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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 13, 2017 16:36:27 GMT
Lets cut it out with making lite of "lives matter" already. It may be a joke to you, but to the people that it does matter it means something very deep and very real. They're literally saying that they want to be acknowledged as people, as human beings that matter. When you say dumb crap like porg lives matter and gungan lives matter you're being incredibly immature, ignorant and dismissive about a very real issue. Cut the crap. You're not as funny as you think.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 16:37:53 GMT
"Acknowledged as people and human beings" by whom?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 13, 2017 16:45:44 GMT
"Acknowledged as people and human beings" by whom? By the assholes who don't.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 16:48:07 GMT
"Acknowledged as people and human beings" by whom? By the assholes who don't. And who would they be?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 13, 2017 16:57:49 GMT
By the assholes who don't. And who would they be? I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think that you might be one of them.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 17:00:41 GMT
I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think that you might be one of them. What would be evidence of me not acknowledging them as people and human beings?
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 13, 2017 17:45:39 GMT
What would be evidence of me not acknowledging them as people and human beings? Your avatar is great.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 13, 2017 18:12:07 GMT
I'm really hoping I'm wrong, but I'm starting to think that you might be one of them. What would be evidence of me not acknowledging them as people and human beings? Well, I'm noticing that you're kinda not agreeing with me, for one thing.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 18:37:05 GMT
What would be evidence of me not acknowledging them as people and human beings? Well, I'm noticing that you're kinda not agreeing with me, for one thing.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 13, 2017 18:43:55 GMT
Well, I'm noticing that you're kinda not agreeing with me, for one thing. So you don't acknowledge them as people and human beings. Got it.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 13, 2017 18:53:14 GMT
Imagine if people routinely went around saying things like, "Attention, please! Attention! I'd just like to acknowledge that Bob is not only a person; he's a human being. Thank you."
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Post by Nightman on Oct 13, 2017 20:15:38 GMT
Although I'm one of the few supporters of BLM on the net, you'll have to pry my #LivesMatter hashtags from my cold droid hands.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 20:21:25 GMT
Lets cut it out with making lite of "lives matter" already. It may be a joke to you, but to the people that it does matter it means something very deep and very real. They're literally saying that they want to be acknowledged as people, as human beings that matter. When you say dumb crap like porg lives matter and gungan lives matter you're being incredibly immature, ignorant and dismissive about a very real issue. Cut the crap. You're not as funny as you think. Sorry, I don't like the "lives matter" idea and I will take every chance I can get to ridicule said idea. If you really care about people who have joined these militant groups - and I'm talking all of them, the blacks in BLM, the Mexican folks who want to speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and the whites joining neo-Nazi cults - your advice to them should be: Shut it. Just shut your mouth. Shut...shut...shhhh...shut it. Because all these groups do is help solidify division. They do not help. They never help. When you look at the way MLK conducted himself, it was totally different. That's the example to follow, no matter what your beef in society is. And if you want to be treated like everyone else, then you gotta act like everyone else. If you're seeking acceptance and equality within a society, why in the hell would your methodology be to change that society? Makes fucking zero sense. MLK moved metaphoric mountains. He did it with class. He had a servant's heart. And most importantly, he never intended to turn the existing society upside down. He simply wanted his people to have the same opportunities and rights within that society as was their God-given right according to America's founding documents. He was right and righteous and he accomplished a lot. Would that the "lives matter" leaders pursue the same template! Then normal people like me would get behind them!
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Post by sdrew13163 on Oct 13, 2017 21:47:08 GMT
"...Lives Matter Threads" Lives Matter
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 13, 2017 23:50:44 GMT
Imagine if people routinely went around saying things like, "Attention, please! Attention! I'd just like to acknowledge that Bob is not only a person; he's a human being. Thank you."Wow. Oh my gosh. That's so great. - Jimmy Fallon
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Post by audiosane on Oct 16, 2017 10:41:32 GMT
Lets cut it out with making lite of "lives matter" already. It may be a joke to you, but to the people that it does matter it means something very deep and very real. They're literally saying that they want to be acknowledged as people, as human beings that matter. When you say dumb crap like porg lives matter and gungan lives matter you're being incredibly immature, ignorant and dismissive about a very real issue. Cut the crap. You're not as funny as you think. Sorry, I don't like the "lives matter" idea and I will take every chance I can get to ridicule said idea. If you really care about people who have joined these militant groups - and I'm talking all of them, the blacks in BLM, the Hispanic folks who want to speak Spanish and wave Mexican flags and the whites joining neo-Nazi cults - your advice to them should be: Shut it. Just shut your mouth. Shut...shut...shhhh...shut it. Because all these groups do is help solidify division. They do not help. They never help. When you look at the way MLK conducted himself, it was totally different. That's the example to follow, no matter what your beef in society is. And if you want to be treated like everyone else, then you gotta act like everyone else. If you're seeking acceptance and equality within a society, why in the hell would your methodology be to change that society? Makes fucking zero sense. MLK moved metaphoric mountains. He did it with class. He had a servant's heart. And most importantly, he never intended to turn the existing society upside down. He simply wanted his people to have the same opportunities and rights within that society as was their God-given right according to America's founding documents. He was right and righteous and he accomplished a lot. Would that the "lives matter" leaders pursue the same template! Then normal people like me would get behind them! Remind me again, how is BLM a militant group? I don't see them wearing camouflage and toting semi-automatic weapons during protests. I also don't see them target practicing in the woods or talking about stock piling weapons in fear of the government taking them away. How are Hispanics militant for waving their Mexican flag and speaking Spanish? Do you criticize Italian Americans for celebrating their cultural roots here? How about the Irish? Newflash: America's a very diverse nation. We're not all white. We aren't limited to traditional American culture. Expect that expression of cultural diversity to increase over time. Fuck conformity. Fuck assimilation. This is America. Let people be true to themselves. That's what freedom... is all about. The fact that you conveniently package BLM and Mexicans up with neo-Nazi cults shows how fucked up your thinking is. People like you are part of the problem. I don't care how classy MLK was. He disrupted the status quo of his day. Insisting that whites treat blacks equally in terms of bus seating, voting rights, etc. ticked off more than a few white people. Funny how BLM insisting that cops treat black people fairly, especially when they're unarmed, also ticks off more than a few white people today. But hey, let's pretend "we're doing it all wrong".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 13:48:56 GMT
Remind me again, how is BLM a militant group? I don't see them wearing camouflage and toting semi-automatic weapons during protests. I also don't see them target practicing in the woods or talking about stock piling weapons in fear of the government taking them away. How are Hispanics militant for waving their Mexican flag and speaking Spanish? Do you criticize Italian Americans for celebrating their cultural roots here? How about the Irish? Newflash: America's a very diverse nation. We're not all white. We aren't limited to traditional American culture. Expect that expression of cultural diversity to increase over time. Fuck conformity. Fuck assimilation. This is America. Let people be true to themselves. That's what freedom... is all about. The fact that you conveniently package BLM and Mexicans up with neo-Nazi cults shows how fucked up your thinking is. People like you are part of the problem. I don't care how classy MLK was. He disrupted the status quo of his day. Insisting that whites treat blacks equally in terms of bus seating, voting rights, etc. ticked off more than a few white people. Funny how BLM insisting that cops treat black people fairly, especially when they're unarmed, also ticks off more than a few white people today. But hey, let's pretend "we're doing it all wrong". Say what you will my little green friend, but looting and calling for dead cops is not the same as insisting that cops treat black people fairly. Calling for the death of anyone makes you militant in my book. Asking a nation to change its language or add a second language is also unacceptable. I have no problem with Italians waving Italian flags. For that matter, I have no problem with Mexicans waving Mexican flags. It's the douche bags who wave their Mexican flags as a sign of their intent to nationalize parts of America into Mexican culture that I have a problem with. And I'm afraid you have me all wrong. People like me are not the problem. People like me identify problems and then solve them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 14:25:02 GMT
Fuck assimilation. This is America. Let people be true to themselves. That's what freedom... is all about. Also, this part right here is pure lunacy. A lot of the people coming to America come from socialist states and they actually think socialism is a good thing. Should we encourage them to "be true to themselves" and plot against our system of capitalism? A lot of the people coming to America come from theocratic Muslim societies. Should we encourage them to "be true to themselves" and plot against our system of secular democracy? A lot of the people coming to America come from societies where the legal system is completely corrupt. Should we encourage them to "be true to themselves" and try to bribe their way through legal system at the expense of justice for other citizens? The distinguishing line that you don't seem to fathom is the difference between culture and nationalism. You can live as a Jew in America, you can worship on the Sabbath, you can wave the star of David around and you can speak Hebrew in your personal life. Hell, we'll even accommodate you in most cases and let you leave work early on a Friday. But what you can't do is be a Jew and come to America with the intent of setting up Judaism as law or expect business in the private or public sectors to be conducted in Hebrew. Capitalism. English. Republic. Rule of Law. You don't like these things, you don't really want to be an American, so why are you here?
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Post by pete8680 on Oct 16, 2017 22:35:14 GMT
Lies Matter Too
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Post by audiosane on Oct 17, 2017 19:03:28 GMT
Remind me again, how is BLM a militant group? I don't see them wearing camouflage and toting semi-automatic weapons during protests. I also don't see them target practicing in the woods or talking about stock piling weapons in fear of the government taking them away. How are Hispanics militant for waving their Mexican flag and speaking Spanish? Do you criticize Italian Americans for celebrating their cultural roots here? How about the Irish? Newflash: America's a very diverse nation. We're not all white. We aren't limited to traditional American culture. Expect that expression of cultural diversity to increase over time. Fuck conformity. Fuck assimilation. This is America. Let people be true to themselves. That's what freedom... is all about. The fact that you conveniently package BLM and Mexicans up with neo-Nazi cults shows how fucked up your thinking is. People like you are part of the problem. I don't care how classy MLK was. He disrupted the status quo of his day. Insisting that whites treat blacks equally in terms of bus seating, voting rights, etc. ticked off more than a few white people. Funny how BLM insisting that cops treat black people fairly, especially when they're unarmed, also ticks off more than a few white people today. But hey, let's pretend "we're doing it all wrong". Say what you will my little green friend, but looting and calling for dead cops is not the same as insisting that cops treat black people fairly. Calling for the death of anyone makes you militant in my book. Asking a nation to change its language or add a second language is also unacceptable. I have no problem with Italians waving Italian flags. For that matter, I have no problem with Mexicans waving Mexican flags. It's the douche bags who wave their Mexican flags as a sign of their intent to nationalize parts of America into Mexican culture that I have a problem with. And I'm afraid you have me all wrong. People like me are not the problem. People like me identify problems and then solve them. You blame an entire organization for the disruptive behavior of a handful of people, and then you place it in the same category as neo-Nazi cults. You're changing your argument. Before, you criticized Hispanics for speaking Spanish and proudly waving their flags. Now you say it's them wanting America to change it's official language. They're not the same thing. You're not identifying problems. You're creating ones where they don't exist.
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