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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 9:57:17 GMT
Billy Stanlake has taken 4wickets in 4 overs to put Australia on top. Pakistan 3143 (8 Overs) 2nd T-20, Zimbabwe Tri-Series. You sure Australia is on top ? All out for 3143 in 8 overs is pretty good going..... Wouldn't want to be chasing that total down myself. If they'd stayed in bat for the whole 20 overs, they'd have scored what, 8 to 10 thousand runs🤔 |
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 2, 2018 10:41:25 GMT
You sure Australia is on top ? All out for 3143 in 8 overs is pretty good going..... Wouldn't want to be chasing that total down myself. If they'd stayed in bat for the whole 20 overs, they'd have scored what, 8 to 10 thousand runs🤔 🤨🤨🤨 🧐🧐🧐 🤔🤔🤔 Correct ! |
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 2, 2018 13:18:40 GMT
Billy Stanlake has taken 4wickets in 4 overs to put Australia on top. Pakistan 3143 (8 Overs) 2nd T-20, Zimbabwe Tri-Series. You sure Australia is on top ? All out for 3143 in 8 overs is pretty good going..... Lol....don't know how I messed that up.
Aussies won it comfortably against the world no.1 team. Finch seems to have found his form finally after struggling a bit initially after his marriage. I hope Aussies can carry the momentum and win the series.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 3, 2018 8:13:15 GMT
India vs England starts today. I predict England to win all 3 formats. I also predict at least one ODI game to have a total of close to 750 runs.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 4, 2018 6:47:58 GMT
Finch scored 172 runs in a t-20 game. Wow.
England definitely needs to not offer India batting pitches. Just make India play on bowling friendly tracks and India will lose easily.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 4, 2018 7:56:22 GMT
Finch scored 172 runs in a t-20 game. Wow. England definitely needs to not offer India batting pitches. Just make India play on bowling friendly tracks and India will lose easily. Against Zimbabwe on a smallish ground made smaller by ropes being in ridiculously far away from the fence and at altitude. Some day at Harare, Johannesburg, Potch or Centurion a bloke like Pandya, Short, Hales, Roy is going to make 200 in an T20 easily because strong armed mishits can go for six. As fro India v England - I’m continually amazed at how much stock Indian fans place in their batting, yet criminally underestimate their bowling. Especially their quicks. In any game, any where, on a pitch good for fast bowling I’d not want to take on India’s quicks. Umesh, Bhuvi, Shami, Ishant, Bumrah, Pandya - all pretty handy. Add to that two wrist spinners who generally like quicker, bouncier pitches in Chalal and Yadav - and it’s a good lineup. To be honest, besides Kohli, India’s batting has been pretty inconsistent for years. Especially in Test Cricket. How many times have guys at 7-8-9 in the order got them out of a hole ? Saha, Ashwin, Jadeja, Jayant - after the top order has failed.... |
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 4, 2018 8:12:27 GMT
Finch scored 172 runs in a t-20 game. Wow. England definitely needs to not offer India batting pitches. Just make India play on bowling friendly tracks and India will lose easily. Against Zimbabwe on a smallish ground made smaller by ropes being in ridiculously far away from the fence and at altitude. Some day at Harare, Johannesburg, Potch or Centurion a bloke like Pandya, Short, Hales, Roy is going to make 200 in an T20 easily because strong armed mishits can go for six. As fro India v England - I’m continually amazed at how much stock Indian fans place in their batting, yet criminally underestimate their bowling. Especially their quicks. In any game, any where, on a pitch good for fast bowling I’d not want to take on India’s quicks. Umesh, Bhuvi, Shami, Ishant, Bumrah, Pandya - all pretty handy. Add to that two wrist spinners who generally like quicker, bouncier pitches in Chalal and Yadav - and it’s a good lineup. To be honest, besides Kohli, India’s batting has been pretty inconsistent for years. Especially in Test Cricket. How many times have guys at 7-8-9 in the order got them out of a hole ? Saha, Ashwin, Jadeja, Jayant - after the top order has failed.... I do agree that current Indian bowling line up is better than it has ever been in past. That reinforces the view that Kohli's captaincy during the South Africa series was exceedingly bad in that they failed to win the series. That said, England should attack India's weak point and that is their batting which can't deliver in good bowling conditions.
For some reason I have a great dislike for this player called Pandya. He has an awful batting technique and can't really perform in Test cricket even if he got a fluke 90 in SA. He isn't a long term option for Tests just as Maxwell isn't but Kohli thinks otherwise because he is a dubious captain.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 4, 2018 10:42:24 GMT
You know what he has that a lot of players don’t, and doesn’t show up in any stats at all - X factor. All rounders in general tend to have it more than other cricketers, but quite a lot of all rounders are ‘students’ of the game, adept, straight. Guys like Kallis, Pollock, Dev, Khan, Mathews, Shakib. Then there is the rogue, the unpredictable, the dash and elan, the bloke the girls want. Miller, Botham, Mitchell Johnson, Flintoff, Yuvraj, Afridi. Hardik Pandya is in the second category. Stats and technique is meaningless. Twinkle of the eye, crowd rising and pumping to an enigma, something out of nothing - flash of sheer brilliance. That’s why you pick him....
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 4, 2018 18:50:36 GMT
You know what he has that a lot of players don’t, and doesn’t show up in any stats at all - X factor. All rounders in general tend to have it more than other cricketers, but quite a lot of all rounders are ‘students’ of the game, adept, straight. Guys like Kallis, Pollock, Dev, Khan, Mathews, Shakib. Then there is the rogue, the unpredictable, the dash and elan, the bloke the girls want. Miller, Botham, Mitchell Johnson, Flintoff, Yuvraj, Afridi. Hardik Pandya is in the second category. Stats and technique is meaningless. Twinkle of the eye, crowd rising and pumping to an enigma, something out of nothing - flash of sheer brilliance. That’s why you pick him.... I wonder which category you would put Chris Cairns and MSD? 1 or 2? |
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 5, 2018 3:47:41 GMT
You know what he has that a lot of players don’t, and doesn’t show up in any stats at all - X factor. All rounders in general tend to have it more than other cricketers, but quite a lot of all rounders are ‘students’ of the game, adept, straight. Guys like Kallis, Pollock, Dev, Khan, Mathews, Shakib. Then there is the rogue, the unpredictable, the dash and elan, the bloke the girls want. Miller, Botham, Mitchell Johnson, Flintoff, Yuvraj, Afridi. Hardik Pandya is in the second category. Stats and technique is meaningless. Twinkle of the eye, crowd rising and pumping to an enigma, something out of nothing - flash of sheer brilliance. That’s why you pick him.... I wonder which category you would put Chris Cairns and MSD? 1 or 2? Chris Cairns is definitely catergory 2. He actually batted (and bowled) better when he kept it ‘proper’ and built a base first. But he just didn’t. He’d play 3-4 crap games, then all of a sudden bang, match winning performance. MSD is more 1 than 2. Match winner, capable of some amazing things, but he was consistently good and second only to Gilchrist as a keeper batsman ever. Put it this way, have you ever thought about MSD, and thought something like “He’s mercurial, we can forgive him some silly shots and bad decisions because he can win us a game” or “Is he a luxury player we can’t afford to carry in case he doesn’t ‘show up’ ?” I don’t think I ever have/did. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 5, 2018 6:40:14 GMT
Meanwhile Bangladesh which were flying high a couple of years ago are suddenly panicking. They were bowled out for just 43 by WI in the first innings. Reminds me of 1993 odi game when Pakistan were dismissed for the same score by WI.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 7, 2018 0:34:16 GMT
England put a pretty solid performance to tie the series.
Pakistan vs Australia final should be pretty interesting!
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 7, 2018 2:23:55 GMT
I wish I could see some of the India v England games, but not on Aussie TV....😕
Bangladesh had an absolute shocker against the Windies, losing by an innings and 219 runs. At one stage, it looked possible that they’d be bowled out for under 50 in both innings 😳
Australia v Pakistan will be interesting. I saw some Australian media outlets weren’t happy that Australia lost previously to Pakistan because it cost them the Number 1 ranking. I had no idea Australia was ranked so high in T20 cricket.....
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 8, 2018 13:32:55 GMT
I wish I could see some of the India v England games, but not on Aussie TV....😕 Bangladesh had an absolute shocker against the Windies, losing by an innings and 219 runs. At one stage, it looked possible that they’d be bowled out for under 50 in both innings 😳 Australia v Pakistan will be interesting. I saw some Australian media outlets weren’t happy that Australia lost previously to Pakistan because it cost them the Number 1 ranking. I had no idea Australia was ranked so high in T20 cricket..... Indians are being humiliated by hard hitting English openers. 5.5 overs and 72/0
I was not aware that Aussies are ranked so highly in t-20. It is one format in which Aussies have not dominated the game at any point in history.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 13, 2018 3:20:45 GMT
So 3 International games on as of last night.
India demolished England in a ODI at Trent Bridge. England were bowled out for 268, which India chased down with 8 wickets and 10 overs to spare. Sigh. I remember when 268 was an almost impossible chase.....
West Indies are again doing the business against Bangladesh. 295/4 after being sent in is a good day of cricket. Can’t quite work out why Bangladesh, a team reliant on spinners, bowls first.
And in the most even contest, Sri Lanka all out 287 (Karunaratne carried his bat for 158*), South Africa 4/1 in reply, Markram falling to the most underrrated bowler of the last decade, Rangana Herath, in Galle.....
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 13, 2018 12:38:23 GMT
So 3 International games on as of last night. India demolished England in a ODI at Trent Bridge. England were bowled out for 268, which India chased down with 8 wickets and 10 overs to spare. Sigh. I remember when 268 was an almost impossible chase..... West Indies are again doing the business against Bangladesh. 295/4 after being sent in is a good day of cricket. Can’t quite work out why Bangladesh, a team reliant on spinners, bowls first. And in the most even contest, Sri Lanka all out 287 (Karunaratne carried his bat for 158*), South Africa 4/1 in reply, Markram falling to the most underrrated bowler of the last decade, Rangana Herath, in Galle..... I am very disappointed by SA's efforts. But at the same time I do like to give credit to SL who used just 4 bowlers and managed to get SA so cheaply. SL seriously started their bowling with 2 spinners? I need to find highlights now.
I am yet again disappointed by England's pitches. We need grassy tracks. I read user comments on UK's Guardian paper.
Some interesting ones by English people
This is not true. England batsmen may struggle on green top but Indian batsmen will struggle even more. While India has some good bowlers now such as Bhuvi, Yadav, Bumrah etc., India's batsmen are still flat track bullies. Give them green top and they will fall like a pack of cards. Yes, I do accept that even English batsmen may find it difficult to play on green pitches. But England should go for that.
Also, in every match so far England has looked unstoppable until the wrist spinners arrived. So once England starts picking up the spinners India will be on backfoot. I predict England's victory in test series and they can still comeback in ODIs.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 13, 2018 16:54:37 GMT
So 3 International games on as of last night. India demolished England in a ODI at Trent Bridge. England were bowled out for 268, which India chased down with 8 wickets and 10 overs to spare. Sigh. I remember when 268 was an almost impossible chase..... West Indies are again doing the business against Bangladesh. 295/4 after being sent in is a good day of cricket. Can’t quite work out why Bangladesh, a team reliant on spinners, bowls first. And in the most even contest, Sri Lanka all out 287 (Karunaratne carried his bat for 158*), South Africa 4/1 in reply, Markram falling to the most underrrated bowler of the last decade, Rangana Herath, in Galle..... I am very disappointed by SA's efforts. But at the same time I do like to give credit to SL who used just 4 bowlers and managed to get SA so cheaply. SL seriously started their bowling with 2 spinners? I need to find highlights now.
I am yet again disappointed by England's pitches. We need grassy tracks. I read user comments on UK's Guardian paper.
Some interesting ones by English people
This is not true. England batsmen may struggle on green top but Indian batsmen will struggle even more. While India has some good bowlers now such as Bhuvi, Yadav, Bumrah etc., India's batsmen are still flat track bullies. Give them green top and they will fall like a pack of cards. Yes, I do accept that even English batsmen may find it difficult to play on green pitches. But England should go for that.
Also, in every match so far England has looked unstoppable until the wrist spinners arrived. So once England starts picking up the spinners India will be on backfoot. I predict England's victory in test series and they can still comeback in ODIs.
Only saw highlights of all the games. SL bowled some good eggs TBH. And, South Africa isn’t exactly known for its ability against spin bowling. I again have to disagree with you about the green tops. Sporting pitches I’m all for. But green tops in ODI’s aren’t a great idea. It adds to much ‘luck’ into the proceedings. England simply need to play quality spinners better. |
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Post by weststigersbob on Jul 13, 2018 16:58:21 GMT
www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1151446/who-is-the-best-nightwatchman-of-all-timeJust read this article about night watchmen. The author rightly picks one of the best innings I’ve ever seen as his best. Jason Gillespie’s 26. I have often stated that this innings is the premium example of what makes a Test Cricket so much different to any other sport in the World. Try to explain to someone that a 150 odd ball 26 run innings by a bloke batting as a night watchman, who has never seen cricket before, why it’s such a great innings. Good Luck with that. And quietly, it’s part of what makes that innings great. I know why, and only a cricket lover would.....
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 13, 2018 18:35:33 GMT
www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1151446/who-is-the-best-nightwatchman-of-all-timeJust read this article about night watchmen. The author rightly picks one of the best innings I’ve ever seen as his best. Jason Gillespie’s 26. I have often stated that this innings is the premium example of what makes a Test Cricket so much different to any other sport in the World. Try to explain to someone that a 150 odd ball 26 run innings by a bloke batting as a night watchman, who has never seen cricket before, why it’s such a great innings. Good Luck with that. And quietly, it’s part of what makes that innings great. I know why, and only a cricket lover would..... Totally agree. That's why I rate Eng vs SA in 2009-10 as one of my all-time favourite series.. The tailenders battled all the way to save England on two occasions. Lower order batsmen (whether as night watchman or in normal position) battling on a tough wicket on 5th day of a Test match is one of the most tense moments in any sport. Almost nothing beats the beauty, excitement and darkness of such a situation. Gillespie's innings was indeed so crucial in the situation Australia were and had it not been for him the match might have ended on day 4. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 14, 2018 20:20:56 GMT
England finally play according to their true potential and thrash India. Their best batsman finally showed maturity and tried to bat rather than look for fireworks all the time. Great finish by Wiley as well!
From what I understand from reading cricinfo Indian batsmen struggled against spin. So good signs for England.
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