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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 13, 2017 16:39:04 GMT
I shouldn't have to explain this, but apparently I do. Boomer is paid very well to analyze and commentate on sports. That is his job. Every time he works, it involves sports. He has to stay up on the sport's world and has more time for it than I could ever have because that is a large part of his professional life. I am a doctor. My long days are not spent talking about sports. When I go home to my wife and kids, I have other responsibilities that do not involve sports. It is only after I take care of those things that I can enjoy my sports. This is why I have to limit my sport's consumption. Boomer seriously has the opposite problem. It is not the same AT ALL. Do you understand that Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where that work does NOT involve watching sports? No I do not understand that because he does not. When he talks about sports FOR A JOB, then it INVOLVES SPORTS. Jesus, why is this so hard for you to comprehend? It is pretty easy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 16:41:26 GMT
Yeah, yeah, fake marco26 troll, sure, sure, we believe you [insert sarcasm here] It can be done. Look at Boomer Esiason. He's on the radio five days per week from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. talking about sports. He's constantly flying all over the country covering football for CBS. And he also follows all of the major sports as a fan. He has season tickets to the Rangers. I'm pretty sure he has season tickets to the Mets, too. You know he watches the bulk of most games re his teams, re other New York-area teams, re Monday, Thursday Night Football, and re any important games in general, including college sports, golf, etc., because he's able to talk about them in depth on the radio. He also does a lot of charity work. In addition to all of that he has a family, including a son with cystic fibrosis--which got him more involved with charity work, he has a lot of friends, and he does other stuff socially, too. But that's a professional who does that for a living. Most professionals spend several hours doing their things and also engage in charity, family, etc. I'm talking about someone who does something else, and also finds the time to follow thoroughly ALL sports. The day has only 24hrs and people need to be asleep for part of these. Unless fake marco26 is a professional in the Sports world in real life, what I said still applies.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 16:42:46 GMT
Do you understand that Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where that work does NOT involve watching sports? No I do not understand that because he does not. When he talks about sports FOR A JOB, then it INVOLVES SPORTS. Jesus, why is this so hard for you to comprehend? It is pretty easy. For a doctor, you don't read very well. I said "involve watching sports." Not simply "involves sports." When Boomer is on the radio from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m., for example, he's not watching sports--he's not watching games at that time, right?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 16:43:56 GMT
It can be done. Look at Boomer Esiason. He's on the radio five days per week from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. talking about sports. He's constantly flying all over the country covering football for CBS. And he also follows all of the major sports as a fan. He has season tickets to the Rangers. I'm pretty sure he has season tickets to the Mets, too. You know he watches the bulk of most games re his teams, re other New York-area teams, re Monday, Thursday Night Football, and re any important games in general, including college sports, golf, etc., because he's able to talk about them in depth on the radio. He also does a lot of charity work. In addition to all of that he has a family, including a son with cystic fibrosis--which got him more involved with charity work, he has a lot of friends, and he does other stuff socially, too. But that's a professional who does that for a living. Most professionals spend several hours doing their things and also engage in charity, family, etc. I'm talking about someone who does something else, and also finds the time to follow thoroughly ALL sports. The day has only 24hrs and people need to be asleep for part of these. Unless fake marco26 is a professional in the Sports world in real life, what I said still applies. As I'm explaining to the "doctor," Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where that work does not involve watching sports. He has to watch games on other time. That's his OWN time, where he's not being paid to watch/go to Rangers games, Mets games, etc.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 13, 2017 16:45:11 GMT
Wow, he's got you on that genius point, DSD.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 16:47:24 GMT
Wow, he's got you on that genius point, DSD. Haha, I see I got under someone's skin.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 13, 2017 16:51:13 GMT
Here and at IMDb the same people talk about the same major sports: baseball, football (both kinds), or basketball. These people do not go beyond those major sports. Yeah, they might mention golf or hockey, but most here (and in the world) just stick to the three or four major sports. marco26, on the other hand LOVES all sports. I love the major sports AND tennis, boxing, auto racing, figure skating, gymnastics...I am a sports fan. My question: why do you just stick with the big sports? I don't want to be rude to any members here, but I will signal out one member. That klawrencio fag...for him it is just baseball. He has season tickets, he watches all baseball games, he goes to Cooperstown once a week, he plays Stratomatic every Saturday night with his life partners.. He never ventures into sports outside of baseball. Why? Why is he like that and why are you the same? I'm a fan of many sports and comment accordingly. I'll even comment on sports I'm not particularly fond of, though I try not to be overly critical of anything just because I'm not into it.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Oct 13, 2017 17:03:29 GMT
So, how do you pronounce TYT Sports? slowly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:06:39 GMT
But that's a professional who does that for a living. Most professionals spend several hours doing their things and also engage in charity, family, etc. I'm talking about someone who does something else, and also finds the time to follow thoroughly ALL sports. The day has only 24hrs and people need to be asleep for part of these. Unless fake marco26 is a professional in the Sports world in real life, what I said still applies. As I'm explaining to the "doctor," Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where that work does not involve watching sports. He has to watch games on other time. That's his OWN time, where he's not being paid to watch/go to Rangers games, Mets games, etc. It's a bit of nuance but so be it. Maybe he is one of the exceptions that confirm the rule. I'd say, though, that generally speaking, people who work elsewhere/other fields, don't typically follow ALL sports very closely. Maybe people's priorities and use of their leisure time differs (I mean, not just maybe; certainly it differs), but generally speaking, people who are otherwise very busy with other pursuits only manage to follow *closely* two or three major sports that interest them, and they pay some cursory attention to others. That's my case, at least. But yes, you are right that it is not impossible; certain people are natural multi-taskers. I do remind you that sometimes when people are too immersed into something, they may appear to be very proficient and happy and all, but at a future point this activity might take a toll and other parts of that person's life might suffer. Imagine for example, God forbid (I have nothing against the guy and don't wish him ill; it's just an example), that at some point Mr. Boomer's wife divorces him and says "well, he wasn't paying any attention to me; it was all the damn sports all the time! I had to get a lover!"
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 13, 2017 17:09:35 GMT
Wow, he's got you on that genius point, DSD. Haha, I see I got under someone's skin. No. He just sees what I see. There is NO WAY I have more time than Boomer to watch sports. He GETS PAID to watch and discuss sports. That is his life. It is amazing that I always seem to get in arguments on this site about things that should be common sense.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 13, 2017 17:10:17 GMT
So, how do you pronounce TYT Sports? slowly. All I know is I would expect a completely different kind of video with that name.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 17:19:19 GMT
As I'm explaining to the "doctor," Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where that work does not involve watching sports. He has to watch games on other time. That's his OWN time, where he's not being paid to watch/go to Rangers games, Mets games, etc. It's a bit of nuance but so be it. Maybe he is one of the exceptions that confirm the rule. I'd say, though, that generally speaking, people who work elsewhere/other fields, don't typically follow ALL sports very closely. Maybe people's priorities and use of their leisure time differs (I mean, not just maybe; certainly it differs), but generally speaking, people who are otherwise very busy with other pursuits only manage to follow *closely* two or three major sports that interest them, and they pay some cursory attention to others. That's my case, at least. But yes, you are right that it is not impossible; certain people are natural multi-taskers. I do remind you that sometimes when people are too immersed into something, they may appear to be very proficient and happy and all, but at a future point this activity might take a toll and other parts of that person's life might suffer. Imagine for example, God forbid (I have nothing against the guy and don't wish him ill; it's just an example), that at some point Mr. Boomer's wife divorces him and says "well, he wasn't paying any attention to me; it was all the damn sports all the time! I had to get a lover!" Agree with all of that pretty much. And I wasn't bringing it up to be judgmental about anyone (just in case they were thinking that). I was just bringing up an example of someone who has a very busy, full life, yet still watches an insane amount of sports. I wanted to use someone who was a public figure for an example, because then it's not a matter of believing something a private person says about themselves on a message board. For one with Boomer, I don't know how his health holds up given his schedule--because I don't know when he sleeps. He not only routinely watches games to the end and then wakes up to be in downtown Manhattan somewhere between 5:00 and 6:00 a.m., but he'll be covering a football game for CBS in Green Bay, say, the game will go to 11:30 or so (if it's the Monday, Thursday or Sunday night game), and he'll STILL manage to be at the radio station in Manhattan by 6:00 a.m. the next day. He must just sleep on the plane and then go straight to the station, but he must often not get very much sleep. I know that when I've had more difficult schedules, I've gone to just sleeping a couple hours three times per day or so, so maybe that's what he does. You get used to it, but that kind of schedule makes it harder to spend time with family.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 17:25:32 GMT
No he doesn't. The only time he gets paid to watch is when CBS has him cover a game, and then he gets paid to watch snippets of games when he does the "color committee" thing on Sundays. That's only a very small percentage what he does. His radio time, his CBS sports minute time, and all of that other stuff involves him NOT being paid to watch games. He has to watch games on his own time (and after all, games aren't on from 5:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. or noon, which is when he's paid to be at the radio station). You're conflating the fact that he has to watch games to be able to do his job with the idea of him being paid to watch games. Those are two different ideas. Boomer works more than 40 hours per week where he's NOT watching games during that time. He has to watch games at other times. It's just like if you were a doctor. You'd not be paid to read the JAMA, for example. You need to do that on your own time to keep up with the knowledge required to do your work well. And likewise, I'm not paid to practice my instruments. I have to do that on my own time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:32:09 GMT
It's a bit of nuance but so be it. Maybe he is one of the exceptions that confirm the rule. I'd say, though, that generally speaking, people who work elsewhere/other fields, don't typically follow ALL sports very closely. Maybe people's priorities and use of their leisure time differs (I mean, not just maybe; certainly it differs), but generally speaking, people who are otherwise very busy with other pursuits only manage to follow *closely* two or three major sports that interest them, and they pay some cursory attention to others. That's my case, at least. But yes, you are right that it is not impossible; certain people are natural multi-taskers. I do remind you that sometimes when people are too immersed into something, they may appear to be very proficient and happy and all, but at a future point this activity might take a toll and other parts of that person's life might suffer. Imagine for example, God forbid (I have nothing against the guy and don't wish him ill; it's just an example), that at some point Mr. Boomer's wife divorces him and says "well, he wasn't paying any attention to me; it was all the damn sports all the time! I had to get a lover!" Agree with all of that pretty much. And I wasn't bringing it up to be judgmental about anyone (just in case they were thinking that). I was just bringing up an example of someone who has a very busy, full life, yet still watches an insane amount of sports. I wanted to use someone who was a public figure for an example, because then it's not a matter of believing something a private person says about themselves on a message board. For one with Boomer, I don't know how his health holds up given his schedule--because I don't know when he sleeps. He not only routinely watches games to the end and then wakes up to be in downtown Manhattan somewhere between 5:00 and 6:00 a.m., but he'll be covering a football game for CBS in Green Bay, say, the game will go to 11:30 or so (if it's the Monday, Thursday or Sunday night game), and he'll STILL manage to be at the radio station in Manhattan by 6:00 a.m. the next day. He must just sleep on the plane and then go straight to the station, but he must often not get very much sleep. I know that when I've had more difficult schedules, I've gone to just sleeping a couple hours three times per day or so, so maybe that's what he does. You get used to it, but that kind of schedule makes it harder to spend time with family. Sure, you can get used to it, but again, this kind of schedule takes a toll. It's been pretty well demonstrated, for example, that chronic sleep deprivation contributes to a weakened immune system, weight gain, and a decline in certain areas of the cognitive functions. Now, if you have a chronically weakened immune system, you can for example develop a cancer that you'd otherwise not have developed. All things in life are healthier when they are more balanced and not extreme. So in Mr. Boomer's case, I'd slow down a little. I understand why you picked Boomer, but it would be nice if you also acknowledged the point that I'm making here and others also did: that it is not the best of examples because at least in part of that schedule, he is doing it to get paid; it's his profession. Someone else (not a Sports professional) wouldn't be making money while doing some of his sports watching and commentating, so that person would have to spend a sizable number of hours doing something else in order to earn a living, unless the person were independently wealthy and with no real task in life (but even the filthy rich typically preside over their investments, take care of their businesses, etc., although yes, there are some dilettante playboys who will do nothing but engage in leisure and let others administer their fortunes, but then, these types are already exceptions). My take was, like I said, what *generally* happens. Generally, most busy people won't watch ALL sports closely like the OP was proposing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:33:38 GMT
And likewise, I'm not paid to practice my instruments. I have to do that on my own time. So, you are a professional musician? Nice! What instruments do you play?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 17:35:36 GMT
at least in part of that schedule, he is doing it to get paid; it's his profession. Someone else (not a Sports professional) wouldn't be making money while doing some of his sports watching and commentating, so that person would have to spend a sizable number of hours doing something else in order to earn a living, The motivation is different, but the motivation isn't at all the point. The time budgeting is. Boomer is not making money while doing some of his sports watching. He has to budget his sports watching time apart from a 40+ hour work week just like anyone else would.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 17:38:38 GMT
And likewise, I'm not paid to practice my instruments. I have to do that on my own time. So, you are a professional musician? Nice! What instruments do you play? Drums, bass, keyboards mainly. I usually gig and do sessions on drums or bass. Drums were my first instrument. The rest of the time--while writing, arranging, recording demos, doing film scores, etc., I mostly play keyboards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:44:30 GMT
at least in part of that schedule, he is doing it to get paid; it's his profession. Someone else (not a Sports professional) wouldn't be making money while doing some of his sports watching and commentating, so that person would have to spend a sizable number of hours doing something else in order to earn a living, The motivation is different, but the motivation isn't at all the point. The time budgeting is. Boomer is not making money while doing some of his sports watching. He has to budget his sports watching time apart from a 40+ hour work week just like anyone else would. Sure but my point is that *part* of it is done on the clock, while getting paid. I never said all of it. For the common Joe who is not a Sports professional, *all* of it would have to be on his own time (unless the person is fooling the boss which can only take someone so far; at one point the person is caught and fired). You do implicitly acknowledge it when you say "wouldn't be making money while doing some of his sports watching. That implies that he *is* making money while doing some of it too; the other part. To recap - let's say Boomer watches and commentates sports for a living 20 hours per week. The other 20 hours his work involves other activities (such as traveling from place to place, getting ready, etc.). And then he needs to spend additional hours beyond these 40, say, 20 more, watching sports without being paid. That's a total of 60 hours, of which he is watching/commentating sports for 40 hours (20 on the clock, 20 on his own). Now, if a common Joe with a different profession wants to watch and commentate sports for 40 hours per week, that person would need to do all 40 on his own, in addition to his other 40 hours of working time. That's 80. So the common Joe would need a significantly more strained schedule to be able to do as much sports watching/commentating as Boomer. Clear, now, right? This is why the Boomer example is not ideal, although it does show that people *can* do it. I grant you that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:47:11 GMT
So, you are a professional musician? Nice! What instruments do you play? Drums, bass, keyboards mainly. I usually gig and do sessions on drums or bass. Drums were my first instrument. The rest of the time--while writing, arranging, recording demos, doing film scores, etc., I mostly play keyboards. Nice. So I assume it's more jazzy, given the bass? I love the sound of a bass. I usually follow the bass line separately with a sort of internal ear, every time I listen to music that includes it. There is something visceral about the bass. It resonates inside your body, underlining the rhythm. Being a professional in an area that it is also so pleasurable is a privilege. Good for you!
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 18:03:48 GMT
The motivation is different, but the motivation isn't at all the point. The time budgeting is. Boomer is not making money while doing some of his sports watching. He has to budget his sports watching time apart from a 40+ hour work week just like anyone else would. Sure but my point is that *part* of it is done on the clock, while getting paid. I never said all of it. For the common Joe who is not a Sports professional, *all* of it would have to be on his own time (unless the person is fooling the boss which can only take someone so far; at one point the person is caught and fired). You do implicitly acknowledge it when you say "wouldn't be making money while doing some of his sports watching. That implies that he *is* making money while doing some of it too; the other part. To recap - let's say Boomer watches and commentates sports for a living 20 hours per week. The other 20 hours his work involves other activities (such as traveling from place to place, getting ready, etc.). And then he needs to spend additional hours beyond these 40, say, 20 more, watching sports without being paid. That's a total of 60 hours, of which he is watching/commentating sports for 40 hours (20 on the clock, 20 on his own). Now, if a common Joe with a different profession wants to watch and commentate sports for 40 hours per week, that person would need to do all 40 on his own, in addition to his other 40 hours of working time. That's 80. So the common Joe would need a significantly more strained schedule to be able to do as much sports watching/commentating as Boomer. Clear, now, right? This is why the Boomer example is not ideal, although it does show that people *can* do it. I grant you that. When I write multiple times that he works more than 40 hours per week where that work doesn't involve watching sports, what happens? People don't agree or don't believe it, so it's just ignored?
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