"The Atheist Delusion" by Ray Comfort

That we exist as supercharged waveforms, of course. Serenity is the driver of wonder.  Awake yourself, sunshine.  

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Well, the thing is that I don't write something other than "what I mean."  So, for example, in response to you saying that the types-of-atheism distinction was "phony" and "didn't exist," I said, "Your comment here doesn't make much sense. The distinction between different types of atheism is a conceptual distinction, and as such is mental in nature, but that doesn't make it not exist."  That was what I "meant," which is why I'd type that rather than other things I could type instead.  

Which prompted this discussion. You said earlier that concepts are subjective, but it doesn't mean they don't exist. My question to you, is how does it make them exist? If it's a concept born out of the mental thinking mind, who's concept\projection is it? So what is it that you really mean?

So the concept is in the minds of the people who hold that concept. It's in those individuals' minds. It exists simply because they have that concept. It's present mentally for them.

What?   "It is only existing for what is perceived as objective reality" makes no sense.  First of all, why are you introducing "objective reality" here?

Why the hell would you be talking about perceiving anything or objective reality when we're talking about concepts though??

Do you believe that we perceive concepts?? As "objective reality"? That makes zero sense to me. You'd have to explain what I'd consider a completely bizarre view.

If they exist, it doesn't imply that they're objective, unless you are using the term "exist" in a particular traditional way, which is why I commented on that and asked you if you were using the term that way.  I was trying to understand your comment.

In my view, anything that exists is physical.

Physical, however, does NOT imply "objective."

The subjective/objective distinction is a distinction of location.  Subjective "things" are things "of" or "in" a mind, which is a brain functioning in particular, mental ways.  Objective "things" are located in the complement of that--namely, outside of a brain functioning in particular, mental ways.

Concepts are in no way objective.  They're subjective.  They're mental phenomena.  They're an individual's brain functioning in a particular, mental way.  We don't perceive concepts.  We create them.  They exist because we create them and have them in mind.  There's nothing objective about them, though.

So if someone has a concept in mind, then that concept exists (as whatever it is in that person's mind).  It's not "phony."  A "phony"/"genuine" distinction would be incoherent there.  Either the person has whatever concept or they do not.  And it's not non-existent.

If you were trying to say something about concepts being physical, two points are pertinent:

One, I said absolutely nothing about that or that hinged on that in any way at any previous point in this thread.  I only brought it up just now, because YOU just brought it up two posts ago.  So why were you bringing this up?

And two, why not just come right out and say, "In my view, the idea that concepts are physical is an illusion."

I'd wonder why we'd suddenly be talking about that, but just plainly state what you want to say.

Also, that would have NOTHING to do with your comment about atheist types being "phony" and "not existing."  That comment still makes ZERO SENSE in the context of you wanting for some reason to say that the idea that concepts are physical is an illusion.

Suppose that idealism or even solipsism were true.  Well, in that scenario, saying that the concept of different types of atheism is "phony" or "doesn't exist" makes zero sense.

This is an idiotic comment.  If someone has a concept, then that concept exists.  It doesn't matter what the concept is.  It could be a concept of the present king of France.  It could be a mental image of the Great Green Arkleseizure.  Whatever.  All that's required for a concept to exist is that someone has that concept.