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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 12, 2017 9:44:58 GMT
Hope CBI and police understands that it follows Mughal era investigative methods.
My only fear is that CBI is going to use worse torture techniques to prove their earlier point. The fight is not yet over for their parents. Wish them all the best.
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Post by themanwithnoshame on Oct 13, 2017 9:47:02 GMT
Congrats. To them and you.
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Post by darkpoofly on Oct 13, 2017 20:49:28 GMT
Have you read Avirook Sen's Aarushi? I haven't, but I want to know more about that judge Shyam Lal, and that forensic investigator from Gandhinagar, Dahiya.
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 13, 2017 22:55:02 GMT
Have you read Avirook Sen's Aarushi? I haven't, but I want to know more about that judge Shyam Lal, and that forensic investigator from Gandhinagar, Dahiya. Every bit of Aarushi's case exposes the corruption and ruthlessness of non-elected people in public services and their potential to fuck us.
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Post by darkpoofly on Oct 13, 2017 22:59:58 GMT
Have you read Avirook Sen's Aarushi? I haven't, but I want to know more about that judge Shyam Lal, and that forensic investigator from Gandhinagar, Dahiya. Every bit of Aarushi's case exposes the corruption and ruthlessness of non-elected people in public services and their potential to fuck us. Do you know that judge Shyam Lal was busy typing the judgement, with the help of his son because of Judge's poor English, a month before the last arguments were heard in the court?
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Post by themanwithnoshame on Oct 15, 2017 1:11:16 GMT
Have you read Avirook Sen's Aarushi? I haven't, but I want to know more about that judge Shyam Lal, and that forensic investigator from Gandhinagar, Dahiya. Every bit of Aarushi's case exposes the corruption and ruthlessness of non-elected people in public services and their potential to fuck us. Well, not everyone is happy about the outcome. And rightly so.
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Post by nicermog on Oct 15, 2017 2:40:00 GMT
lmao @ 18:30 of that video
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Oct 15, 2017 6:37:24 GMT
i read a lot of AVIROOK SEN's book. it was very scary. reminded me of the naipaul quote "india - where cruelty has no meaning and is a way of life itself".
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Post by drspaceman on Oct 16, 2017 0:47:24 GMT
I'm reading the book, Aarushi. I'll post my observations as I read it. Kal_1993Soon after the parents discover the body, the maid enters the house. Why does the mother ask the maid to go into the bedroom and look at the body? Wouldn't the parents want to save their daughter the humiliation even after her death? Why let a maid, who is usually a conduit for gossip in Indian neighbourhoods, into the bedroom to look at the desecrated body of their daughter? Unlike you, I won't say this is evidence of their guilt. I just think it's interesting that the mother would want a stranger to see her daughter with her head slip open and her throat cut, and possibly defiled in other ways that the author left out for the sake of decency.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Oct 16, 2017 2:14:30 GMT
I'm reading the book, Aarushi. I'll post my observations as I read it. Kal_1993 Soon after the parents discover the body, the maid enters the house. Why does the mother ask the maid to go into the bedroom and look at the body? Wouldn't the parents want to save their daughter the humiliation even after her death? Why let a maid, who is usually a conduit for gossip in Indian neighbourhoods, into the bedroom to look at the desecrated body of their daughter? Unlike you, I won't say this is evidence of their guilt. I just think it's interesting that the mother would want a stranger to see her daughter with her head slip open and her throat cut, and possibly defiled in other ways that the author left out for the sake of decency. avirook sen fails to explain why aarushis room was locked from outside with a key. of course, it could be that the talwars were typically paranoid indian parents who were uncomfortable with a servant living with them. anyway, here is a review i wrote on goodreads:
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Post by drspaceman on Oct 16, 2017 3:47:27 GMT
I'm reading the book, Aarushi. I'll post my observations as I read it. Kal_1993 Soon after the parents discover the body, the maid enters the house. Why does the mother ask the maid to go into the bedroom and look at the body? Wouldn't the parents want to save their daughter the humiliation even after her death? Why let a maid, who is usually a conduit for gossip in Indian neighbourhoods, into the bedroom to look at the desecrated body of their daughter? Unlike you, I won't say this is evidence of their guilt. I just think it's interesting that the mother would want a stranger to see her daughter with her head slip open and her throat cut, and possibly defiled in other ways that the author left out for the sake of decency. avirook sen fails to explain why aarushis room was locked from outside with a key. of course, it could be that the talwars were typically paranoid indian parents who were uncomfortable with a servant living with them. anyway, here is a review i wrote on goodreads: Agreed. It's badly written. Might as well read the wikipedia entry.
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 16, 2017 9:18:59 GMT
In all honesty I have not read any crime book. But can you please tell me is there any way this book could not be seen as defense of Talwars? Obviously nobody can invent things that are non-existent to bring "balance" that you desperately ask for.
Time you understand that the actual truth is not balanced. Rather in support of one party.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Oct 16, 2017 9:27:31 GMT
In all honesty I have not read any crime book. But can you please tell me is there any way this book could not be seen as defense of Talwars? Obviously nobody can invent things that are non-existent to bring "balance" that you desperately ask for. Time you understand that the actual truth is not balanced. Rather in support of one party. fair enough man. even i think the talwars could be innocent.
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 16, 2017 9:56:28 GMT
In all honesty I have not read any crime book. But can you please tell me is there any way this book could not be seen as defense of Talwars? Obviously nobody can invent things that are non-existent to bring "balance" that you desperately ask for. Time you understand that the actual truth is not balanced. Rather in support of one party. fair enough man. even i think the talwars could be innocent. At this point of time no one could be labelled guilty. Because the police have irreversibly botched up the case in the first few hours. There is no way fingers could be pointed at anyone and can be proven before the court of law. The best outcome I expect from this case is that no one's arrested on the filmsy evidence available. This case should call for reforms in Aarushi's name. That would be real justice.
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 16, 2017 10:02:14 GMT
Wonderfully written. Totally agree.
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Post by themanwithnoshame on Oct 16, 2017 10:34:43 GMT
How are the Talwars absolutely innocent beyond an iota of doubt when they are getting the benefit of doubt?
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Post by nicermog on Oct 16, 2017 18:56:54 GMT
Arknob is screaming at you guys to shut up.
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 17, 2017 15:23:58 GMT
How are the Talwars absolutely innocent beyond an iota of doubt when they are getting the benefit of doubt? This is the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. You can't be half-convict just like you can't be half-virgin. Either one is guilty or convicted I have read the entire high court judgement. High court clearly said it is NOT the parents. As of now CBI officers could be considered criminals.
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Post by drspaceman on Oct 17, 2017 15:49:32 GMT
How are the Talwars absolutely innocent beyond an iota of doubt when they are getting the benefit of doubt? This is the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. You can't be half-convict just like you can't be half-virgin. Either one is guilty or convicted I have read the entire high court judgement. High court clearly said it is NOT the parents. As of now CBI officers could be considered criminals. He's talking about your proclamations of their innocence. How can you say they are totally innocent?
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Post by Kal_1993 on Oct 17, 2017 16:44:41 GMT
This is the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. You can't be half-convict just like you can't be half-virgin. Either one is guilty or convicted I have read the entire high court judgement. High court clearly said it is NOT the parents. As of now CBI officers could be considered criminals. He's talking about your proclamations of their innocence. How can you say they are totally innocent? Evidence points the other way. And more obvious is the fact that amount of evidence cooked up by CBI that doesn't hold any water. 1. Surgical precision - a laugh worthy allegation that came from the 2nd CBI team. Nothing is surgically precise about either of the wounds'. Read the autopsy report. It's amazing how various ignorants are asserting this fact. 2. Golf Club - if you close your eyes and imagine for a moment, it's almost comical. You mean to say Aarushi and Hemraj were found having sex and this guy in a fit of rage went on to bring scalpel(why would he keep it at home?) and a golf club? Wouldn't he hit them with something around or punch the guy? If scalpel and golf club are used it should be called a planned murder , which I'm sure Talwars could plan better. Their injuries are consistent only with that of an unplanned impulsive murder. 3. Change of autopsy report - how can NAD become "prominent dilatation of vagina" after a year? This should scare the living crap out of us. Mind you, this isn't change of opinion, a change of fact. Anybody could be held guilty with tampering of autopsy reports and finger prints. Court should ask for photographs as proofs as to why the facts been changed and have an independent inquiry. All these were questioned by the high court. There are many more like "typographical error". I used to always want to remain an Indian citizen and now I have my doubts.
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