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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 5, 2017 9:15:00 GMT

Blade Runner 2049 (2017, Denis Villeneuve)
Director Denis Villeneuve (Prisoners) was quoted as saying that he would not be able to make this film as good as the original Blade Runner (1982), and he was correct. This film takes place 30 years after the first one that was set in 2019 and follows Ryan Gosling (Drive) playing a young blade runner who discover a long-buried secret that leads him to track down a former blade runner Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford), who's been missing for thirty years. It may be unfair to compare this belated sequel to the classic original but seeings as it is a sequel I cannot help but do so. The film in it's own right is well made and a step above most things that are going through your Cineplex these days but in comparison to the original it falls quite short in almost every way. Simply where the film does look pretty good, it does not look anywhere near as good as the original, the same can be said for all the design work and costuming which just does not have the care and inspiration of the former. The Music is good but mostly when its touting parts of the original score. The acting is good enough but not as good as the original and certainly the characters are not as good. The film also tries to emulate the slower pace of the first film but ends up being even slower and is so bloated at almost 3 hours which could've easily been 2 hours and been a better film for it with none of the themes or main story beats left out. It is more of a detective story than an action film just like the first was but the detective elements are not as strong or interesting this time around. Blade Runner 2049 does try to go in some new territory in the Blade Runner world but they are all the most obvious boring places to go that have been done before in other films and television (Battlestar Galactica). There are some subplots that have shades of Spike Jonze Her (2013) and there are some other scenes that are an attempt to set up further films in the franchise. It may sound like I am being quite hard on the film but there are things to enjoy, the visuals while a little too dark and lacking the wow factor of the original cinematography from Jordan Cronenweth are still miles above most films from our age. The sound design is huge and really second to none which makes it the one area that is better than the original film. The special effects are good although they do go Rogue One with bringing back one character digitally which whilst it is probably the best it has been done to date it still suffers from uncanny valley. In the end I would say it is a solid hard scifi which suffers in comparison to its roots which its best characters are under-used and is bloated but without any iconic scenes. Remember the scene from the original with the replicant stripper being shot in the back as she smashes through glass walls in slow motion, the scene with Rutger Hauer in the elevator lit up after killing Tyrell or his final epic monologue. The new film has none of the artistry that elevates a film to masterpiece. In short, it could have been a lot worse and it is no disgrace to what now has become a franchise I guess but its far from the suspicious rave reviews that have flooded the market days before release. 7/10
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 5, 2017 10:17:02 GMT
That 7 might be a little generous even..
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Post by politicidal on Oct 5, 2017 13:04:32 GMT
I'll be seeing both this and The Mountain Between Us. I think I'll enjoy this more even compared to the original; I thought it was fine but can't say I loved it.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 5, 2017 18:06:19 GMT
I'll be seeing both this and The Mountain Between Us. I think I'll enjoy this more even compared to the original; I thought it was fine but can't say I loved it. Oh they had the trailer for mountain at br2049
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 6, 2017 5:34:47 GMT
Anyone here seeing this opening weekend?
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Post by jcush on Oct 6, 2017 5:46:33 GMT
I saw it a couple hours ago. It's good, but I was a bit disappointed. 7.5/10
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Post by hi224 on Oct 6, 2017 5:53:46 GMT
Absolutely loved it, very emotionally resounding with a very somber, melancholic undertone as well. Gosling and Ford both delivered, although I wish someone else had played Leto's role, someone a fair amount older perhaps. 9/10 for now.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 6, 2017 6:29:15 GMT
Absolutely loved it, very emotionally resounding with a very somber, melancholic undertone as well. Gosling and Ford both delivered, although I wish someone else had played Leto's role, someone a fair amount older perhaps. 9/10 for now. I thought Gosling and ford were good enough and so was pretty much everyone . Letos performance was fine for me ... I just thought his characters dialogue was written like a first year film student trying too hard to be deep
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Post by hi224 on Oct 6, 2017 6:44:36 GMT
Absolutely loved it, very emotionally resounding with a very somber, melancholic undertone as well. Gosling and Ford both delivered, although I wish someone else had played Leto's role, someone a fair amount older perhaps. 9/10 for now. I thought Gosling and ford were good enough and so was pretty much everyone . Letos performance was fine for me ... I just thought his characters dialogue was written like a first year film student trying too hard to be deepI sort of agree with this part especially as no other character talked liked that within the film, its like he stepped out of another universe into this movie.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 6, 2017 20:06:47 GMT
I thought Gosling and ford were good enough and so was pretty much everyone . Letos performance was fine for me ... I just thought his characters dialogue was written like a first year film student trying too hard to be deepI sort of agree with this part especially as no other character talked liked that within the film, its like he stepped out of another universe into this movie. David Bowie was who they wanted but he died... they should've stuck with someone around that age
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 6, 2017 20:35:23 GMT
Absolutely loved it, very emotionally resounding with a very somber, melancholic undertone as well. Gosling and Ford both delivered, although I wish someone else had played Leto's role, someone a fair amount older perhaps. 9/10 for now. I agree with all of this^^^
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 6, 2017 20:39:28 GMT
I thought Gosling and ford were good enough and so was pretty much everyone . Letos performance was fine for me ... I just thought his characters dialogue was written like a first year film student trying too hard to be deepI sort of agree with this part especially as no other character talked liked that within the film, its like he stepped out of another universe into this movie.That is actually the reason his dialogue does work for me. It's because that feels like the movie is saying his character is pretentious, for lack of a better word.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 6, 2017 20:40:53 GMT
I sort of agree with this part especially as no other character talked liked that within the film, its like he stepped out of another universe into this movie.That is actually the reason his dialogue does work for me. It's because that feels like it is saying his character is pretentious, for lack of a better word. Also the more I ponder K's story arc, the more I feel his arc mirrored Batty's actually.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 6, 2017 20:43:13 GMT
That is actually the reason his dialogue does work for me. It's because that feels like it is saying his character is pretentious, for lack of a better word. Also the more I ponder K's story arc, the more I feel his arc mirrored Batty's actually. I was talking about Leto's character. I agree about K's story arch. He is like Batty but as the protagonist.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 6, 2017 20:45:40 GMT
Also the more I ponder K's story arc, the more I feel his arc mirrored Batty's actually. I was talking about Leto's character. I agree about K's story arch. He is like Batty but as the protagonist. I know I was just changing subject my apologies as well. Yeah actually seems like every character in the movie on some level was a mirror of a character from the first perhaps.
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 6, 2017 20:47:39 GMT
That is actually the reason his dialogue does work for me. It's because that feels like it is saying his character is pretentious, for lack of a better word. Also the more I ponder K's story arc, the more I feel his arc mirrored Batty's actually. Roger Deakins outdid himself. The cinematography is masterful.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Oct 6, 2017 21:25:07 GMT
Also the more I ponder K's story arc, the more I feel his arc mirrored Batty's actually. Roger Deakins outdid himself. The cinematography is masterful. I thought it was disappointing
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 6, 2017 22:40:01 GMT
Roger Deakins outdid himself. The cinematography is masterful. I thought it was disappointing Too bad for you I guess 
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Post by Sir_Farty_Fartsalot on Oct 6, 2017 23:28:13 GMT
Is it better than "Inception"?
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Oct 7, 2017 0:02:47 GMT
This film takes place 30 years after the first one that was set in 2019 and follows Ryan Gosling (Drive) playing a young blade runner who discovers of a long-buried secret that leads him to track down a former blade runner Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford), who's been missing for thirty years.
is that what they are calling all the replicant hunters now? i'm fairly certain it was intended as a singular monniker for the Deckard character.
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