . Stupid SJWs idiots always finding something to complain about . I actually just watched that movie last night (it was absolutely incredible). I cannot fathom that people criticized David Fincher for it. |
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Post by Reggie_Stration on Sept 21, 2017 22:19:12 GMT
I don't know if he's ever been accused of sexism but I find Nicolas Roeg to be a director particularly interested in sex and nudity in his films.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 21, 2017 22:27:55 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Sept 22, 2017 0:38:30 GMT
Joss Whedon...according to his ex-wife.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 22, 2017 1:20:23 GMT
To be a misogynist, someone needs to categorically hate, or at least dislike, or have a bias against, or have contempt for women. Do we have evidence of Bay, Leone or Nolan having such views? Nolan likes to kill off women to kickstart a male’s journey. The female lead of the first two Batman films is a nagging, judgmental woman who is merely a prize. How is she a "prize" when she rejects Batman? Of all the superhero female leads that are there to get rescued and then reward the hero with sex, you picked the one that...didn't. and while she's nagging and annoying to the audience, I think she's actually supposed to be the films' moral compass. But to defend you for a second, sexism isn't just "categorically hating women" any more than racism is "categorically hating other races". That's a simplification and why people who are racist and sexist generally don't think they're racist and sexist. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 22, 2017 14:09:30 GMT
Nolan likes to kill off women to kickstart a male’s journey. The female lead of the first two Batman films is a nagging, judgmental woman who is merely a prize. How is she a "prize" when she rejects Batman? Of all the superhero female leads that are there to get rescued and then reward the hero with sex, you picked the one that...didn't. and while she's nagging and annoying to the audience, I think she's actually supposed to be the films' moral compass. But to defend you for a second, sexism isn't just "categorically hating women" any more than racism is "categorically hating other races". That's a simplification and why people who are racist and sexist generally don't think they're racist and sexist. The OP's original title used the word misogyny. He later edited to say sexism. That's why some of the early responses refer to "hating women". |
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Sept 22, 2017 14:28:51 GMT
I personally don't like to make personal judgments on people based on the films they make. As a woman myself, I've had no reason to feel that any of the directors mentioned are sexist. I'm also growing sick of seeing this word thrown around so much as if theirs an epidemic of it...trust me there isn't.
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Post by nausea on Sept 25, 2017 11:25:45 GMT
if you do it out in public its domestic abuse.
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