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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 0:06:34 GMT
Why is it part of the settings in the first place? I suppose that when a large company like ProBoards orders a forum software from an IT engineer, the person or team writing the code will think of a large variety of potential clients, not just us chickens here. So, think for example of a school classroom that uses ProBoards to make a forum for a school project so that they can discuss it and communicate among themselves, in an environment where people will want to have everybody else's email address displayed easily. Well, that group has this option, built-in by the coder who made the software. Or, say, a motorbike gang where everybody is a buddy. And so on and so forth. They won't necessarily cater exclusive to online anonymous communities like IMDb was, and like IMDBv2 is. Then, they built in four different levels of privacy and allow users to pick one. What's fundamentally wrong with that???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 0:12:03 GMT
Why are you being so defensive and then put a phony smiley face at the end? That is just being passive aggressive. I haven't argued any point about admin and staff not being able to see email addresses. I just put forward a case about the features that have been made available for users to use, regarding their email addresses. Nice going!  Admin is indicating that these features and defaults come from ProBoards. Look at who he is quoting. We don't have our own server with proprietary software where we can set everything to our liking. We need to take the set-up offered by ProBoards. Then Admin tries to warn users and help them with finding the instructions to change privacy settings, and collects hostility.  Very nice explanation. Thanks so much. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 0:33:16 GMT
Admin is indicating that these features and defaults come from ProBoards. Look at who he is quoting. We don't have our own server with proprietary software where we can set everything to our liking. We need to take the set-up offered by ProBoards. Then Admin tries to warn users and help them with finding the instructions to change privacy settings, and collects hostility. I understand the point being made, it was just the manner and choice of point, which I have just addressed in another post to admin. Users will just have to be more aware of the settings they choose. For me it was self-explanatory, for others it may have caused some confusion, hence the point of this thread. Cheers big ears.  That is root beer, because I don't drink alcohol. Cheers to you too. Again, a clarification, not necessarily directed to you, but to all present and future participants of this thread: Admin has indicated in another post up there in this thread, with a link to the ProBoards support forum, that he does not have the power to change the default. The ProBoards support team stated in that forum that only users can make the change and pick what is most convenient for them. So, our default (meaning, what the software automatically defaults to when one signs up for the forum - "share with friends and staff") is set in stone (initially it will always default to that and Admin can't change it), but users can pick three other options, one of them being more private than the default ("share with staff only"). We discussed this issue among the staff before this thread was made. Admin said he'd look into whether or not he could change the default. The answer is, he can't. So he warned members to go and adjust the privacy setting and get away from the default if they so desire. It's actually quite simple, I don't much understand why this thread has generated this much controversy. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2017 0:51:26 GMT
So he warned members to go and adjust the privacy setting and get away from the default if they so desire. I would say it was more friendly advice than a warning, but the message should be clear by now: Nobody's email addresses are being automatically shared with the general public. If any given member's email address is visible to everyone, rest assured it's because that member chose to have it that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 0:54:33 GMT
So he warned members to go and adjust the privacy setting and get away from the default if they so desire. I would say it was more friendly advice than a warning, but the message should be clear by now: Nobody's email addresses are being automatically shared with the general public. If any given member's email address is visible to everyone, rest assured it's because that member chose to have it that way. I meant a well-intentioned, friendly warning. Like when you care about someone and warn the person of a danger so that the person is safe. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2017 0:57:37 GMT
I meant a well-intentioned, friendly warning. Like when you care about someone and warn the person of a danger so that the person is safe. WARNING! Your email address will not be publicly shared unless you want it to be! Something ain't right there.  |
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Post by Koolguy456789 on Mar 4, 2017 1:07:46 GMT
Don't worry about these slimeballs, Admin. If they don't use a throwaway E-Mail they are asking for trouble. You are doing a heck of a job here
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 1:16:14 GMT
I meant a well-intentioned, friendly warning. Like when you care about someone and warn the person of a danger so that the person is safe. WARNING! Your email address will not be publicly shared unless you want it to be! Something ain't right there. I mean, the default setting is such that if a person accepts someone as "friend" the person's email by default will be seen by the "friend." Maybe some members with "friends" won't want that much closeness at first when they accept a "friend," and will rather want to change the settings to an even higher level of privacy - from "staff and friends" to "staff only." We are friendly warning them of such. At least I am.  But yes, in a previous post of mine up there in this thread I also said that it is important to dispel the rumor that emails here are visible. They only get visible beyond the staff, if a person *actively* decides to accept a friendship offer (and then they are visible just to that friend, not to the community at large), and even that can be prevented by changing the privacy setting. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2017 1:24:30 GMT
I know what you meant, @johnthehumble. Just giving you a hard time at the cost of some playful semantics.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 5:36:34 GMT
Come on, there are a lot more important issues than private emails to worry about. As an IT guy I can assure you, people's personal info being visible to everyone is one of the important issues. I can see why some would be upset if they were (wrongly) told it was the case. One, it could lead to someone knowing another's real name, which they might not appreciate, and two, trolls or someone who simply takes a dislike to another person's post(s) could take their E-Mail and do all sorts of "fun" things with it, like post it on message boards for it to be hit with tons of spam, sign it up to garbage sites etc. Last time I heard there were actually attack sites you could put such info into that would do that work for you. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2017 10:23:15 GMT
Perhaps it's like Facebook in that ProBoards may have started out with just two options then these people wanted this and those people wanted that and next thing you know, it's a convoluted mess. Haha. Whatever the case, is it not better to have too many options than not enough?
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Post by aboyes1989 on Mar 4, 2017 10:55:34 GMT
Come on, there are a lot more important issues than private emails to worry about. As an IT guy I can assure you, people's personal info being visible to everyone is one of the important issues. I can see why some would be upset if they were (wrongly) told it was the case. One, it could lead to someone knowing another's real name, which they might not appreciate, and two, trolls or someone who simply takes a dislike to another person's post(s) could take their E-Mail and do all sorts of "fun" things with it, like post it on message boards for it to be hit with tons of spam, sign it up to garbage sites etc. Last time I heard there were actually attack sites you could put such info into that would do that work for you. Absolutely. One hundred percent. I'm with you on that one. Sorry, long day. Bit scattered. Look, uh, I just.. I just wanna help. |
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 4, 2017 13:17:25 GMT
Don't worry about these slimeballs, Admin. If they don't use a throwaway E-Mail they are asking for trouble. You are doing a heck of a job here
Although I understand that not everyone is tech savvy, the caveat somehow applies: Buyer beware. The mods gave good explanations, and it's really ultimately up to the user to understand how things work because the user made the decision to join up. There is a help function available, so it should be used.
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Post by Koolguy456789 on Mar 4, 2017 13:24:12 GMT
Don't worry about these slimeballs, Admin. If they don't use a throwaway E-Mail they are asking for trouble. You are doing a heck of a job here
Although I understand that not everyone is tech savvy, the caveat somehow applies: Buyer beware. The mods gave good explanations, and it's really ultimately up to the user to understand how things work because the user made the decision to join up. There is a help function available, so it should be used.
Which is why I don't have a Facebook. Before you know it everything is linked to it whether you are even aware or not |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 18:09:00 GMT
Don't worry about these slimeballs, Admin. If they don't use a throwaway E-Mail they are asking for trouble. You are doing a heck of a job here
Never ceases to amaze me how many people don't pay any attention to the privacy settings on FB, then wonder how people are 'omg seeing my stuff'. Also, I wish FB would finally get over their stupidity and allow profile and cover photos to be set to private. I'm long sick of seeing stuff come across my timeline of people saying they were hacked when they weren't just because their account got cloned. No, you weren't hacked. Anyone can be "John Smith" and use John Smith's public photos. And if John Smith's friends list is set to public (stupid move), then that's all she wrote. |
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Post by deembastille on Dec 16, 2017 20:52:26 GMT
Why would anybody use their real email? the same stupid people who put their full name and actual picture on sites like youtube/whatever and then post racist crap. |
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