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Post by deembastille on May 28, 2018 2:57:48 GMT
oh yes, it's pretty disgusting s man wanting his wife to cook, clean and have children. ALl disgusting degrading activities far beneath any woman. RIcky should be shot for expecting his wife to demean herself like that, He is a vile and evil person. having children indeed! revolting. he could hardly make a more obscene suggestion. THe lowest of the low. Louise, why don't you time-travel back to the 1950's and become Ricky's wife/maid/sex slave? And face his terrible temper when you do the slightest thing that he doesn't approve and have him flapping his gums in Spanish at you? Why don't you live in terror of him day after day, fearing he'd kill you if you bought a new hat? That's what I like about Ethel; she wasn't afraid of her husband and put him in his place whenever the situation warranted it. I often wished that she would finally leave him, but then, she had no marketable skills to survive on her own (she had a beautiful singing voice, but at her advanced age, her chances of employment in music was slim to none), and you know that skinflint Fred would never pay alimony, even if he was sent to jail. well, talking about the kid, where was he half the time as a baby as soon as he was born? asleep. convenient. then they went to first california and then Europe! and right after he was born, lucy resumes her antics... from auditioning for a jitterbug dance to the famous old fashioned salad dressing to writing the novel! then comes the goddamn movie in season 4! and lucy, ethyl and fred [don't they have a building to maintain and run?] have to go too! then in season 5 they are still in california! then when they come home they have a whole two weeks before little ricky starts preschool! how much time and bonding they lost! then the very next week, talk about Europe! fuck me! this poor kid has no parents! then when she is in Italy [srsly, how did they get by in all these countries with only one of them speaking one other language?] she suddenly remembers she farted out a kid and misses him! of course it is on the poor kid's birthday! srsly! and what a bum ricky was!! lucy ends up meeting her mother in law for the first time a year and a half after she has the woman's grandson! and keep in mind they were married for like 9 years before little ricky came! so that is a decade or more! what the fuck is that about?
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Post by snsurone on May 28, 2018 18:17:22 GMT
Y'know, deem--I often wondered if the two sets of twins who played Little Ricky as an infant and a toddler were "juiced" to keep them quiet and compliant. They often looked "zonked"; don't you agree?
I have to admit I kinda liked Keith Thebodoux's (sp?) Little Ricky. Yes, he was annoying a couple of times (especially in the episode "The School Pageant"), but at least he could walk and talk and was going to school full time. It just pissed me off when Lucy still referred to him as "the baby", especially since he was smarter than both his parents! And much as I hate Ricky for his treatment of Lucy, I gotta admit that he was a damn good father to his son, especially upon discovering the boy's talent on the drums. I guess we can expect Little Ricky to be following in his father's footsteps.
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Post by BATouttaheck on May 29, 2018 15:27:02 GMT
Y'know, deem--I often wondered if the two sets of twins who played Little Ricky as an infant and a toddler were "juiced" to keep them quiet and compliant. They often looked "zonked"; don't you agree? Trivia about these "juiced" children There were 5 boys that had the role of "Little Ricky Ricardo". In order, they were [1/6] Jerry Hausner [he was just on off-screen crying voice once] in I Love Lucy: No Children Allowed (1953) & it was also the debut of Elizabeth Patterson, as baby sitter, "Mrs. Trumbull". (Patterson was earlier in as a city official, in I Love Lucy: The Marriage License (1952)). [2/6 & 3/6]: Simmons twin brothers, Richard Lee Simmons and Ronald Lee Simmons, were in only 5 times, all in season two. [4/6 & 5/6]: Mayer twin brothers, Joseph A. Mayer and Michael Mayer were in seasons three, four and five. They were "Little Ricky" 31 times, in the 3 seasons, 16 times in season three, 8 times in season four & 7 times in season five. [6/6]: Richard Keith. He was "Little Ricky" in 24 of season six's 27 episodes. The three without him, are I Love Lucy: Visitor from Italy (1956), I Love Lucy: Lucy and the Loving Cup (1957) plus I Love Lucy: Lucy Wants to Move to the Country (1957). Little Ricky's name is listed 64 times in seasons 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. 12 times Little Ricky Ricardo is uncredited. Three times in season 2. Once in season 3. Five times in season 4. Twice in season 5 & Once in season 6. 3 + 1 + 5 + 2 + 1 = 12.In the "Christmas Show," Kevin Thibodeaux is credited as "Little Ricky."
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Post by deembastille on May 29, 2018 17:55:47 GMT
to BATouttaheck and snsuroneIDK the weird thing is that they and other shows who are about married couples are all 'i wanna have a baby, i wanna have a baby' spent all this time trying to have a baby and then when they do, things suddenly get convenient. their pre-baby schedule and day to day life resumes just like that. even in newer shows and the '90's way of parenting [unconventional compared to 50's standards] they still do the same thing! like, why have the kid? at least shows like Bewitched made the child a good part of the show... of course it doesn't hurt that the basis of the show has the mother being a Glinda. in any event, little Kevin Thibodeaux did a great job as a jr dezi.
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Post by snsurone on May 31, 2018 23:24:12 GMT
Deem, what other shows were like you described?
BTW, the young actor's first name is Keith, not Kevin.
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Post by telegonus on May 31, 2018 23:43:30 GMT
Oh well. I never cared for I Love Lucy much; aside from Fred Mertz the series regular characters were unlikable. Lucy's charms were lost on me. I never found her funny, never even liked her, let alone loved her. The Lucy-Desi marriage didn't feel real to me, even as a kid. I could buy Ralph and Alice, Pete and Gladys, but not Lucy and Desi. Yet I'm so way in the minority on this, it seems. I Love Lucy was a sensation in its heyday, the most popular sitcom of the Fifties. A TV production empire, Desilu, was created from all the money Lucy and Desi made from the series, which enabled them to buy the RKO studio and turn it into Desilu. An amazing accomplishment. Those two must have been doing something right. Desilu produced two fondly remembered non-comedy classic TV series, The Untouchables and Star Trek. The somewhat less classic but highly popular Mission: Impossible was also Desilu.
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Post by deembastille on Jun 1, 2018 0:36:36 GMT
Deem, what other shows were like you described? that was like the entire basis of mad about you. thank god they ended the show when they got the kid/s in King of Queens. and when emma came along in friends...they did the convenient: she's with my mother' crap. and more recently: reba. the show starts out with two bizarre pregnancies -- one from soon to ex husband of reba and his dental hygienist and another from high school student daughter and her boyfriend. we see the daughter's kid often as they all move into reba's house but rarely is brock's and Barbara jean's son mentioned or seen. i don't really watch the show but have started watching online. they have episodes showing on the weekends on the hallmark channel... i see the episodes every once in a while and have rarely seen brocks and Barbara jean's kid. idk. kind of out there but Dallas. just... why have a kid if you are going to pawn him off on a nanny if you don't HAVE to work?
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Post by louise on Jun 8, 2018 17:33:30 GMT
oh yes, it's pretty disgusting s man wanting his wife to cook, clean and have children. ALl disgusting degrading activities far beneath any woman. RIcky should be shot for expecting his wife to demean herself like that, He is a vile and evil person. having children indeed! revolting. he could hardly make a more obscene suggestion. THe lowest of the low. Louise, why don't you time-travel back to the 1950's and become Ricky's wife/maid/sex slave? And face his terrible temper when you do the slightest thing that he doesn't approve and have him flapping his gums in Spanish at you? Why don't you live in terror of him day after day, fearing he'd kill you if you bought a new hat? That's what I like about Ethel; she wasn't afraid of her husband and put him in his place whenever the situation warranted it. I often wished that she would finally leave him, but then, she had no marketable skills to survive on her own (she had a beautiful singing voice, but at her advanced age, her chances of employment in music was slim to none), and you know that skinflint Fred would never pay alimony, even if he was sent to jail. well, for one thing I don't know how to time travel, do you? for another, I couldn't be Ricky Ricardo's wife because he didn't exist, he was a Fictional character on a to show. if I went back to the 50s he wouldn't be there. and for another thing, I don't want to live in America, real or fictional. IF I was going to marry a character from a tv show it wouldn't be Ricky. LUcy did things Ricky didn't approve of all the time, if she'd been really frightened of him she would not have endlessly defied him the way she did. she couldn't care less if he disapproved of anything she did, she was only interested in getting her own way. SHe and Ethel were always doing something crazy, neither of them cared what their husbands thought really. if Ethel had wanted to leave Fred, she could have gone back to her father, who clearly doted on her. I expect she could have got a job in her home town, where she seems to have been held in high esteem.
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Post by marianne48 on Jun 10, 2018 3:38:08 GMT
Ricky Ricardo's sex slave? Hmmmmm, sounds tempting. Compared to many of the other 1950s TV husbands, he was pretty hot. And since I'm nowhere near the compulsive shopper Lucy was, and have no interest in trying to get into show business, maybe he wouldn't be blowing his top all the time.
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Post by Gubbio on Jun 10, 2018 17:17:21 GMT
My dear, snsurone, I see you still have "issues." ____ ____
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2018 19:01:10 GMT
My dear, snsurone, I see you still have "issues." ____ ____ Your note made me LAUGH (quite loudly) so thanks for that ! If you have not seen MsS in action on the Classic Film Board, you are unaware of how many (many) issues are in play.
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Post by Gubbio on Jun 10, 2018 22:13:02 GMT
BATouttaheck I am very well aware. In another thread, she mentions quitting 4 shrinks in 20 years. I would have liked to have been a little fly on those walls !
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2018 22:24:33 GMT
Gubbio L'il Ms S has taken to "asking" posters not to quote me because "Bat is a troll" and announces that I am on her notorious and dreaded ignore list. Never has said just why but I suspect that she just doesn't like off topic questions answered with a link and is pissed because she admired my "cute puppy" avatar which happened to be a Hyena Pup ! (not the current one, another who is even "cuter" ) As for the shrink S and the merlot … no comment needed .
Back to Happier (and more interesting things) like I LOVE LUCY : Episode that comes to mind when thinking MEMORABLE ~ LUCY AND HARPO IN THE MIRROR !
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Post by snsurone on Jun 15, 2018 22:32:11 GMT
My dear, snsurone, I see you still have "issues." ____ ____ Gubbio, did you honesty expect my attitude regarding Ricky Ricardo to change just because IMDb ended the old format and started a new one? That's not being realistic, don't you think?
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Post by snsurone on Jun 15, 2018 22:42:30 GMT
Deem, what other shows were like you described? that was like the entire basis of mad about you. thank god they ended the show when they got the kid/s in King of Queens. and when emma came along in friends...they did the convenient: she's with my mother' crap. and more recently: reba. the show starts out with two bizarre pregnancies -- one from soon to ex husband of reba and his dental hygienist and another from high school student daughter and her boyfriend. we see the daughter's kid often as they all move into reba's house but rarely is brock's and Barbara jean's son mentioned or seen. i don't really watch the show but have started watching online. they have episodes showing on the weekends on the hallmark channel... i see the episodes every once in a while and have rarely seen brocks and Barbara jean's kid. idk. kind of out there but Dallas. just... why have a kid if you are going to pawn him off on a nanny if you don't HAVE to work? Well, deem, there were some shows that had couples without kids and no plans of having any. GREEN ACRES and THE HONEYMOONERS come to mind. And I'm certain that Little Ricky would never have existed had not Lucille Ball didn't become pregnant IRL. Understand, that Ms. Ball had three miscarriages before having daughter Lucie. And she and Snr. Arnaz were thrilled that she carried another pregnancy to term. BTW, to those who say that she should have been photographed hiding behind furniture or holding things in order to hide her "baby bump", well, that would have lessened the comedy of this show. After all, there has to be SOME reality here! All in all, I'm glad that the baby didn't just "disappear", as was the case in McMILLAN AND WIFE.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 15, 2018 22:47:12 GMT
Louise, why don't you time-travel back to the 1950's and become Ricky's wife/maid/sex slave? And face his terrible temper when you do the slightest thing that he doesn't approve and have him flapping his gums in Spanish at you? Why don't you live in terror of him day after day, fearing he'd kill you if you bought a new hat? That's what I like about Ethel; she wasn't afraid of her husband and put him in his place whenever the situation warranted it. I often wished that she would finally leave him, but then, she had no marketable skills to survive on her own (she had a beautiful singing voice, but at her advanced age, her chances of employment in music was slim to none), and you know that skinflint Fred would never pay alimony, even if he was sent to jail. well, for one thing I don't know how to time travel, do you? for another, I couldn't be Ricky Ricardo's wife because he didn't exist, he was a Fictional character on a to show. if I went back to the 50s he wouldn't be there. and for another thing, I don't want to live in America, real or fictional. IF I was going to marry a character from a tv show it wouldn't be Ricky. LUcy did things Ricky didn't approve of all the time, if she'd been really frightened of him she would not have endlessly defied him the way she did. she couldn't care less if he disapproved of anything she did, she was only interested in getting her own way. SHe and Ethel were always doing something crazy, neither of them cared what their husbands thought really. if Ethel had wanted to leave Fred, she could have gone back to her father, who clearly doted on her. I expect she could have got a job in her home town, where she seems to have been held in high esteem. No, I don't know how to time travel. I wish someone could develop that so we could go back to the past and change history. And there are still "Ricky Ricardo's" IRL, despite the progress women have made in the 60+ years since this show aired. Go visit a women's shelter if you don't believe me.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 15, 2018 22:52:51 GMT
BATouttaheck I am very well aware. In another thread, she mentions quitting 4 shrinks in 20 years. I would have liked to have been a little fly on those walls ! I never quit those so-called "shrinks"; THEY quit ME! As I said, they were more concerned about their careers than about their patients! And if you were a fly on the wall, I would have taken great pleasure in swatting you!
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Post by deembastille on Jun 15, 2018 23:43:43 GMT
that was like the entire basis of mad about you. thank god they ended the show when they got the kid/s in King of Queens. and when emma came along in friends...they did the convenient: she's with my mother' crap. and more recently: reba. the show starts out with two bizarre pregnancies -- one from soon to ex husband of reba and his dental hygienist and another from high school student daughter and her boyfriend. we see the daughter's kid often as they all move into reba's house but rarely is brock's and Barbara jean's son mentioned or seen. i don't really watch the show but have started watching online. they have episodes showing on the weekends on the hallmark channel... i see the episodes every once in a while and have rarely seen brocks and Barbara jean's kid. idk. kind of out there but Dallas. just... why have a kid if you are going to pawn him off on a nanny if you don't HAVE to work? Well, deem, there were some shows that had couples without kids and no plans of having any. GREEN ACRES and THE HONEYMOONERS come to mind.
And I'm certain that Little Ricky would never have existed had not Lucille Ball didn't become pregnant IRL. Understand, that Ms. Ball had three miscarriages before having daughter Lucie. And she and Snr. Arnaz were thrilled that she carried another pregnancy to term. BTW, to those who say that she should have been photographed hiding behind furniture or holding things in order to hide her "baby bump", well, that would have lessened the comedy of this show. After all, there has to be SOME reality here! All in all, I'm glad that the baby didn't just "disappear", as was the case in McMILLAN AND WIFE. erm... green acres.. eww! and honeymooners. they didn't fixate on haveakidhaveakidhaveakid but they did have an episode where they adopted a baby and the baby's mother wanted him back. as far as i remember ralph being devastated when he came home and the baby was gone. i think it's called the adoption. i know about little ricky. and i am glad they included the pregnancy into the show but i dislike how they kind of pretended the baby wasn't there. I used to live down the street aways from Lucie Luckinbill and my mother tutored her son. MR Luckinbill was a wonderfully nice guy whereas SHE was a snot.
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Post by deembastille on Jun 15, 2018 23:54:48 GMT
BATouttaheck I am very well aware. In another thread, she mentions quitting 4 shrinks in 20 years. I would have liked to have been a little fly on those walls ! I never quit those so-called "shrinks"; THEY quit ME! As I said, they were more concerned about their careers than about their patients! And if you were a fly on the wall, I would have taken great pleasure in swatting you! sns... what is the point of putting these people on ignore if you are going to continue to talk to them via someone else? how is that letting go? and i highly doubt ALL FOUR of them would drop you to further their careers. i do know of drs/therapists who drop patients who are just not involved in their own therapy [or so the therapists say]. i have dropped drs who were too busy furthering their careers [one endocrinologist would constantly cancel appointments and the next appointment would be three months later!] but in terms of therapists... they would only terminate the therapy if the effort was only one sided. so if all four of these people terminated their work with you, then perhaps you were not putting the effort into the therapy. it's okay to not want to get well, but don't waste anyone else's time.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 17, 2018 0:41:08 GMT
I never quit those so-called "shrinks"; THEY quit ME! As I said, they were more concerned about their careers than about their patients! And if you were a fly on the wall, I would have taken great pleasure in swatting you! sns... what is the point of putting these people on ignore if you are going to continue to talk to them via someone else? how is that letting go? and i highly doubt ALL FOUR of them would drop you to further their careers. i do know of drs/therapists who drop patients who are just not involved in their own therapy [or so the therapists say]. i have dropped drs who were too busy furthering their careers [one endocrinologist would constantly cancel appointments and the next appointment would be three months later!] but in terms of therapists... they would only terminate the therapy if the effort was only one sided. so if all four of these people terminated their work with you, then perhaps you were not putting the effort into the therapy. it's okay to not want to get well, but don't waste anyone else's time. I realize that you don't believe me, deem, but I assure you that it's true. They were much younger than I, and they didn't want to stay too long in the individual institutions where I sought their treatment. In other words, they were no help at all! I'm better off talking with my friends, who have all received therapy and take medication. And don't laugh; mental illness is around among many people. Thank God it isn't stigmatized any more, although you seem to think it should be! BTW, I agree with your assessment of GREEN ACRES. I hate that show; in fact, I hate all those Paul Henning "rural" sitcoms. I was mighty glad when CBS cancelled them in 1970.
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