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Post by moviebuffbrad on Sept 22, 2017 13:17:09 GMT
I'll let you know on the 24th.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 13:19:15 GMT
David Meade, a proponent of Planet X or Nibiru has claimed the planet will pass the Earth Saturday September 23rd You'd kinda see it by now. Not necessarily, if it doesn't show up well on the UV spectrum, and especially with all the junk airplanes are spraying in the atmosphere these days.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 13:26:14 GMT
You'd kinda see it by now. Not necessarily, if it doesn't show up well on the UV spectrum, and especially with all the junk airplanes are spraying in the atmosphere these days. Yes, necessarily. If any planet were close enough to Earth to have more gravitational effect on it than Mars, say, it would be easily seen, even if only due to the portion of the star field it blocks out. Haven't you ever owned a telescope? Of course, we'd also notice the gravitational effect in other ways, such as via tidal activity.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 13:47:57 GMT
Not necessarily, if it doesn't show up well on the UV spectrum, and especially with all the junk airplanes are spraying in the atmosphere these days. Yes, necessarily. If any planet were close enough to Earth to have more gravitational effect on it than Mars, say, it would be easily seen, even if only due to the portion of the star field it blocks out. Haven't you ever owned a telescope? Of course, we'd also notice the gravitational effect in other ways, such as via tidal activity. According to you this is so. And I'm thinking about buying a telescope, for all the good it will do. I can't afford an IR or radio telescope, and you probably can't either, so you just trust what you hear on the MSM.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 13:51:47 GMT
this is a journey and you are there with us Curly-Hair.......is that you?
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Post by politicidal on Sept 22, 2017 13:55:57 GMT
this is a journey and you are there with us Curly-Hair.......is that you? I think so.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 13:57:36 GMT
Yes, necessarily. If any planet were close enough to Earth to have more gravitational effect on it than Mars, say, it would be easily seen, even if only due to the portion of the star field it blocks out. Haven't you ever owned a telescope? Of course, we'd also notice the gravitational effect in other ways, such as via tidal activity. According to you this is so. And I'm thinking about buying a telescope, for all the good it will do. I can't afford an IR or radio telescope, and you probably can't either, so you just trust what you hear on the MSM. If it were close enough that it's going to have an effect tomorrow*, you'd be able to see it with your naked eye at this point, as long as you live in a place where there's not bad light pollution, so that you can see the star field in the sky when it's dark. *It couldn't actually be close enough to have a world-ending effect tomorrow, but not have any very observable effects today, but we can ignore that part. The only way you could believe something like this is by not having any knowledge of how gravitational effects work, how planetary motion works, etc. You could think that we have that stuff wrong, of course, but you can't just make up alternatives arbitrarily, and the alternatives need to be able to account for observations. ----------------------------- Also, the idea that you apparently think that people learn science from "mainstream media" is frightening. Take a class. Attend free lectures from professors if you can't afford to take a class. Crack open a textbook--you can purchase the penultimate edition of textbooks cheap online, or go to a library. Read some peer-reviewed science journals--again, you can do this via a library, but jstor also allows limited free reading. Read free papers from scientists online (you can usually find a bunch by looking at universities' faculty pages), etc.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 14:07:11 GMT
Curly-Hair.......is that you? I think so. Can't decide if she is a genuine nut or someone pretending to be a nut for kicks. What's your opinion?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 14:12:23 GMT
According to you this is so. And I'm thinking about buying a telescope, for all the good it will do. I can't afford an IR or radio telescope, and you probably can't either, so you just trust what you hear on the MSM. If it were close enough that it's going to have an effect tomorrow*, you'd be able to see it with your naked eye at this point, as long as you live in a place where there's not bad light pollution, so that you can see the star field in the sky when it's dark. *It couldn't actually be close enough to have a world-ending effect tomorrow, but not have any very observable effects today, but we can ignore that part.The only way you could believe something like this is by not having any knowledge of how gravitational effects work, how planetary motion works, etc. You could think that we have that stuff wrong, of course, but you can't just make up alternatives arbitrarily, and the alternatives need to be able to account for observations. ----------------------------- Also, the idea that you apparently think that people learn science from "mainstream media" is frightening. Take a class. Attend free lectures from professors if you can't afford to take a class. Crack open a textbook--you can purchase the penultimate edition of textbooks cheap online, or go to a library. Read some peer-reviewed science journals--again, you can do this via a library, but jstor also allows limited free reading. Read free papers from scientists online (you can usually find a bunch by looking at universities' faculty pages), etc. Carlos Munoz Ferrada said that people would be able to see it eventually. I'd like to see him proved right on that. If nothing else, it would get people to drop their preoccupation with whatever inane bullshit they've got going on. Oh, and piss on your stupid "peer-reviewed science journals." I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 14:14:49 GMT
If it were close enough that it's going to have an effect tomorrow*, you'd be able to see it with your naked eye at this point, as long as you live in a place where there's not bad light pollution, so that you can see the star field in the sky when it's dark. *It couldn't actually be close enough to have a world-ending effect tomorrow, but not have any very observable effects today, but we can ignore that part.The only way you could believe something like this is by not having any knowledge of how gravitational effects work, how planetary motion works, etc. You could think that we have that stuff wrong, of course, but you can't just make up alternatives arbitrarily, and the alternatives need to be able to account for observations. ----------------------------- Also, the idea that you apparently think that people learn science from "mainstream media" is frightening. Take a class. Attend free lectures from professors if you can't afford to take a class. Crack open a textbook--you can purchase the penultimate edition of textbooks cheap online, or go to a library. Read some peer-reviewed science journals--again, you can do this via a library, but jstor also allows limited free reading. Read free papers from scientists online (you can usually find a bunch by looking at universities' faculty pages), etc. Carlos Munoz Ferrada said that people would be able to see it eventually. I'd like to see him proved right on that. If nothing else, it would get people to drop their preoccupation with whatever inane bullshit they've got going on. Oh, and piss on your stupid "peer-reviewed science journals." I mean that from the bottom of my heart. There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Re the other comment, so you prefer people just making up shit?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 14:17:46 GMT
Carlos Munoz Ferrada said that people would be able to see it eventually. I'd like to see him proved right on that. If nothing else, it would get people to drop their preoccupation with whatever inane bullshit they've got going on. Oh, and piss on your stupid "peer-reviewed science journals." I mean that from the bottom of my heart. There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Re the other comment, so you prefer people just making up shit? As far as I know, Dr. Ferrada never said one damn thing about September 23, 2017. Please stop pretending to be thicker than you really are. Come on, TS, you can do better.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 14:23:41 GMT
There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Re the other comment, so you prefer people just making up shit? As far as I know, Dr. Ferrada never said one damn thing about September 23, 2017. Please stop pretending to be thicker than you really are. Come on, TS, you can do better. You understand, in the context of the conversation, that my comments are predicated on the idea that "planet x" will be ending the Earth tomorrow, right? I'm not commenting on anything other than that idea.
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Post by MCDemuth on Sept 22, 2017 14:24:09 GMT
Also, the idea that you apparently think that people learn science from "mainstream media" is frightening. Yeah, I've had people arguing with me in discussions by pointing to YOUTUBE videos, and internet BLOGS as explanations to major controversial topics and dismissing credited scientists and legitimate investigations... And I'll say, what are their qualifications to be the final decider on how things are? and if they are that important, why are they not working at universities, instead of from their parent's basement? Someone once called my opinions "boring" too... It's no wonder there is so much "fake" news out there. People these days seem to only believe exciting lies as the truth, instead of accepting boring facts as the truth. It's all VERY frightening. Take a class. Attend free lectures from professors if you can't afford to take a class. Crack open a textbook--you can purchase the penultimate edition of textbooks cheap online, or go to a library. Read some peer-reviewed science journals--again, you can do this via a library, but jstor also allows limited free reading. Read free papers from scientists online (you can usually find a bunch by looking at universities' faculty pages), etc. EXACTLY!
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 14:28:11 GMT
As far as I know, Dr. Ferrada never said one damn thing about September 23, 2017. Please stop pretending to be thicker than you really are. Come on, TS, you can do better. You understand, in the context of the conversation, that my comments are predicated on the idea that "planet x" will be ending the Earth tomorrow, right? I'm not commenting on anything other than that idea. Perhaps you should have considered that before you brought up the moldy old pro-establishment if-it-was-there-we-would-see-it tripe. You should also consider that I have guaranteed the world will not end tomorrow. Trust me on this. I'm a herald. I know stuff.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 22, 2017 14:30:37 GMT
Also, the idea that you apparently think that people learn science from "mainstream media" is frightening. Yeah, I've had people arguing with me in discussions by pointing to YOUTUBE videos, and internet BLOGS as explanations to major controversial topics and dismissing credited scientists and legitimate investigations... And I'll say, what are their qualifications to be the final decider on how things are? and if they are that important, why are they not working at universities, instead of from their parent's basement? Someone once called my opinions "boring" too... It's no wonder there is so much "fake" news out there. People these days seem to only believe exciting lies as the truth, instead of accepting boring facts as the truth. It's all VERY frightening. Take a class. Attend free lectures from professors if you can't afford to take a class. Crack open a textbook--you can purchase the penultimate edition of textbooks cheap online, or go to a library. Read some peer-reviewed science journals--again, you can do this via a library, but jstor also allows limited free reading. Read free papers from scientists online (you can usually find a bunch by looking at universities' faculty pages), etc. EXACTLY! Sorry, but I don't take advice from shills.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 14:33:29 GMT
You understand, in the context of the conversation, that my comments are predicated on the idea that "planet x" will be ending the Earth tomorrow, right? I'm not commenting on anything other than that idea. Perhaps you should have considered that before you brought up the moldy old pro-establishment if-it-was-there-we-would-see-it tripe. You should also consider that I have guaranteed the world will not end tomorrow. Trust me on this. I'm a herald. I know stuff. You're thinking that I didn't consider what I'm saying is the context of my own comments when I said that if another planet were close enough to us that it would destroy the Earth tomorrow, we'd see it by now? I'm not saying anything like, "If there were another large planet in our solar system, period, we'd have seen it already." This thread is about the idea that it's close enough to us that it will destroy the Earth tomorrow. So that's what I commented on.
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Post by MCDemuth on Sept 22, 2017 14:33:29 GMT
There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Exactly... According to this thread that the OP started... Nibiru or Planet X is suppose to destroy our planet tomorrow. Nibiru or Planet X is supposed to be at least the size of Earth, but most believers think this object is Much Much Larger... Possibly the size of Jupiter. If this object is actually in a stable orbit (not flung out into the galaxy from orbiting to fast)... and since we can see Venus, and Mars..,. WE WOULD SEE THE GOD DAMN THING IN THE SKY WITH OUR NAKED EYES RIGHT NOW!!!
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 22, 2017 14:35:21 GMT
There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Exactly... According to this thread that the OP started... Nibiru or Planet X is suppose to destroy our planet tomorrow. Nibiru or Planet X is supposed to be at least the size of Earth, but most believers think this object is Much Much Larger... Possibly the size of Jupiter. If this object is actually in a stable orbit (not flung out into the galaxy from orbiting to fast)... and since we can see Venus, and Mars..,. WE WOULD SEE THE GOD DAMN THING IN THE SKY WITH OUR NAKED EYES RIGHT NOW!!! Well, and the only way that it would actually destroy the Earth tomorrow would be if it were on a collision course with the Earth so that it would strike us tomorrow, in which case, when you went outside and looked up, this planet would be about the only thing you'd see.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 22, 2017 14:35:39 GMT
Can't decide if she is a genuine nut or someone pretending to be a nut for kicks. What's your opinion? Alittle of column A and alittle of column B. Odd but harmless.
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Post by bonerxmas on Sept 22, 2017 15:58:25 GMT
There's no "eventually" to it if it's supposed to end the world tomorrow. You'd see it now. Exactly... According to this thread that the OP started... Nibiru or Planet X is suppose to destroy our planet tomorrow. but david meade denies that, he says that happens in october or november and media have misquoted him
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