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Post by leesilm on Oct 16, 2017 15:36:05 GMT
You will be missed, and I will never forgive you for Joe's ending, but I am glad we got a real ending. It is so rare that a show isn't cancelled just when it was getting good and hitting it's stride, or more often nipped in the bud before it gets a chance to show just how great it might have been (I'm looking at you FIREFLY and MOONLIGHT), and sometimes they just get trashed beyond recognition and then put out of their misery. But AMC, for reasons no one ever seems sure about, gave HALT AND CATCH FIRE a full run. It was an awesome show all about these characters and their journeys, relationships, and now- the results of chasing both.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 16, 2017 22:36:54 GMT
I can't say I was a fan at all;gave up after halfway through the first season. But I do sympathize with fans of any program unfairly canceled.
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Post by leesilm on Oct 17, 2017 17:27:59 GMT
Well, I admit, I was a fan of 2 of the actors and that was what got me into watching in the first place. But I loved Joe, Gordon, & Bos, as characters, so I stuck it out. I have been known to watch shows I didn't love the plot of, cause I loved 1 or more characters. Although S2 of H&CF tested my limits but S3 and most of S4 were worth sticking it out for- for me, any way. I never could get into Donna or Cameron as characters, though Haley was pretty cool.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 18, 2017 0:37:48 GMT
I am with you.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 18, 2017 0:38:17 GMT
Donna was my favorite actually.
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Post by Sulla on Oct 18, 2017 0:54:25 GMT
I became interested in the show because of the 80s nostalgic aspect. I'm not a computer geek, so I didn't always understand specifically what they were doing in that field. But it's not really necessary to follow the stories. I eventually grew to like Bos the best. And Donna/Gordon, too. I can't say I liked Joe much. The final episode seemed anticlimactic after Gordon died. Okay, Joe left. No big surprise there. He seems too self-centered to have a lasting relationship. But Haley was becoming one of the more interesting characterss. If the show continued, she would probably be one of the main stars.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 18, 2017 1:50:11 GMT
I became interested in the show because of the 80s nostalgic aspect. I'm not a computer geek, so I didn't always understand specifically what they were doing in that field. But it's not really necessary to follow the stories. I eventually grew to like Bos the best. And Donna/Gordon, too. I can't say I liked Joe much. The final episode seemed anticlimactic after Gordon died. Okay, Joe left. No big surprise there. He seems too self-centered to have a lasting relationship. But Haley was becoming one of the more interesting characterss. If the show continued, she would probably be one of the main stars.
I feel like he resigned himself to a life of solitude after losing everything in his life driving him forward, he was simply too beaten down.
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Post by Sulla on Oct 18, 2017 2:21:23 GMT
I became interested in the show because of the 80s nostalgic aspect. I'm not a computer geek, so I didn't always understand specifically what they were doing in that field. But it's not really necessary to follow the stories. I eventually grew to like Bos the best. And Donna/Gordon, too. I can't say I liked Joe much. The final episode seemed anticlimactic after Gordon died. Okay, Joe left. No big surprise there. He seems too self-centered to have a lasting relationship. But Haley was becoming one of the more interesting characterss. If the show continued, she would probably be one of the main stars.
I feel like he resigned himself to a life of solitude after losing everything in his life driving him forward, he was simply too beaten down. Possibly so. I hadn't thought of it that way. Some of the commentary on the show reminds me that I'm not looking at the broad perspective of the whole series. It's been a few years since I saw the pilot and some details elude me. Reviewing the early episodes, some have pointed out that Joe has been on a long journey to humanity and becoming a better person. And by the end, he and Cameron were growing in different directions.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 18, 2017 3:44:01 GMT
I feel like he resigned himself to a life of solitude after losing everything in his life driving him forward, he was simply too beaten down. Possibly so. I hadn't thought of it that way. Some of the commentary on the show reminds me that I'm not looking at the broad perspective of the whole series. It's been a few years since I saw the pilot and some details elude me. Reviewing the early episodes, some have pointed out that Joe has been on a long journey to humanity and becoming a better person. And by the end, he and Cameron were growing in different directions.
I am happy they didn't force them together at all ewwww, I felt like their relationship was much more honest in that regard.
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Post by leesilm on Oct 19, 2017 23:18:06 GMT
Possibly so. I hadn't thought of it that way. Some of the commentary on the show reminds me that I'm not looking at the broad perspective of the whole series. It's been a few years since I saw the pilot and some details elude me. Reviewing the early episodes, some have pointed out that Joe has been on a long journey to humanity and becoming a better person. And by the end, he and Cameron were growing in different directions.
I am happy they didn't force them together at all ewwww, I felt like their relationship was much more honest in that regard. Yeah, I mean while I liked Cam/Joe together (I blame their talk over the lighters in the hall in S3 and their talk in the car in S1 when she asked if he would get bored of her), I got to a point where I just couldn't see them sticking it out. When she was still more interested in the computers and such, while Joe was sitting there planning a house--I kept thinking, "Writing on the wall, Joe. You two are going in separate directions again", and I did not think they would come back together. I almost think they are supposed to be like Gordon/Donna, where they were together a while and they made each other better, but then they outgrew each other and became incompatible people- yet they still had all this history and they still cared about each other, plus they had the potential for a solid friendship at some point in the future. The idea of Joe being so isolated though, bothers me. He always was my favorite character from the first season. I kind of wish he at least had a dog. They could have had a picture of his dog(s) sitting on his desk at the school, showing he at least wasn't totally an island.
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Post by Nora on Jan 30, 2021 1:19:38 GMT
You will be missed, and I will never forgive you for Joe's ending, but I am glad we got a real ending. It is so rare that a show isn't cancelled just when it was getting good and hitting it's stride, or more often nipped in the bud before it gets a chance to show just how great it might have been (I'm looking at you FIREFLY and MOONLIGHT), and sometimes they just get trashed beyond recognition and then put out of their misery. But AMC, for reasons no one ever seems sure about, gave HALT AND CATCH FIRE a full run. It was an awesome show all about these characters and their journeys, relationships, and now- the results of chasing both. I cannot BELIVE what they did to Joe!! Wtf! That was the worst finale of any show ever (and I include HIMYM) completely disregarding the primary reason why this show was interesting in the first place and focusing on two immature and incredibly flawed human beings that were side kicks/ruiners of all that was going well ever? I cannot believe it. I did like Cameron even with her destructive ways byt why were we forced to watch 30 minutes of Donna and Cameron doing a lame chit chat and then see Joe just as a silly afterthought with nothing really going for him in his life and still looking in the past is beyond me. Hated every minute of the finale. Aaargh. Basically this show says: forget the truly interesting visionaries, that made things happen (Joe and Gordon, from women only Diane really) lets just focus on two women chatting about their “are we friends or not” feelings. Wtf. Wtf.
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Post by leesilm on Feb 17, 2021 23:18:00 GMT
You will be missed, and I will never forgive you for Joe's ending, but I am glad we got a real ending. It is so rare that a show isn't cancelled just when it was getting good and hitting it's stride, or more often nipped in the bud before it gets a chance to show just how great it might have been (I'm looking at you FIREFLY and MOONLIGHT), and sometimes they just get trashed beyond recognition and then put out of their misery. But AMC, for reasons no one ever seems sure about, gave HALT AND CATCH FIRE a full run. It was an awesome show all about these characters and their journeys, relationships, and now- the results of chasing both. I cannot BELIVE what they did to Joe!! Wtf! That was the worst finale of any show ever (and I include HIMYM) completely disregarding the primary reason why this show was interesting in the first place and focusing on two immature and incredibly flawed human beings that were side kicks/ruiners of all that was going well ever? I cannot believe it. I did like Cameron even with her destructive ways byt why were we forced to watch 30 minutes of Donna and Cameron doing a lame chit chat and then see Joe just as a silly afterthought with nothing really going for him in his life and still looking in the past is beyond me. Hated every minute of the finale. Aaargh. Basically this show says: forget the truly interesting visionaries, that made things happen (Joe and Gordon, from women only Diane really) lets just focus on two women chatting about their “are we friends or not” feelings. Wtf. Wtf. I'll have to take your word for HIMYM since, as I never watched it. But yeah, they did Joe and Gordon dirty, but especially Joe. If they had wanted to have Cameron have some sort of touchy-feely chit chat, couldn't they have let her have it with Gordon before his ending (they had a really interesting relationship) and maybe let Joe have some clear mentorship role with Haley? At least that'd be honoring the friendship he built with Gordon, allowing Joe to care for a kid, and giving Haley someone who had no ulterior motive to helping her except to see her succeed/honor her dad.
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