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Post by cupcakes on Oct 5, 2017 22:46:40 GMT
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 5, 2017 22:52:02 GMT
Are you saying that you're using the word "exist" to only refer to objective things? Not at all. So then why are you asking me if it's "tangible and objective"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 23:21:04 GMT
I'm talking biologically, it doesn't make sense. How does it not make sense biologically? Sexual arousal is proven to be effected by your mentality. If you’re insecure, you’re so focused on your anxiety, you cannot become aroused. If you’re angry, you can’t focus on arousal. Well, biologically a woman is supposed to see a man’s physique and her brain tells her he’s strong, protective, provider (which is why muscles are attractive). This triggers the clitoris to stimulate and lubricates the vagina to prepare for a penis to penetrate. A vagina is made to “take” a penis. The male sees hips, breasts, butt, etc, and they become erect, ready to penetrate. All in he name od procreation. A man’s ass isn’t made for penetration, it has to be lubricated and stretched. If you have to make special specifications to have sex, it isn’t natural. All “not natural” means is it isn’t created for that. An anus is created as an exit. A female ale has to use her fingers, tounge, or dildo to penetrate another female, again, that is altered assistance, not natural. The reason a male is attracted to a male or a female is attracted to a female is the brain’s deficiency in either creation or development. You aren’t born gay biologically, your brain develops differently causing sexual confusion/arousal.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 5, 2017 23:39:40 GMT
Finally, you have got it! Well, it is happening, but under the pretense of reality.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 5, 2017 23:41:06 GMT
So then why are you asking me if it's "tangible and objective"? Perhaps a touch of sarcasm. You made the statement, due to your belief in solid reality and nothing more.
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 6, 2017 0:12:07 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Oct 6, 2017 0:19:51 GMT
How does it not make sense biologically? Sexual arousal is proven to be effected by your mentality. If you’re insecure, you’re so focused on your anxiety, you cannot become aroused. If you’re angry, you can’t focus on arousal. Well, biologically a woman is supposed to see a man’s physique and her brain tells her he’s strong, protective, provider (which is why muscles are attractive). This triggers the clitoris to stimulate and lubricates the vagina to prepare for a penis to penetrate. A vagina is made to “take” a penis. The male sees hips, breasts, butt, etc, and they become erect, ready to penetrate. All in he name od procreation. A man’s ass isn’t made for penetration, it has to be lubricated and stretched. If you have to make special specifications to have sex, it isn’t natural. All “not natural” means is it isn’t created for that. An anus is created as an exit. A female ale has to use her fingers, tounge, or dildo to penetrate another female, again, that is altered assistance, not natural. The reason a male is attracted to a male or a female is attracted to a female is the brain’s deficiency in either creation or development. You aren’t born gay biologically, your brain develops differently causing sexual confusion/arousal. So me using my fingers and tongue on my wife is unnatural, as is anal sex between heterosexuals, thanks for pointing that out. May I point out that the first part of your post says that sexual arousal is proven to be affected by your mentality, using that logic as a man who is gay gets aroused by another man, perfectly natural according to your logic. Your stance that people are not born gay is inconclusive at best, it is still undetermined. Sometimes I have to use lube to have sex with a girl, I suppose that means we are unnatural as well? Can you also explain why homosexuality is unnatural if it is found in nature? So far your points are unconvincing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 0:25:41 GMT
Sexual arousal is proven to be effected by your mentality. If you’re insecure, you’re so focused on your anxiety, you cannot become aroused. If you’re angry, you can’t focus on arousal. Well, biologically a woman is supposed to see a man’s physique and her brain tells her he’s strong, protective, provider (which is why muscles are attractive). This triggers the clitoris to stimulate and lubricates the vagina to prepare for a penis to penetrate. A vagina is made to “take” a penis. The male sees hips, breasts, butt, etc, and they become erect, ready to penetrate. All in he name od procreation. A man’s ass isn’t made for penetration, it has to be lubricated and stretched. If you have to make special specifications to have sex, it isn’t natural. All “not natural” means is it isn’t created for that. An anus is created as an exit. A female ale has to use her fingers, tounge, or dildo to penetrate another female, again, that is altered assistance, not natural. The reason a male is attracted to a male or a female is attracted to a female is the brain’s deficiency in either creation or development. You aren’t born gay biologically, your brain develops differently causing sexual confusion/arousal. So me using my fingers and tongue on my wife is unnatural, as is anal sex between heterosexuals, thanks for pointing that out. May I point out that the first part of your post says that sexual arousal is proven to be affected by your mentality, using that logic as a man who is gay gets aroused by another man, perfectly natural according to your logic. Your stance that people are not born gay is inconclusive at best, it is still undetermined. Sometimes I have to use lube to have sex with a girl, I suppose that means we are unnatural as well? Can you also explain why homosexuality is unnatural if it is found in nature? So far your points are unconvincing. It doesn’t matter if you think my points are unconvincing. The truth is obvious, a vagina libricates, a penis penetrates. Simple. That’s natural.
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Post by gadreel on Oct 6, 2017 0:28:30 GMT
So me using my fingers and tongue on my wife is unnatural, as is anal sex between heterosexuals, thanks for pointing that out. May I point out that the first part of your post says that sexual arousal is proven to be affected by your mentality, using that logic as a man who is gay gets aroused by another man, perfectly natural according to your logic. Your stance that people are not born gay is inconclusive at best, it is still undetermined. Sometimes I have to use lube to have sex with a girl, I suppose that means we are unnatural as well? Can you also explain why homosexuality is unnatural if it is found in nature? So far your points are unconvincing. It doesn’t matter if you think my points are unconvincing. The truth is obvious, a vagina libricates, a penis penetrates. Simple. That’s natural. You have not answered my questions, I think that is because you have not understood how flawed your argument is. I forgive you, you clearly have not really thought about why you feel the way you do, if you would like to discuss it I am happy to help you see the flaws in the arguments you presented.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 1:31:51 GMT
So then why are you asking me if it's "tangible and objective"? Perhaps a touch of sarcasm. You made the statement, due to your belief in solid reality and nothing more. My view is not at all that everything is objective. Concepts are subjective, for example. That doesn't imply that they do not exist.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 2:41:42 GMT
Perhaps a touch of sarcasm. You made the statement, due to your belief in solid reality and nothing more. My view is not at all that everything is objective. Concepts are subjective, for example. That doesn't imply that they do not exist. Objective\Subjective, it is all born out of the mind. There is no separateness. Where do your subjective concepts exist\live? Show me, show others! They are your dream and your projection only. Others may share the same perceptions, but ultimately, they are born out of your own mindset and creation.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 2:43:18 GMT
You're a big teapot, short and round...🎶
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 2:49:48 GMT
Sexual arousal is proven to be effected by your mentality. If you’re insecure, you’re so focused on your anxiety, you cannot become aroused. If you’re angry, you can’t focus on arousal. Well, biologically a woman is supposed to see a man’s physique and her brain tells her he’s strong, protective, provider (which is why muscles are attractive). This triggers the clitoris to stimulate and lubricates the vagina to prepare for a penis to penetrate. A vagina is made to “take” a penis. The male sees hips, breasts, butt, etc, and they become erect, ready to penetrate. All in he name od procreation. A man’s ass isn’t made for penetration, it has to be lubricated and stretched. If you have to make special specifications to have sex, it isn’t natural. All “not natural” means is it isn’t created for that. An anus is created as an exit. A female ale has to use her fingers, tounge, or dildo to penetrate another female, again, that is altered assistance, not natural. The reason a male is attracted to a male or a female is attracted to a female is the brain’s deficiency in either creation or development. You aren’t born gay biologically, your brain develops differently causing sexual confusion/arousal. Listen to the professor would you, who thinks he has it all sussed. You do realize, that since heterosexuality is the majority, there are more hets engaging in anal sex than homos. Childbirth is the consequence of heterosexual sex, it is not necessary to procreate every time one has sex. Your argument is ignorant and your perception of natural is really unnatural, due to your arrogance and conceit. And just because someone is homosexual, doesn't mean they engage in anal sex, and how do you account for male bisexuality?
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 6, 2017 2:52:18 GMT
tpfkar How does it not make sense biologically? Sexual arousal is proven to be effected by your mentality. If you’re insecure, you’re so focused on your anxiety, you cannot become aroused. If you’re angry, you can’t focus on arousal. Well, biologically a woman is supposed to see a man’s physique and her brain tells her he’s strong, protective, provider (which is why muscles are attractive). This triggers the clitoris to stimulate and lubricates the vagina to prepare for a penis to penetrate. A vagina is made to “take” a penis. The male sees hips, breasts, butt, etc, and they become erect, ready to penetrate. All in he name od procreation. A man’s ass isn’t made for penetration, it has to be lubricated and stretched. If you have to make special specifications to have sex, it isn’t natural. All “not natural” means is it isn’t created for that. An anus is created as an exit. A female ale has to use her fingers, tounge, or dildo to penetrate another female, again, that is altered assistance, not natural. The reason a male is attracted to a male or a female is attracted to a female is the brain’s deficiency in either creation or development. You aren’t born gay biologically, your brain develops differently causing sexual confusion/arousal. Good lord you guys really "think" hard about this stuff, don't you. Pretty obviously, not all men and not all females. Also pretty obviously, not only for procreation. And anal sex is both an activity and not of both heterosexuals and homosexuals. And if it happens in nature, it's "natural". You've just applied you particular value system to it. How do you explain these? What Percent of the Population is Gay? More Than You Think
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Post by cupcakes on Oct 6, 2017 2:57:12 GMT
tpfkar You're a big teapot, short and round...🎶 Non-locality is a constant. The goal of electrical impulses is to plant the seeds of grace rather than stagnation. Puffy Cloud
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 3:55:13 GMT
My view is not at all that everything is objective. Concepts are subjective, for example. That doesn't imply that they do not exist. Objective\Subjective, it is all born out of the mind. So then how would it make sense to sarcastically ask if something is objective?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 4:13:09 GMT
Objective\Subjective, it is all born out of the mind. So then how would it make sense to sarcastically ask if something is objective? I am not the one in denial. You are playing devil's advocate, due to obstinance. At the risk of sounding trite, argue for your limitations, you can get to keep them.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 4:13:39 GMT
tpfkar You're a big teapot, short and round...🎶 Non-locality is a constant. The goal of electrical impulses is to plant the seeds of grace rather than stagnation Puffy CloudAnd your point being?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 6, 2017 10:41:37 GMT
So then how would it make sense to sarcastically ask if something is objective? I am not the one in denial. You are playing devil's advocate, due to obstinance. At the risk of sounding trite, argue for your limitations, you can get to keep them. So you're saying that you're sarcastically asking if it's objective from under the umbrella of my views?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 6, 2017 12:07:37 GMT
I am not the one in denial. You are playing devil's advocate, due to obstinance. At the risk of sounding trite, argue for your limitations, you can get to keep them. So you're saying that you're sarcastically asking if it's objective from under the umbrella of my views? You tell me what you meant. You're the one that appears to still be searching from under your umbrella. Isn't that limiting your view. Is that the problem, you can't see the sunshine, due to the clouds?
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