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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 26, 2020 4:52:10 GMT
I thought this was going to be a thread about John Spartan.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 26, 2020 14:15:06 GMT
Nalkarj alas I actually have not. Saw Nate & Hayes but not that other one.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jan 26, 2020 15:15:56 GMT
Crocodile Dundee
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 26, 2020 16:20:05 GMT
Nalkarj alas I actually have not. Saw Nate & Hayes but not that other one. Oh, I meant the Librarian movies—the ones with Noah Wyle.
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Post by shannondegroot on Jan 26, 2020 16:51:59 GMT
Brisco County Jr (1993) Relic Hunter (1999)
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Post by politicidal on Jan 26, 2020 17:39:33 GMT
Nalkarj alas I actually have not. Saw Nate & Hayes but not that other one. Oh, I meant the Librarian movies—the ones with Noah Wyle. Yeah I saw all 3. The first one is probably the best-or at least looks the most expensive. Return to King Solomon's Mines is kind of one of those "bickering couple" road movies. Curse of the Judas Chalice is fine. It honestly has a real cool setup and probably the best story out of all 3 but again, it seemed limited by the confines of a television movie budget.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 27, 2020 19:09:54 GMT
Did I mention I finally got around to seeing Secret of the Incas back in February? It’s definitely a direct inspiration for Raiders, yes, but it’s a tedious movie, going around in circles and getting nowhere fast. Heston, meanwhile, is unlikable and hammy as the proto-Indy, and the production all looks cheap despite the location filming. Weirdly, despite being about temples and ruins, a lot of the movie is shot on what look like dingy, badly-lit sets.
Some interesting plot points (e.g., Casablanca-style letters of transport), though as is typical with this movie the director and script bungle the ending.
The Harry Steele character, too, is weaselly and irritating, unlike Indiana Jones. (Even in early Raiders, when Indy has that hard edge, he’s humanized by flaws like the fear of snakes while coming off as genuinely tough. Steele’s just a cowardly jerk.) The look probably inspired Raiders more than anything else.
Valley of the Kings is much better.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 27, 2020 19:51:52 GMT
By coincidence I listened to the radio version of Secret of the Incas last night. The relationship between Harry Steele and his competitor also probably inspired Raiders (Belloq). And in Raiders, Indy leaves Marion tied up because he doesn't want to blow the treasure quest. Steele ultimately decides he doesn't want to become like his rival who dies for his treasure quest (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom seemed to borrow the element of Steele wanting to keep the treasure but giving it back to the villagers). The main difference between them is that there's no comedy in his characterization. Indiana Jones is often a butt of jokes--SOTI is a straight adventure story (I found it unsatisfying but the relationship to Raiders made it fascinating). Re: THE GHOST AND THE DARKNESS -- Michael Douglas is unconvincing as a big game hunter and the strange pivot in the story towards muslims and making fun of hindus seemed to be on the nose political bias. Not to mention it has an attitude towards wildlife that seemed to be approved by the Safari Club. Re: LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN--the worst thing about it is the CGI overkill and the MTV-type editing. I liked most of the changes they made from the comic book, except renaming the Invisible Man and Fu Manchu should have appeared. Adding Dorian Gray and the plot concerning a means of weaponizing their powers helped the story IMO. The book is not cinematic enough. Another Indiana Jones-inspired film is SPHINX, starring Leslie-Anne Down, who looks a lot like Eleanor Parker from Valley of the Kings--except Down has the most godawful hairstyle and her performance is not good--and this is the only starring role she had that i know of. It has John Rhys Davies and another Raiders actor Tutte Lemkow.
Oh yeah, and SAVAGE ISLANDS aka NATE AND HAYES not only has a few Indiana Jones elements (the rope bridge in Temple of Doom was inspired by the one in this 1983 film) but it also may well have been an influence on PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN.
I think DOC SAVAGE THE MAN OF BRONZE could have used some Raiders-type effects--if the glowing green snakes had been more like Ark angels the movie would have had much more pizzazz (and if the comedy was ejected).
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