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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 12, 2017 18:03:26 GMT
There are a lot of Spielberg movies that still get a lot of love from audiences But when push comes to shove and people ask what are his best films overall, usually Duel and Jaws rise to the front more than any others. ET for example was a HUGE film when it came out-it was labelled his best career-defining film, no one talks about it anymore.
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Post by salomonj on Oct 12, 2017 18:03:44 GMT
David Fincher has consistently been releasing amazing films imo.
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Post by miike80 on Oct 12, 2017 18:08:19 GMT
There are a lot of Spielberg movies that still get a lot of love from audiences But when push comes to shove and people ask what are his best films overall, usually Duel and Jaws rise to the front more than any others. ET for example was a HUGE film when it came out-it was labelled his best career-defining film, no one talks about it anymore. Imo more people talk about ET and Close Encounters not to mention Indy than DUEL(which i love)
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Post by kevin on Oct 12, 2017 18:17:01 GMT
But when push comes to shove and people ask what are his best films overall, usually Duel and Jaws rise to the front more than any others. ET for example was a HUGE film when it came out-it was labelled his best career-defining film, no one talks about it anymore. Imo more people talk about ET and Close Encounters not to mention Indy than DUEL(which i love) It always thought most people considered Schindler's list to be one of his best movies since it's frequently listed on best of all-time lists and that movie didn't come out until the 90s. Spielberg may not have made absolute classics the last years, but I always felt like he's one of the only directors who has consistently made great movies.
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Post by bravomailer on Oct 12, 2017 18:18:48 GMT
Michael Cimino
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 12, 2017 18:20:26 GMT
Imo more people talk about ET and Close Encounters not to mention Indy than DUEL(which i love) Well Duel is technically a tv movie so it wouldn't make all movie lists anyway. I never hear it come up in conversations on movie boards. The Thing yes. Lots of appreciation for the Thing compared to 1982. ET has completely fallen off the radar. It's re-release bombed. Indiana Jones is in partnership with Lucas so I don't see it as a Spielberg film series by itself.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 12, 2017 18:50:52 GMT
By popular do you mean popcorn flicks as opposed to Schindler's List or Saving Private Ryan? Jurassic Park was (and remains) incredibly popular and that came out in 1993. I mean films that have remained popular critically and also by audiences. I dont think Schindler's List or SPR have remained popular with audiences. Jurassic Park was praised for its FX not so much for Spielberg's direction. Jaws and Duel still get good ratings from critics and audiences. SPR is constantly on television, it's still a popular film. JP is a great movie from top to bottom, it's more than special effects. It wouldn't be popular 25 years later if it were just about the fx that you see in every film now. Can't remember the last time I heard anyone mention Duel.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 12, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
SPR is constantly on television, it's still a popular film. JP is a great movie from top to bottom, it's more than special effects. It wouldn't be popular 25 years later if it were just about the fx that you see in every film now. Can't remember the last time I heard anyone mention Duel. SPR is promoted--that is different from the audience talking about it. Even when JP came out, I remember Gene Siskel saying it was being compared to Jaws but the characters in Jaws were much better. One could pick apart the dialogue and characterization in JP. Take away the FX and there is not much to recommend. A guy babysitting bratty kids, people discussing computer code or eating ice cream. If you go to committed movie boards-movie collector sites--you are more likely to see people mention DUEL or JAWS as his best work.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 12, 2017 19:26:58 GMT
SPR is constantly on television, it's still a popular film. JP is a great movie from top to bottom, it's more than special effects. It wouldn't be popular 25 years later if it were just about the fx that you see in every film now. Can't remember the last time I heard anyone mention Duel. SPR is promoted--that is different from the audience talking about it. Even when JP came out, I remember Gene Siskel saying it was being compared to Jaws but the characters in Jaws were much better. One could pick apart the dialogue and characterization in JP. Take away the FX and there is not much to recommend. A guy babysitting bratty kids, people discussing computer code or eating ice cream. If you go to committed movie boards-movie collector sites--you are more likely to see people mention DUEL or JAWS as his best work. They wouldn't put SPR on television constantly if nobody was watching it for the 50th time. That's not how tv works. I didn't realize they 'promoted' 20 year old movies. Sure, that sums it up. Seriously, we can't have this discussion if you're going to generalize to the Nth degree to try to prove your opinion is more valid than mine. Also, you said 'popular films' in your initial post. Now your imagined audience has shrunk to 'movie collector sites.' Either way you're wrong. Have anyone (generic moviegoer, critic, hardcore Spielberg fan) name their top ten films directed by Spielberg and see how many don't list Jurassic Park, SPR and Schindler's List in there somewhere.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 12, 2017 19:32:49 GMT
They wouldn't put SPR on television constantly if nobody was watching it for the 50th time. That's not how tv works. I didn't realize they 'promoted' 20 year old movies. Oh yes they would. Gone are the days when a movie was chosen for tv because of viewership. They can run it as much as they want to. They dont need the money. And yes Jurassic Park is a simplistic sitcom humor kind of story. They really missed the mark. Spielberg hated stop motion so the film was designed around lifescale puppets. That is why there are so many scenes with no dinosaurs at all. The only reason the CGI happened was because James Cameron had developed ILM's CG division and they did tests which Spielberg liked.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Oct 12, 2017 19:57:20 GMT
The two of those movies aren't exactly meant for, or lend themselves to, repeat viewings. However, they're still very highly regarded by most discerning film fans.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 12, 2017 21:11:44 GMT
Might get some flack for this but also Neil Blomkamp. Why would you get flack? He seems like a perfect example.
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