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Post by sandwichclegane on Sept 24, 2017 18:01:26 GMT
I dont see Zemo as a villian, he seemed like a nice guy who was just affected by the death of his family and wanted those those held to blame punished, I dont think he would kill or hurt people because they are related to his enemies Don't bother with DC Fan. Thats kinda racist yo
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 24, 2017 18:01:37 GMT
All of them are lame, but if you're talking about "lamest", it's either Civil War or SMH.
Civil War
Zemo: "The Avengers killed my family. But even though I know all of their identities, I'm not going to do the logical thing and target their families ad loved ones. Instead, I'm going to come up with the most convoluted plot in CBM history where I find the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago of Bucky killing the Starks on a random road in the middle of nowhere (where a random camera just happen to be in the right position and right angle to record the killings) but instead of uploading the video to the Internet for everyone to see that Bucky is a murderer, I'm going to wait for Bucky, Captain America, and Iron Man to all show up at a remote base in Siberia at the same time (which I know will happen because I read that in the script) so they can all watch the video together."
Ant-Man: "I said in my movie that I want to be a superhero so my daughter will be proud of her ex-con dad. So I'm going to aid and abet a double-murderer to escape from the authorities because that'll really make my daughter proud of her ex-con dad."
Hawkeye: "I'm going to abandon the girlfriend and little kids at home and go halfway around the world to aid and abet a double-murderer to escape from the authorities because helping a double-murderer escape takes priority over family."
Iron Man: "I know that Bucky and Cap are going to show up a the airport to hijack the quinjet to make their escape. So being the strategic genius that I am, I'm going to set up an escape-proof trap for them. And my plan is to kidnap a 15-year-old high school kid from New York and transport him out of the country under false pretenses lying to his legal guardian and then call the kid to come down from the roof. Yep, that's my escape-proof plan and it's going to work because I'm a strategic genius."
SMH
A ferry boat splits in half and the writers actually thought that just pushing together the 2 split halves of the boat can stop the boat from sinking.
Peter's best friend brings a bomb into the Washington Monument and blows up the elevator, but DHS, FBI, and DC Police don't even detain and question him. It's nice to know your bias DC-Fan.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 24, 2017 19:03:47 GMT
Also Age of Ultron was really good too. I have to say, I would really hate to have the mindset that films that good as "lame". I'm not sure how you're a fan of the genre' if that's the case. I love dozens of superhero films. I find CA:CW watchable but AOU? No freaking way. "no freaking way"? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not saying it's the greatest film ever, but saying "no freaking way" about it? Where is the problem?
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Post by poelzig on Sept 24, 2017 19:06:30 GMT
Iron Man 3 Avengers 2: Age of Ultron Thor Blade Actually Blade is better than most mcu movies. Also there wouldn't be mcu movies if not for Blade.
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Post by sandwichclegane on Sept 24, 2017 19:08:44 GMT
Actually Blade is better than most mcu movies. Also there wouldn't be mcu movies if not for Blade. again, you have no proof lol
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 25, 2017 2:59:58 GMT
Ant-Man, Thors
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 25, 2017 8:24:17 GMT
Thor: The Dark World
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Post by charzhino on Sept 25, 2017 13:52:03 GMT
Iron Man 3 GotG Age of Ultron Civil War Ant Man Doctor Strange Homecoming Thor 2
If all these just toned down the lame attempts at humour and silly gags especially during serious moment's, they would be half decent films. Everything like the Mandarin reveal, the silly jokes during the airport scene, the stupid antics of Darcy during the final battle, the lame dance off with Ronan, Ultrons humour level, the childish Tommy the Tank engine setup, the goofy Casper the ghost moment with Rachel McAdams. All should have been erased and replaced with better writing.
But no, MCU movies are default comedies and cant miss any opportunity to make the audience laugh at detriment to tone.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 25, 2017 15:27:47 GMT
The MCU hasn't made any lame movies. Iron Man 3 is the least awesome of the bunch so far.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 15:38:56 GMT
Iron Man 3 GotG Age of Ultron Civil War Ant Man Doctor Strange Homecoming Thor 2 If all these just toned down the lame attempts at humour and silly gags especially during serious moment's, they would be half decent films. Everything like the Mandarin reveal, the silly jokes during the airport scene, the stupid antics of Darcy during the final battle, the lame dance off with Ronan, Ultrons humour level, the childish Tommy the Tank engine setup, the goofy Casper the ghost moment with Rachel McAdams. All should have been erased and replaced with better writing. But no, MCU movies are default comedies and cant miss any opportunity to make the audience laugh at detriment to tone. Oh yeah, I forgot to add GOTG2. That's right up there as one of the lamest.
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Post by Peter B. Parker on Sept 25, 2017 18:09:17 GMT
Iron Man 3 GotG Age of Ultron Civil War Ant Man Doctor Strange Homecoming Thor 2 If all these just toned down the lame attempts at humour and silly gags especially during serious moment's, they would be half decent films. Everything like the Mandarin reveal, the silly jokes during the airport scene, the stupid antics of Darcy during the final battle, the lame dance off with Ronan, Ultrons humour level, the childish Tommy the Tank engine setup, the goofy Casper the ghost moment with Rachel McAdams. All should have been erased and replaced with better writing. But no, MCU movies are default comedies and cant miss any opportunity to make the audience laugh at detriment to tone. You do realise that there are X-Men boards? The people who post on there might take your opinions seriously.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 25, 2017 18:15:25 GMT
The MCU hasn't made any lame movies. Iron Man 3 is the least awesome of the bunch so far. This, except I think Iron Man 2 was the least awesome. Iron Man 3 was good IMO.
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Post by charzhino on Sept 25, 2017 20:20:49 GMT
Iron Man 3 GotG Age of Ultron Civil War Ant Man Doctor Strange Homecoming Thor 2 If all these just toned down the lame attempts at humour and silly gags especially during serious moment's, they would be half decent films. Everything like the Mandarin reveal, the silly jokes during the airport scene, the stupid antics of Darcy during the final battle, the lame dance off with Ronan, Ultrons humour level, the childish Tommy the Tank engine setup, the goofy Casper the ghost moment with Rachel McAdams. All should have been erased and replaced with better writing. But no, MCU movies are default comedies and cant miss any opportunity to make the audience laugh at detriment to tone. You do realise that there are X-Men boards? The people who post on there might take your opinions seriously. Sorry for giving my opinion on a topic which is subjective and hurting your precious feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 20:22:59 GMT
I wouldnt call the movie lame because I still enjoy it but Thor The Dark World is my least favourite MCU movie.
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Post by dazz on Sept 25, 2017 23:19:38 GMT
Thor 2 & Iron Man 2, even then I kind of like them but they are imo the worst films in the MCU, Thor 2 I could deal with if the humans in the film weren't such jokes, the dude running around naked and Kat Dennings character's screw ballness is just bleh, much preferred both in Thor 1, they provide some fun but aren't sitcom characters like they feel like in Thor 2.
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 26, 2017 12:32:20 GMT
I wouldnt call the movie lame because I still enjoy it but Thor The Dark World is my least favourite MCU movie. I agree with this 100%. I do not get the hate for Thor. I loved that movie and still do. Thor 2, on the other hand, was the worst MCU movie. Not terrible, but the worst one. People saying movies like Civil War, GOTG, and Spiderman Homecoming must just be trolling. All three were very good and very well received. I actually admit that I find Civil War to be overrated, much like Wonder Woman. Sure, I liked it a lot and gave it a 7/10, but the talk of masterpiece was always hilarious to me. Winter Soldier is far superior.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 26, 2017 12:45:06 GMT
Iron Man 3 GotG Age of Ultron Civil War Ant Man Doctor Strange Homecoming Thor 2 If all these just toned down the lame attempts at humour and silly gags especially during serious moment's, they would be half decent films. Everything like the Mandarin reveal, the silly jokes during the airport scene, the stupid antics of Darcy during the final battle, the lame dance off with Ronan, Ultrons humour level, the childish Tommy the Tank engine setup, the goofy Casper the ghost moment with Rachel McAdams. All should have been erased and replaced with better writing. But no, MCU movies are default comedies and cant miss any opportunity to make the audience laugh at detriment to tone. So basically have absolutely no humanity at all and just make all the leads flat archetypes who do nothing but scowl. The Mandarin reveal was pretty smart. The jokes during the airport fight were to make it clear no one there really WANTED to fight or kill one another except Black Panther (who was humorless, see the contrast?). The Ronan thing was a distraction, and you'd be complaining no matter WHAT they did to distract him. Ultron's humor was no different from Magneto's humor in the X-Men movies. It was a little kid's room, what kind of stuff you think will be in there? Uh, that spirit fight in Dr Strange was awesome. Basically you want all inventiveness removed in place of something bland and generic, like the X-Men movies.
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Post by miike80 on Sept 26, 2017 12:48:20 GMT
not sure about lame but i definitely don't like:
IM2 IM3 Thor Thor2 And my least favorite: Antman- you couldn't pay me enough to watch it again
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Post by charzhino on Sept 26, 2017 13:35:18 GMT
So basically have absolutely no humanity at all and just make all the leads flat archetypes who do nothing but scowl. Nah, just make the films less goofy. The main Avengers all have enough humanity without the need for all that extra crap. Smart to the point Kinglsey started to joke around and play a silly bafoon. Why couldn't he be just a normal person who Killian framed to be the Mandarin. No need for stupid, lame over the top jokes and a comedy sketch. No the jokes just added to the stupidity of the fight itself. No one really wanted to hurt each other, yet they evacuate the airport incase citizens dont get hurt whilst throwing trucks at each other and launching people into airplanes. The premise of the fight doesn't add up. Rhodey gets paralysed which shows how idiotic Stark was again by bringing Spider kid when the same could have easily happened to him. The fight sequence in isolation is entertaining, I can go watch it now on YouTube now and enjoy it but on critical analysis in the context of the film, it falls apart narratively. The jokes are a clever ploy to make the audience forget about the feasibility of the action. They turned Ronan into a Disney villain. Its like the same trick used by Marty in Back to the Future where he points & says, he whats that, to Biff who falls for it every time. Its the most basic method to defeat a villain thus its lame. Ultron should have used similar speech to Apocalypse. No one takes a evil villain who jokes/quips seriously about destroying the world. A lot of critics and audience reviews said Ultron wasn't intimidating enough as portrayed in the early trailers- and they were right. Just wasnt convincing. Na X-Men movies get the balance and timing between levity and darkness perfectly more than any other studio.
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 26, 2017 13:55:01 GMT
Nah, just make the films less goofy. The main Avengers all have enough humanity without the need for all that extra crap. To you, less goofy means going for that bankrupt "grounded" approach where it's all "See, there's no elements of a superhero world here! It's all REALISTIC AND JUST LIKE THE REAL WORLD!" garbage. IE, no aliens or magic, boring costumes, etc. To show a total contrast between his "stage performance" and his real self. Like with real actors. Which was to show, once again, that Tony is a flawed person who doesn't always make the right choices. He sent Peter home once he realized the kid could've gotten hurt. Unlike X-Men where no one calls out Xavier on how he's a Cult Leader (no, Mystique and Magneto don't count because they're no better). If he was a Disney villain, it wouldn't have taken as much as an Infinity Stone to stop him. And no one complains there. Pompous and empty? Tell that to the Joker or Angelus from Buffy. If you wanted something pretentious instead of more organic. No, they're just pretentious and are the last bastion for people ashamed of comics.[/quote][/quote]
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