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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 15, 2017 1:10:46 GMT
Just saw Professor Marston & the Wonder Women today. Good movie. I rate it 8 out of 10.
It's currently at 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not as high as the 92% for Wonder Woman, but still pretty good. This is going to give even more positive R for Wonder Woman, which could help Wonder Woman get the 1st-ever Best Picture Oscar nomination for a CBM.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 1:17:37 GMT
Just saw Professor Marston & the Wonder Women today. Good movie. I rate it 8 out of 10.
It's currently at 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not as high as the 92% for Wonder Woman, but still pretty good. This is going to give even more positive R for Wonder Woman, which could help Wonder Woman get the 1st-ever Best Picture Oscar nomination for a CBM. And WW will be getting all the Dunkirk nominations because TDK should have been nominated for an Oscar in 2009.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 15, 2017 1:19:04 GMT
Had no idea it was out. If it comes to Netflix I'll watch it.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 15, 2017 1:37:31 GMT
Just saw Professor Marston & the Wonder Women today. Good movie. I rate it 8 out of 10.
It's currently at 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not as high as the 92% for Wonder Woman, but still pretty good. This is going to give even more positive R for Wonder Woman, which could help Wonder Woman get the 1st-ever Best Picture Oscar nomination for a CBM. So you're admitting Wonder Woman has a booster, and it wouldn't get one on its own merits. 87% tho? Huh. That means Homecoming and Civil War, and Avengers are better, right? Remember, can't pick and choose with RottenTomatoes But either way, Blade Runner 2049, Baby Driver, Get Out, Dunkirk, Darkest Hour, The Shape of Water and Detroit are the likely choices for Best Pictures. If they must do a comic book movie, then Logan is the only one that would truly get it. Nothing about Wonder Woman merits best picture other than being a female-lead superhero film. But that's just pandering to the PC/feminist Liberal crowd. Politics need to stay out of films.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 15, 2017 1:57:22 GMT
Just saw Professor Marston & the Wonder Women today. Good movie. I rate it 8 out of 10.
It's currently at 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not as high as the 92% for Wonder Woman, but still pretty good. This is going to give even more positive R for Wonder Woman, which could help Wonder Woman get the 1st-ever Best Picture Oscar nomination for a CBM. 87% tho? Huh. That means Homecoming and Civil War, and Avengers are better, right? Based on the stupidity of your comments, you obviously don't realize that Professor Marston & the Wonder Women isn't a CBM. It's a biopic (like LBJ, Darkest Hour, The Man Who Invented Christmas, and The Greatest Showman). So any comparisons to SMH, Civil War, or Avengers is as invalid as comparing apples to oranges. But either way, Blade Runner 2049, Baby Driver, Get Out, Dunkirk, Darkest Hour, The Shape of Water and Detroit are the likely choices for Best Pictures. That's only 7. The Academy increased the maximum number of Best Picture nominations to 10 after The Dark Knight was snubbed for a Best Picture nomination in the 2008 award year. If they must do a comic book movie, then Logan is the only one that would truly get it. Wonder Woman has a better chance than Logan of getting a Best Picture nomination because 1) Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for in Best Picture nominees and 2) Wonder Woman has been the more talked-about movie and has gotten more positive PR than Logan.
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Post by sostie on Oct 15, 2017 2:00:28 GMT
If they must do a comic book movie, then Logan is the only one that would truly get it. Wonder Woman has a better chance than Logan of getting a Best Picture nomination because 1) Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for in Best Picture nominees and 2) Wonder Woman has been the more talked-about movie and has gotten more positive PR than Logan. And not on merit for being a better movie (which WW was not)
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 15, 2017 2:07:18 GMT
Wonder Woman has a better chance than Logan of getting a Best Picture nomination because 1) Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for in Best Picture nominees and 2) Wonder Woman has been the more talked-about movie and has gotten more positive PR than Logan. And what exactly are those boxes checked off the Academy is looking for? If it has anything to do with the fact that it's a female-lead superhero film, that's not what they're looking for. That's just the Liberal agenda and politics interfering where it shouldn't be
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 15, 2017 2:49:36 GMT
Just saw Professor Marston & the Wonder Women today. Good movie. I rate it 8 out of 10.
It's currently at 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not as high as the 92% for Wonder Woman, but still pretty good. This is going to give even more positive R for Wonder Woman, which could help Wonder Woman get the 1st-ever Best Picture Oscar nomination for a CBM. The DCEU, thirsty for awards... Hee hee hee... SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 15:49:04 GMT
It will be an absolute disaster for DC and WB if WW doesn't receive multiple Oscar nominations in the prestigious categories.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 16, 2017 16:22:14 GMT
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Post by dazz on Oct 16, 2017 22:16:03 GMT
Wonder Woman has a better chance than Logan of getting a Best Picture nomination because 1) Wonder Woman checks off more of the boxes that the Academy looks for in Best Picture nominees and 2) Wonder Woman has been the more talked-about movie and has gotten more positive PR than Logan. And what exactly are those boxes checked off the Academy is looking for? If it has anything to do with the fact that it's a female-lead superhero film, that's not what they're looking for. That's just the Liberal agenda and politics interfering where it shouldn't be WW does check a lot of boxes the Academy want ticked to try and distance their image of being all old white and male, WW has an ethnic lead, female lead, female director, and has a strong young fan demographic, add to that it's a war film & period piece which again tick off boxes, Patty Jenkins helps because she has credibility behind her after her previous film won an Oscar for her lead actress.
Could WW get a nomination? absolutely it could it checks enough of the superficial boxes that people maybe inclined to vote for it just because they need to nominate x amount of films and so it sounds like a ok choice, should it get nominated for any major Oscar? no it really shouldn't, it's a fine film but that is a far cry away from being award worthy, also given the academy's stodginess if they were inclined to give a CBM a nomination it would likely only be one and Logan deserves it so much more, not only for the quality of the film but because of the meaning that film has behind it, Patty Jenkins, Wonder Women hell even Gal Gadot have multiple more chances to earn that honor, Logan was the swan song for Jackman & the character.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 17, 2017 2:38:08 GMT
And what exactly are those boxes checked off the Academy is looking for? If it has anything to do with the fact that it's a female-lead superhero film, that's not what they're looking for. That's just the Liberal agenda and politics interfering where it shouldn't be WW does check a lot of boxes the Academy want ticked to try and distance their image of being all old white and male, WW has an ethnic lead, female lead, female director, and has a strong young fan demographic, add to that it's a war film & period piece which again tick off boxes, Patty Jenkins helps because she has credibility behind her after her previous film won an Oscar for her lead actress.
Could WW get a nomination? absolutely it could it checks enough of the superficial boxes that people maybe inclined to vote for it just because they need to nominate x amount of films and so it sounds like a ok choice, should it get nominated for any major Oscar? no it really shouldn't, it's a fine film but that is a far cry away from being award worthy, also given the academy's stodginess if they were inclined to give a CBM a nomination it would likely only be one and Logan deserves it so much more, not only for the quality of the film but because of the meaning that film has behind it, Patty Jenkins, Wonder Women hell even Gal Gadot have multiple more chances to earn that honor, Logan was the swan song for Jackman & the character.
Wonder Woman has a better chance of a Best Picture Oscar nomination than Logan. As for Jackman, the Academy can still nominate Jackman for Best Actor this year but they won't nominate him for Logan. Instead, they'll just nominate him for The Greatest Showman.
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Post by dazz on Oct 17, 2017 3:28:42 GMT
WW does check a lot of boxes the Academy want ticked to try and distance their image of being all old white and male, WW has an ethnic lead, female lead, female director, and has a strong young fan demographic, add to that it's a war film & period piece which again tick off boxes, Patty Jenkins helps because she has credibility behind her after her previous film won an Oscar for her lead actress.
Could WW get a nomination? absolutely it could it checks enough of the superficial boxes that people maybe inclined to vote for it just because they need to nominate x amount of films and so it sounds like a ok choice, should it get nominated for any major Oscar? no it really shouldn't, it's a fine film but that is a far cry away from being award worthy, also given the academy's stodginess if they were inclined to give a CBM a nomination it would likely only be one and Logan deserves it so much more, not only for the quality of the film but because of the meaning that film has behind it, Patty Jenkins, Wonder Women hell even Gal Gadot have multiple more chances to earn that honor, Logan was the swan song for Jackman & the character.
Wonder Woman has a better chance of a Best Picture Oscar nomination than Logan. As for Jackman, the Academy can still nominate Jackman for Best Actor this year but they won't nominate him for Logan. Instead, they'll just nominate him for The Greatest Showman. Well done numpty you made no points and ignored what I said, I never said Logan is more likely I said it was more deserving, in terms of actually deserving the award it's nominated for Logan deserves a best picture nod, WW does not, WW is a fine movie and a good CBM but that's it, Logan deserves it on merit not politics, also Logan as the culmination of 17 years and 9 films for Jackman and the character it deserves that recognition, WW doesn't yet, but WW does have the foundation to earn that in the next film or even the 3rd act of a WW trilogy.
Jackman maybe getting a nom for a different movie has no bearing on this, out of the 2 Oscar considerations in the CBM genre Logan deserves it hands down more, only reason WW would get it is for bullshit pr, politics and gender bs, and to give WW or Patty Jenkins those nods for those reasons is a disservice to the brand and the director who can easily earn that the right way imo.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 17, 2017 3:50:03 GMT
Wonder Woman has a better chance of a Best Picture Oscar nomination than Logan. As for Jackman, the Academy can still nominate Jackman for Best Actor this year but they won't nominate him for Logan. Instead, they'll just nominate him for The Greatest Showman. Well done numpty you made no points and ignored what I said, I never said Logan is more likely I said it was more deserving, in terms of actually deserving the award it's nominated for Logan deserves a best picture nod, WW does not, WW is a fine movie and a good CBM but that's it, Logan deserves it on merit not politics, also Logan as the culmination of 17 years and 9 films for Jackman and the character it deserves that recognition, WW doesn't yet, but WW does have the foundation to earn that in the next film or even the 3rd act of a WW trilogy.
Jackman maybe getting a nom for a different movie has no bearing on this, out of the 2 Oscar considerations in the CBM genre Logan deserves it hands down more, only reason WW would get it is for bullshit pr, politics and gender bs, and to give WW or Patty Jenkins those nods for those reasons is a disservice to the brand and the director who can easily earn that the right way imo.
No, Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan. Wonder Woman is a better movie than Logan and Wonder Woman definitely deserves an Oscar nomination more than Logan.
And the Academy doesn't award Oscar nominations just because a character dies after many years and several movies. If they did, then they would've award Oscar nominations to William Shatner when Captain Kirk died in Star Trek Generations and to Harrison Ford when Han Solo died in The Force Awakens.
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Post by dazz on Oct 17, 2017 4:16:59 GMT
Wonder Woman isn't rated highest you pleb, only by RT's opinion piece you love flashing around which is meaningless crap, based on the multitude of reviews both in terms of overall positive reviews and in terms of combined actual scoring Logan scores higher, it's only in that 1 piece you quote repeatedly which ignores these facts and applies bs justifiers to WW's score that it tops the list.
RT has WW at 92% fresh with an average rating of 7.6, Logan is at 93% fresh and 7.9 rating, or in terms of fan scoring Logan = 90% fresh and 4.4/5 whilst WW is 89% and 4.3/5, Logan is clearly the higher rated film and that's because it's the better film, Logan got that score based on merit, WW got that score because it's better than a lot of bad films the came before hand, it's the first in it's sub-genre since the CBM boom and it got a slight but obvious leeway and boost because of people being afraid to truly honest about the films quality incase they were labelled as sexist.
Wonder woman has several flaws to it, some are silly and fun, others not only pussy out of a true strong message but also contradict established backstory put in place, it's a fun movie but a flawed one to such a degree it has no right getting an Oscar nod for best picture, but that's a fault that is understandable given the scenario the film was placed in, but it does not excuse it and mean it should get an Oscar nod in spite of itself.
But just stop trying to claim WW is the best CBM ever because it's fucking bullshit mate, and you look like a prat repeatedly claiming it especially when using a single bias article or think piece as "evidence", WW is not the highest rated nor is it the highest earning CBM ever either of those could justify saying it's the best ever but it does neither so it clearly isnt.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 17, 2017 4:56:43 GMT
Well done numpty you made no points and ignored what I said, I never said Logan is more likely I said it was more deserving, in terms of actually deserving the award it's nominated for Logan deserves a best picture nod, WW does not, WW is a fine movie and a good CBM but that's it, Logan deserves it on merit not politics, also Logan as the culmination of 17 years and 9 films for Jackman and the character it deserves that recognition, WW doesn't yet, but WW does have the foundation to earn that in the next film or even the 3rd act of a WW trilogy.
Jackman maybe getting a nom for a different movie has no bearing on this, out of the 2 Oscar considerations in the CBM genre Logan deserves it hands down more, only reason WW would get it is for bullshit pr, politics and gender bs, and to give WW or Patty Jenkins those nods for those reasons is a disservice to the brand and the director who can easily earn that the right way imo.
No, Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan. Wonder Woman is a better movie than Logan and Wonder Woman definitely deserves an Oscar nomination more than Logan.
And the Academy doesn't award Oscar nominations just because a character dies after many years and several movies. If they did, then they would've award Oscar nominations to William Shatner when Captain Kirk died in Star Trek Generations and to Harrison Ford when Han Solo died in The Force Awakens.
Hugh Jackman gave a far more powerful and intense performance as Logan than anyone in Wonder Woman did, even more than Gal Gadot. Even Patrick Stewart did as well. When it comes to the Academy, RottenTomatos means jackshit. You want to keep getting on your highhorse with the RottenTomatos bullshit claiming Wonder Woman is great, be my guest if that just makes you feel better about yourself and your precious DC franchise, but it' a strawman argument because you can't provide any context of why beyond, "Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan." because RottenTomatos means nothing and it's just your opinion. Even the Adjusted Score is bullshit and you're just grasping onto it because when Spider-Man first came out, you kept calling out on the regular RT score being lower than Wonder Woman, but then when it was higher, you immediately jumped to the adjusted score because you had nothing to argue against Spider-Man's success. However, what is a fact, is that the Academy is extremely Liberal, so Wonder Woman would only get the nomination because of gender politics. It would be extremely superficial and as the other person said, a disservice really to all the actresses and female directors who have earned their Oscars wins or nomination.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 17, 2017 5:08:52 GMT
Wonder Woman isn't rated highest you pleb, only by RT's opinion piece you love flashing around which is meaningless crap, based on the multitude of reviews both in terms of overall positive reviews and in terms of combined actual scoring Logan scores higher, it's only in that 1 piece you quote repeatedly which ignores these facts and applies bs justifiers to WW's score that it tops the list. RT has WW at 92% fresh with an average rating of 7.6, Logan is at 93% fresh and 7.9 rating, or in terms of fan scoring Logan = 90% fresh and 4.4/5 whilst WW is 89% and 4.3/5, Logan is clearly the higher rated film Nope, Wonder Woman is rated higher than Logan and every other superhero movie: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All TimeAnd that rating isn't BS. That rating is based on an adjusted score (similar to how IMDb uses a weighted average instead of just a raw average) and is more accurate than just a raw score. stop trying to claim WW is the best CBM ever because it's fucking bullshit you look like a prat repeatedly claiming it especially when using a single bias article Nope, its not bullshit and it isn't biased. For the past decade, MCU fans have treated RT as gospel and have bragged about MCU movies always getting high RT scores. So it's hypocrisy for you MCU fans to claim RT is biased now that RT rates Wonder Woman as the best superhero movie of all time. WW is not the highest rated Yes, it is: 50 Best Superhero Movies of All Time
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 17, 2017 5:20:30 GMT
You want to keep getting on your highhorse with the RottenTomatos bullshit claiming Wonder Woman is great to validate yourself, be my guest if that just makes you feel better about yourself and your precious DC franchise, but it' a strawman argument because you can't provide any context of why beyond, "Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan." because RottenTomatos means nothing and it's just your opinion. Even the Adjusted Score is bullshit and you're just grasping onto it because when Spider-Man first came out, you kept calling out on the regular RT score being lower than Wonder Woman, but then when it was higher, you immediately jumped to the adjusted score because you had nothing to argue against Spider-Man's success.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 17, 2017 5:27:32 GMT
You want to keep getting on your highhorse with the RottenTomatos bullshit claiming Wonder Woman is great to validate yourself, be my guest if that just makes you feel better about yourself and your precious DC franchise, but it' a strawman argument because you can't provide any context of why beyond, "Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan." because RottenTomatos means nothing and it's just your opinion. Even the Adjusted Score is bullshit and you're just grasping onto it because when Spider-Man first came out, you kept calling out on the regular RT score being lower than Wonder Woman, but then when it was higher, you immediately jumped to the adjusted score because you had nothing to argue against Spider-Man's success. It's obvious from the denials and excuses in your post that you're clearly upset and stressed out that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st superhero movie to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 17, 2017 5:33:34 GMT
You want to keep getting on your highhorse with the RottenTomatos bullshit claiming Wonder Woman is great to validate yourself, be my guest if that just makes you feel better about yourself and your precious DC franchise, but it' a strawman argument because you can't provide any context of why beyond, "Wonder Woman is rated the best superhero movie of all-time, even higher than Logan." because RottenTomatos means nothing and it's just your opinion. Even the Adjusted Score is bullshit and you're just grasping onto it because when Spider-Man first came out, you kept calling out on the regular RT score being lower than Wonder Woman, but then when it was higher, you immediately jumped to the adjusted score because you had nothing to argue against Spider-Man's success. It's obvious from the denials in your post that you're clearly upset and stressed out that Wonder Woman is a strong contender to be the 1st superhero movie to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. Yeah, it's obvious you deflected, and deflected everything, hard!!! that I said because you know what I said is true. I'm half surprised you even responded, because usually when you get owned pretty bad, you just ignore the topic at hand and move on because you can't provide a rational rebuttal without throwing a hissy fit.
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