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Post by Agent of Chaos on Sept 30, 2017 15:50:45 GMT
I just reread the original Dark Phoenix Saga and it was 99% on earth or near it. So I don't understand why people are getting upset at the movie version not being too intergalactic when the source material was only intergalactic for a few pages when Jean eats a star...then the story goes straight back to our solar system.
Do people just don't know that intergalactic refers to traveling to other galaxies, just utter ignorant about galaxies, or didn't read/remember Dark Phoenix?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 16:42:44 GMT
We're upset because the Dark Phoenix Saga is a chance for the X-Men series to actually do something different. Yeah, since when has the source material ever been a real factor when they can't even get any of the characters right?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 1, 2017 16:27:49 GMT
We're upset because the Dark Phoenix Saga is a chance for the X-Men series to actually do something different. Yeah, since when has the source material ever been a real factor when they can't even get any of the characters right? Saw me a single post that is not by you that says this.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 1, 2017 20:52:44 GMT
I just reread the original Dark Phoenix Saga and it was 99% on earth or near it. So I don't understand why people are getting upset at the movie version not being too intergalactic when the source material was only intergalactic for a few pages when Jean eats a star...then the story goes straight back to our solar system. Do people just don't know that inter galactic refers to traveling to other galaxies, just utter ignorant about galaxies, or didn't read/remember Dark Phoenix? Because we don't want another creatively bankrupt "grounded" film that ignores all the cool stuff in X-Men in favor of just more of the same old.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 1, 2017 22:44:58 GMT
I just reread the original Dark Phoenix Saga and it was 99% on earth or near it. So I don't understand why people are getting upset at the movie version not being too intergalactic when the source material was only intergalactic for a few pages when Jean eats a star...then the story goes straight back to our solar system. Do people just don't know that inter galactic refers to traveling to other galaxies, just utter ignorant about galaxies, or didn't read/remember Dark Phoenix? Because we don't want another creatively bankrupt "grounded" film that ignores all the cool stuff in X-Men in favor of just more of the same old. I bet you don't even know what grounded means. The dictionary is your friend.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 1, 2017 23:50:27 GMT
Because we don't want another creatively bankrupt "grounded" film that ignores all the cool stuff in X-Men in favor of just more of the same old. I bet you don't even know what grounded means. The dictionary is your friend. Trying to pretend that their world is ours but only with superheroes and that everything is as "realistic" as possible. Instead of just accepting they exist in an over-the-top Universe with Aliens and Magic and Space Travel and Dinosaurs and all that cool stuff. That's these movies and their "groundedness".
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 0:30:42 GMT
I bet you don't even know what grounded means. The dictionary is your friend. Trying to pretend that their world is ours but only with superheroes and that everything is as "realistic" as possible. Instead of just accepting they exist in an over-the-top Universe with Aliens and Magic and Space Travel and Dinosaurs and all that cool stuff. That's these movies and their "groundedness". That's not what grounded means. Yeah, this is just like the people who don't know that intergalactic refers to galaxies.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 2, 2017 0:38:50 GMT
Trying to pretend that their world is ours but only with superheroes and that everything is as "realistic" as possible. Instead of just accepting they exist in an over-the-top Universe with Aliens and Magic and Space Travel and Dinosaurs and all that cool stuff. That's these movies and their "groundedness". That's not what grounded means. In the context of how the X-Men movies have been made, it is. We could've had something awesome like them being in space having adventures with the Starjammers, but instead we just get the same old story over and over again for 17 years.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 0:47:24 GMT
That's not what grounded means. In the context of how the X-Men movies have been made, it is. We could've had something awesome like them being in space having adventures with the Starjammers, but instead we just get the same old story over and over again for 17 years. Yet no one on the creative team used that word to describe such a thing. Just admit you don't know what the word "grounded" means.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 2, 2017 0:54:15 GMT
In the context of how the X-Men movies have been made, it is. We could've had something awesome like them being in space having adventures with the Starjammers, but instead we just get the same old story over and over again for 17 years. Yet no one on the creative team used that word to describe such a thing. Just admit you don't know what the word "grounded" means. They don't need to, it's obvious in how they tell their stories (or rather, their one story). Grounded: Take something that should be flying...and sticking it on the ground where it can't soar.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 1:03:32 GMT
Yet no one on the creative team used that word to describe such a thing. Just admit you don't know what the word "grounded" means. They don't need to, it's obvious in how they tell their stories (or rather, their one story). Grounded: Take something that should be flying...and sticking it on the ground where it can't soar. It means to be earthbound. www.dictionary.com/browse/grounded?s=t
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 1:10:51 GMT
They don't need to, it's obvious in how they tell their stories (or rather, their one story). Grounded: Take something that should be flying...and sticking it on the ground where it can't soar. It means to be earthbound. www.dictionary.com/browse/grounded?s=tthat's exactly what sam said. thank you for confirming it. The FoX-Men films are indeed dull and unimaginative.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 10:10:08 GMT
that's exactly what sam said. thank you for confirming it. The FoX-Men films are indeed dull and unimaginative. No, he was arguing that grounded is slang for not even having magic and aliens by cherry picking one of the definitions that refers to planes. But in reality it mainly refers to location. The Harry Potter series is located on earth and therefore "grounded".
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 2, 2017 10:49:23 GMT
that's exactly what sam said. thank you for confirming it. The FoX-Men films are indeed dull and unimaginative. No, he was arguing that grounded is slang for not even having magic and aliens That's another way for using the term, yes. It basically means taking something that should be soaring (embracing all the cool, over-the-top stuff from the comics) and instead FOX clips its' wings to keep it earthbound and boring.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 10:56:09 GMT
No, he was arguing that grounded is slang for not even having magic and aliens That's another way for using the term, yes. It basically means taking something that should be soaring (embracing all the cool, over-the-top stuff from the comics) and instead FOX clips its' wings to keep it earthbound and boring. Except that word has never been used to describe that. Especially by Kinberg who has used the word for films that featured traveling to other dimensions. It seems that is just something people ignorant of the word's meaning assume.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 2, 2017 10:58:46 GMT
That's another way for using the term, yes. It basically means taking something that should be soaring (embracing all the cool, over-the-top stuff from the comics) and instead FOX clips its' wings to keep it earthbound and boring. Except that word has never been used to describe that. Exspecally, Kinberg who has used the word for films that featured traveling to other dimensions. That's what it refers to though, keeping something that SHOULD be flying FROM flying. It's what has kept X-Men stagnant for so long while MCU and even DCEU try innovation. And Kinberg doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 11:28:29 GMT
Except that word has never been used to describe that. Exspecally, Kinberg who has used the word for films that featured traveling to other dimensions. That's what it refers to though, keeping something that SHOULD be flying FROM flying. It's what has kept X-Men stagnant for so long while MCU and even DCEU try innovation. And Kinberg doesn't know what he's talking about. Except that's not what the dictionary says. Which makes your point invalid. Kinberg just meant that the film primarily took place on earth. Because you know...that's what the word means.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 2, 2017 11:54:16 GMT
That's what it refers to though, keeping something that SHOULD be flying FROM flying. It's what has kept X-Men stagnant for so long while MCU and even DCEU try innovation. And Kinberg doesn't know what he's talking about. Exception that's not what the dictionary says. Which makes your point invalid. Kinberg just meant that the film primarily took place on earth. Because you know...that's what the word means. It's one of the definitions of it when used in context.
Kinberg meant they aren't going to do anything cool with the story, as usual.
Honestly, leave it to them they'd make the Asgardians into some delusional LARPer Cult who live in castle somewhere.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Oct 2, 2017 12:14:44 GMT
Exception that's not what the dictionary says. Which makes your point invalid. Kinberg just meant that the film primarily took place on earth. Because you know...that's what the word means. It's one of the definitions of it when used in context.
Kinberg meant they aren't going to do anything cool with the story, as usual.
Honestly, leave it to them they'd make the Asgardians into some delusional LARPer Cult who live in castle somewhere.
Show me one filmmaker defining the word as such. Otherwise it's just a case of people being too lazy to use the definition and just assume what a word means.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 2, 2017 12:59:34 GMT
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