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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 3, 2017 11:16:55 GMT
Dark knight is a legit good movie,Begins is overated and Risess is bad its better than all MCU movies. Winter Soldier was good and serious Dark Knight needed an omnipotent villain, which automatically disqualifies it. People just went easy on it due to Heath Ledger's you-know-what. Winter Soldier was good, but I wouldn't want the entire MCU like that all the time. Plus it had over-the-top comic book elements to it too.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 3, 2017 11:17:31 GMT
Nah, that's the best part. RDJ makes it natural. Better than any of those silly speeches made in the Dark Knight movies. That's totally unnatural. RDJs comedy has worn out by now, its lame. No more than Hugh Jackman's wannabe Clint Eastwood thing as Wolverine.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 3, 2017 12:43:47 GMT
RDJs comedy has worn out by now, its lame. No more than Hugh Jackman's wannabe Clint Eastwood thing as Wolverine. Wolverine has evolved cinematically over the years since X1. RDJs Ironman has been written as a 1 note hero committing the same mistakes.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 3, 2017 12:59:56 GMT
No more than Hugh Jackman's wannabe Clint Eastwood thing as Wolverine. Wolverine has evolved cinematically over the years since X1. RDJs Ironman has been written as a 1 note hero committing the same mistakes. No he didn't. Whatever growth he underwent was in X1 and only X1. He didn't change much since then. Even in Logan. Of course, doing major time shifts like that is just lazy writing anyways. RDJ went from being utterly irresponsible to someone trying to do something good with his life and doesn't always succeed. Which is what a good 3-D character is supposed to be like. And no, the mistakes he makes aren't always the same ones. It's called not being perfect.
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Post by charzhino on Oct 3, 2017 13:22:03 GMT
Wolverine has evolved cinematically over the years since X1. RDJs Ironman has been written as a 1 note hero committing the same mistakes. No he didn't. Whatever growth he underwent was in X1 and only X1. He didn't change much since then. Even in Logan. Of course, doing major time shifts like that is just lazy writing anyways. RDJ went from being utterly irresponsible to someone trying to do something good with his life and doesn't always succeed. Which is what a good 3-D character is supposed to be like. And no, the mistakes he makes aren't always the same ones. It's called not being perfect. In X1 he went from being a reckless, feral loner to somewhat a raw team player but still didnt play well with others (similar to Stark but Logan learned better) although he didnt stick around. In X2 he fully embraced the family nature of the X-Men solidified by his option to reject Strykers dying plea to turn his back on mutants. In X3 his character evolved into someone who had matured enough to become the leader of the X-Men in the final battle, far from his selfish nature seen in X1. In DOFP, we see a new side to his development as a calm, voice of reason as he challenged young Xavier to alter history against the odds. No longer relying on his famed rage, anger and claws but on his brains. And in Logan we see him broken and susceptible, something only barely touched upon in The Wolverine. So yes his character arc has gone through a lot. Unlike Tony who was reckless in each of his solo films and the Avengers. Hes constantly putting his allies and loved ones in danger without any learning from it. He hasn't changed since IM1 compared to Logan.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 3, 2017 13:41:22 GMT
No he didn't. Whatever growth he underwent was in X1 and only X1. He didn't change much since then. Even in Logan. Of course, doing major time shifts like that is just lazy writing anyways. RDJ went from being utterly irresponsible to someone trying to do something good with his life and doesn't always succeed. Which is what a good 3-D character is supposed to be like. And no, the mistakes he makes aren't always the same ones. It's called not being perfect. In X1 he went from being a reckless, feral loner to somewhat a raw team player but still didnt play well with others And he stayed that way. No, it was pretty much where he ended X1 at. Decades long time skip. Total cop-outs in both because all the development was off-screen. It's just as bad as Xavier becoming a drunk between FC and DOFP and then getting over it in ONE scene. At least Tony's struggle with PTSD was throughout IM3. The Tony in IM1 wouldn't have sided with the Government and believed in Superhero Registration or in trying to mentor younger heroes. In fact, his self in Civil War was pretty clearly NOT the Tony of IM2. Same with Cap. The Cap of First Avenger would've sided with the Government and IM against them but the character development they underwent meant they were the opposite of where you'd expect them. As opposed to Xavier and Magneto, who never learn or change. At the end of every X-Movie they're back to where they started.
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 3, 2017 14:26:07 GMT
Making the moviees comedies is the worst thing mcu has done We need more sophisticated dramas like X-Men, the DECU, and Fantastic Four. You lost all your credibility by citing ‘Fant4stic’ as a positive example...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 15:05:28 GMT
Making the moviees comedies is the worst thing mcu has done We need more sophisticated dramas like X-Men, the DECU, and Fantastic Four.
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Post by thenewnexus on Oct 3, 2017 15:36:00 GMT
Dark knight is a legit good movie,Begins is overated and Risess is bad its better than all MCU movies. Winter Soldier was good and serious Dark Knight needed an omnipotent villain, which automatically disqualifies it. People just went easy on it due to Heath Ledger's you-know-what. Winter Soldier was good, but I wouldn't want the entire MCU like that all the time. Plus it had over-the-top comic book elements to it too. I prefer serious movies with little to no humor. Ledger gave a legit performance thats example of great character acting not what you day RDJ dom
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 3, 2017 16:49:37 GMT
Dark Knight needed an omnipotent villain, which automatically disqualifies it. People just went easy on it due to Heath Ledger's you-know-what. Winter Soldier was good, but I wouldn't want the entire MCU like that all the time. Plus it had over-the-top comic book elements to it too. I prefer serious movies with little to no humor. Ledger gave a legit performance thats example of great character acting not what you day RDJ dom Ledger's Joker was just a bunch of serial killer stereotypes blended together. He only got the Oscar because he died. RDJ has a few Oscar Noms under his belt. Anyways, taking things "super-seriously" creates stuff like Fant4stic.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 4, 2017 0:19:36 GMT
We need more sophisticated dramas like X-Men, the DECU, and Fantastic Four. You lost all your credibility by citing ‘Fant4stic’ as a positive example... Fant4stic a "sophisticated drama"?
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 4, 2017 4:18:22 GMT
You lost all your credibility by citing ‘Fant4stic’ as a positive example... Fant4stic a "sophisticated drama"? I have something better:
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Oct 4, 2017 4:36:36 GMT
Fant4stic a "sophisticated drama"? I have something better:
Both work. I don't recommend this, but Fant4stic is watchable when you're drunk or high.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 4, 2017 14:33:24 GMT
We need more sophisticated dramas like X-Men, the DECU, and Fantastic Four. You lost all your credibility by citing ‘Fant4stic’ as a positive example... Are you sure he wasn't being sarcastic?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2017 15:07:47 GMT
I prefer serious movies with little to no humor. Ledger gave a legit performance thats example of great character acting not what you day RDJ dom Ledger's Joker was just a bunch of serial killer stereotypes blended together. He only got the Oscar because he died. RDJ has a few Oscar Noms under his belt. Anyways, taking things "super-seriously" creates stuff like Fant4stic. Are you saying you hope RDJ dies so he wins an Oscar?! That's messed up, mang. Some things are more important than awards. Innit?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 6, 2017 17:36:23 GMT
Ledger's Joker was just a bunch of serial killer stereotypes blended together. He only got the Oscar because he died. RDJ has a few Oscar Noms under his belt. Anyways, taking things "super-seriously" creates stuff like Fant4stic. Are you saying you hope RDJ dies so he wins an Oscar?! No.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2017 18:00:54 GMT
Are you saying you hope RDJ dies so he wins an Oscar?! No. Would you rather he stay alive but never do another MCU movie and never win an Oscar, or finish out Phase III but he tragically dies and wins one posthumously?
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 6, 2017 18:13:30 GMT
Would you rather he stay alive but never do another MCU movie and never win an Oscar, or finish out Phase III but he tragically dies and wins one posthumously? Neither.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 6, 2017 18:18:17 GMT
Would you rather he stay alive but never do another MCU movie and never win an Oscar, or finish out Phase III but he tragically dies and wins one posthumously? Neither. You must choose! RDJ's life hangs in the balance!
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 6, 2017 18:19:45 GMT
No...no I don't think I have to.
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