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Post by deembastille on Mar 18, 2017 15:56:17 GMT
the biggest problem I have is the exposure of young children to these things when parents don't talk to their children anymore. If parents DO pay attention to what their kids are watching/are exposed to and do discuss what is going on, then fine but many to most parents nowadays don't. some don't even think it is their job to teach their kids anything. do you know how many times I hear a parent/grandparent say: I have no fucking idea how my === knows swear words.' or, my personal favorite: NA MY CHILE YOU NI99ER HATING WHITE HONKEY BITCH!' This is what 'parenting and grandparenting' is to some/many/most people now [depending on where you live]. THIS IS REALITY OF AMERICAN PARENTING AND THE TV/MOVIE EXECS KNOW IT.
off topic a bit but I am sure you know the show Boy Meets World... that one episode of the boys getting drunk and peeing on a cop car was banned and never shown on the Disney Channel. it was too risque for the DC people to be comfortable showing. they were/are afraid that it will give children the idea the underage drinking is cool/okay/even legal when it isn't. and again, it isn't the giving the children the idea, it is the knowledge that PARENTS. JUST. DON'T. TALK. TO. THEIR. CHILDREN. ANY. MORE. OR EVEN. KNOW. WHAT. THEY ARE. UP. TO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 16:19:23 GMT
Being a compassionate person, however, I sincerely hope you see the error of your ways sooner rather than later, seek forgiveness and and try to show repentence for your vile, hateful utterings. The best part of this is seeing mslo79 's hypocrisy with his "holier than thou" attitude" in this thread, when on other threads he has no problem admitting that he likes to steal movies.... |
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Post by deembastille on Mar 18, 2017 16:58:04 GMT
Being a compassionate person, however, I sincerely hope you see the error of your ways sooner rather than later, seek forgiveness and and try to show repentence for your vile, hateful utterings. The best part of this is seeing mslo79 's hypocrisy with his "holier than thou" attitude" in this thread, when on other threads he has no problem admitting that he likes to steal movies.... and this I the biggest problem I have with the uber catholics/Baptists/Lutherans [whomever -- I hardly see anyone from a non-Christian religion be like this]. do as I say not as I do. the laws in their religion are options to them but not to you. doesn't matter if you are part of their religion or not, you are wrong and they are right. That is why I stopped going to church. and they are okay with kids being born into the world by parents who don't give a shit, who are abusive, who don't care, who can't take care of themselves. and then when acs has to get involved, aw naw! you ain't takin ma baby from me! [kills the acs worker]. These uber religious people get bugs up their butts and protest abortion clinics/planned parenthood but have apparently have no problem with letting these children they are forcing to be born to be abused, malnourished, neglected and even killed [Zymere Perkins]. killing a life you don't want to/can't afford to/can't take care of is a no no but abusing/neglecting/killing them after they are living is okay? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:21:28 GMT
Sexual orientation is not a choice of lifestyle. Some people are, in fact, born gay. Everyone is born somewhere on the continuum of human sexuality that runs from heterosexual to homosexual. Some people are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual or transgendered. That's a fact supported by exhaustive scientific research, including neuroscientific research into the hard-wiring of the human brain. It's also a fact that the dominant heterosexual world-view makes it hard for those who aren't heterosexual to be comfortable with who they are (not who they choose to be). It's hard not to internalize the belief that there's something inherently wrong with you, when that's the message you've been given your whole life. Do straights take responsibility for their "choice" to be a heterosexual? Because if homosexuality is a choice, then so must heterosexuality be. Only, of course, it isn't, anymore than being born with red hair or brown eyes is a choice. This is not a hard concept to understand, once religious rhetoric is removed. ________ Well said spiderwort, and so true. What is most sad and scary, though, is that when the homophobes and bigots such as the ignorant palooka jamesavalon who you are replying to - or the notorious m-slovak79, read an intelligent, factual reply such as yours it does not even give them pause for thought, they just say nothing and simply continue posting their lies and distortions. Do you think this is because they lack the intelligence to understand what you are saying? Or, do you think they lack any form education? Or is is because they have been brainwashed since birth? What's sad and scary is that people WANT to believe that people are born with certain exact sexual preferences to the extent they will overlook the very simple and undeniable fact that there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Just because someone claims to have been born gay doesn't mean they were born gay. No person can have that kind of memory of their earliest years. This does not require much thought. There is no gay gene. Period. Simple. In any population there are statistically going to be people with sexual deviancies who are not heterosexual, which is biologically the natural state of the human species. Humans are not sequential hermaphrodites, at least not naturally. Humans are also not parthenogenetic in nature. To reproduce, we need a male and a female. This is not a difficult concept unless you have been thoroughly brainwashed to believe that we MUST assume for the sake of political correctness that all people are born with a sexual preference that we cannot control. No, our environments shape who we eventually become. It shapes what we like and what we don't like. It has a much greater impact than our most basic biological drives and homosexuality is proof. Now, if liberals weren't so desperate to maintain the idea we are all born with irresolute sexual preferences from the moment we are conceived, they would realize that this does not mean that people CHOOSE to be gay, which is almost wholly lost on people who are indeed brainwashed into this asinine politically correct position. Science is not political, unless you are a liberal trying to tell the world the planet is burning into oblivion. But, scientifically, there is exactly NO proof that anyone is born homosexual. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 19, 2017 0:27:44 GMT
I have said some harsh, ugly and unnecessary things to you in previous encounters Toasted Cheese. While I would be lying if I said I wasn't a wee bit disheartened with your angry comments on "The What is Feminism" thread, I would like to sincerely apologise for some of the comments I have levelled at you in the past, and for calling you Testes Cheese. You have posted three passionate, mature, scathing, intelligent, impressive and truthful response to m-slovak79, and I have to give credit where credit is due. You hit the nail on the head Toasted Cheese. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.  There is nothing to forgive jerffersoncody. You are entitled to your opinions and free to express yourself in any manner you so wish too. I don't recall taking offense to any of your comments, even if you found them disagreeable. Thanks anyway.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 19, 2017 1:22:02 GMT
Well said spiderwort, and so true. What is most sad and scary, though, is that when the homophobes and bigots such as the ignorant palooka jamesavalon who you are replying to - or the notorious m-slovak79, read an intelligent, factual reply such as yours it does not even give them pause for thought, they just say nothing and simply continue posting their lies and distortions. Do you think this is because they lack the intelligence to understand what you are saying? Or, do you think they lack any form education? Or is is because they have been brainwashed since birth? What's sad and scary is that people WANT to believe that people are born with certain exact sexual preferences to the extent they will overlook the very simple and undeniable fact that there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Just because someone claims to have been born gay doesn't mean they were born gay. No person can have that kind of memory of their earliest years...scientifically, there is exactly NO proof that anyone is born homosexual. By that same token, there is no proof that anyone is born heterosexual. How can you have that kind of memory in your earliest years to know that you have to be attracted to the opposite sex? Why is of concern to you anyway, who somebody else likes to f<>k, be it same or opposite gender? Are you a control freak, that wants to tell others what to do and how to live their lives, just because somebody isn't living according to your own self-centered and self-absorbed rules. Are you insecure and fear the homos are going to take over?  |
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Post by deembastille on Mar 19, 2017 1:30:40 GMT
What's sad and scary is that people WANT to believe that people are born with certain exact sexual preferences to the extent they will overlook the very simple and undeniable fact that there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Just because someone claims to have been born gay doesn't mean they were born gay. No person can have that kind of memory of their earliest years...scientifically, there is exactly NO proof that anyone is born homosexual. By that same token, there is no proof that anyone is born heterosexual. How can you have that kind of memory in your earliest years to know that you have to be attracted to the opposite sex? Why is of concern to you anyway, who somebody else likes to f<>k, be it same or opposite gender? Are you a control freak, that wants to tell others what to do and how to live their lives, just because somebody isn't living according to your own self-centered and self-absorbed rules. Are you insecure and fear the homos are going to take over? I agree and I take issue with introducing young children to this concept... I don't mean in a fantasy movie/show setting but a reality setting. I work in an elementary school and outside our social worker's office doors are these 'its okay to be gay' posters. I know they are MADE to post them but I just take issue with exposing really young children to this. like Prek students. little 4 year olds who still take naps during the day. they shouldn't know what gay is. if their parents are not comfortable with discussing this, why should the school showcase it? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 19, 2017 2:01:39 GMT
By that same token, there is no proof that anyone is born heterosexual. How can you have that kind of memory in your earliest years to know that you have to be attracted to the opposite sex? Why is of concern to you anyway, who somebody else likes to f<>k, be it same or opposite gender? Are you a control freak, that wants to tell others what to do and how to live their lives, just because somebody isn't living according to your own self-centered and self-absorbed rules. Are you insecure and fear the homos are going to take over? I agree and I take issue with introducing young children to this concept... I don't mean in a fantasy movie/show setting but a reality setting. I work in an elementary school and outside our social worker's office doors are these 'its okay to be gay' posters. I know they are MADE to post them but I just take issue with exposing really young children to this. like Prek students. little 4 year olds who still take naps during the day. they shouldn't know what gay is. if their parents are not comfortable with discussing this, why should the school showcase it? The issue is, 99.9999999999999 ad infinitum percentage of children are growing up in a heterosexist, dominated and promoted society that is seen as "normalcy". They have a mother and father and male\female unions are set up as the societal norm. I can't speak for female children, but I can recall as far back around 4 or 5 as a male child, that I knew I was different and would get a little excited around some of the male gender, in a way that being around females didn't do it for me. I was very sexual. That was a "normal" feeling for me, but I knew by about 7yrs of age I wasn't supposed to be feeling like this, due to what was promoted and the disdain for same sex attraction. Most kids are not stupid, and learn to build up survival and protective techniques at a very early age. They just don't have the mental development or language skills to express themselves.
Again, I can't speak for females, but the large number of males who were going to be sexually attracted to females, would take what they see for granted. It is ok to be "gay" and for those children who aren't, then I don't see anything wrong with them being exposed to something that would be perceived as different to them. Being gay is different and a different sociology also. Unfortunately, the sexuality minority takes a back seat. When the argument of "nature or nurture" rears it's confounded head, heterosexuals are the ones doing the breeding, it's their fault and they can just get over it. If children are taught and conditioned that no sexuality is superior over the other, only that one is more common than the other and they are both "normal" and on equal standing, then perhaps people might get a little more understanding and evolvement in the process.
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Post by THawk on Mar 19, 2017 2:04:54 GMT
If you're offended by family films acknowledging the existence of LGBT people, then you're frankly a horrible person and deserve to be offended. More idiotic statements, yet this is a very popular argument. These films are thinking much, much more than just "acknowledging the existence of LGBT people." |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 19, 2017 2:52:06 GMT
If you're offended by family films acknowledging the existence of LGBT people, then you're frankly a horrible person and deserve to be offended. More idiotic statements, yet this is a very popular argument. These films are thinking much, much more than just "acknowledging the existence of LGBT people." I don't even get the LGBT person association. Not all gay people are a part of the LGBT community or care to be apart of it and the transgender aspect is not even a sexuality. This gives off a misappropriated and misguided impressions towards homosexuality. Nice going LGBT community, who can be their own worst enemies. |
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 19, 2017 5:06:45 GMT
🎄Jan El Señor🎄 but if you notice... i said i am a sinner like everyone else, which is the truth (i don't get a free pass with God). hence, no 'holier than thou' attitude. i am just simply telling people it's wrong and it's on them whether they want to ignore the truth or not. also, with the movie comment about me... it comes back to whether that breaks the "Thou shalt not steal" commandment or not. it's kinda a grey area with us humans but i understand that with God there is no grey area as it's either stealing or it's not. if i wanted to play it safe, i would not do it. but to be honest... even assuming i am wrong and it is stealing in the eyes of God, it won't be easy for me to stop because it's just something i been doing for ages and it's too convenient for me. but even assuming it is stealing i am pretty sure that would be under the 'venial sin' category in my religion which, while i should still stop doing it since sin is bad, it's not mortal sin (serious sin) territory as that stuff you definitely don't want to risk since if something is mortal sin territory it's something you could risk hell for where as venial sin you don't. but like i have said before... no one can cheat God so if i am in the wrong, ill have to pay the price for it. also, if you really want to get into that whole hypocrite line of thinking... i imagine you could call many (if not nearly all) Christians that simply because if someone does not live those standards to the letter, which it's not realistic for the average person to commit no sin at all since we are all sinners and are basically going to sin to some degree, then you can call them a hypocrite because they are technically doing what they are supposed to be against. just some thoughts  deembastille i am sorry you feel this way, but don't let that push you away from the Truth. don't worry too much about what others think as in the end it's all about getting on God's good side which i realize won't be easy since we are all sinners. the truth is... no one is exempt from the laws of God. we all sin on some level and have to pay the price for it but i figure the main thing is to at least cut out any serious sin in ones life which regular prayer etc helps assists us in this area and try to be charitable to others where you can as that's basically a quick summary of it. also, you said... "I hardly see anyone from a non-Christian religion be like this" ... ...like i always say, if you want a easy religion don't go Catholic but if you want the Truth, then choose Catholic. it's not always easy to follow but it's the Church tied to Jesus Christ as it's basically the one He started with Peter and then passed down through the generations til today with Pope Francis. personally i prefer the Truth because in a basic sense we have a fallen nature after the fall of Adam/Eve and don't see things clearly (like stuff that's bad can appear appealing to us now) and it will sometimes be hard for us to do what is right. but we need God in our lives as He's our only hope as eventually your going to die here on earth and then you got one of two final destinations which is either heaven or hell. so basically hearing the Truth won't be easy since it forces us out of our comfort zones etc and i am sure we all have areas that we are weak in. while you make a good point, as people need to find ways to better protect kids in those unfortunate situations etc, it still does not change the fact that abortion is wrong, especially in those cases where someone gets it purely because they see the kid as a inconvenience to their lifestyle etc (basically done for no legitimate reason like if the mothers life is in danger would be a legit reason). also, their choice came when they choose to have sex or not and there is always a possibility one can become pregnant when having sex and they need to take responsibility for their actions but many just take the easy way out with abortion because i am willing to bet the vast majority of abortions are for petty reasons which boil down to inconvenience for the parent. hell, even if one wants to look at that abortion issue from a more worldly standpoint... since there is literally millions of people who were never born because of it, it's possible you could have had some people who could have went on to do great things in the world but won't now. p.s. while suffering appears pointless to the world it has a purpose within Christianity. but those who don't believe in God simply won't get this aspect. not saying it makes suffering easy, but can help a bit.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 19, 2017 5:51:18 GMT
Well said spiderwort, and so true. What is most sad and scary, though, is that when the homophobes and bigots such as the ignorant palooka jamesavalon who you are replying to - or the notorious m-slovak79, read an intelligent, factual reply such as yours it does not even give them pause for thought, they just say nothing and simply continue posting their lies and distortions. Do you think this is because they lack the intelligence to understand what you are saying? Or, do you think they lack any form education? Or is is because they have been brainwashed since birth? No, our environments shape who we eventually become. It shapes what we like and what we don't like. It has a much greater impact than our most basic biological drives and homosexuality is proof. Now, if liberals weren't so desperate to maintain the idea we are all born with irresolute sexual preferences from the moment we are conceived, they would realize that this does not mean that people CHOOSE to be gay, which is almost wholly lost on people who are indeed brainwashed into this asinine politically correct position. If this is the case jamesavalon, why do the adopted children of gay males not turn out to be gay (unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Also, why do the children (adopted or otherwise) of lesbian couples not turn out to be gay ((unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Surely if it was a choice the children of gay or lebian couples whould CHOOSE to be gay, if choice is involved. Also, what on earth makes you think I identify as a liberal? or, for that matter, a consevervative? |
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Post by nausea on Mar 19, 2017 6:04:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 10:17:18 GMT
No, our environments shape who we eventually become. It shapes what we like and what we don't like. It has a much greater impact than our most basic biological drives and homosexuality is proof. Now, if liberals weren't so desperate to maintain the idea we are all born with irresolute sexual preferences from the moment we are conceived, they would realize that this does not mean that people CHOOSE to be gay, which is almost wholly lost on people who are indeed brainwashed into this asinine politically correct position. If this is the case jamesavalon, why do the adopted children of gay males not turn out to be gay (unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Also, why do the children (adopted or otherwise) of lesbian couples not turn out to be gay ((unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Surely if it was a choice the children of gay or lebian couples whould CHOOSE to be gay, if choice is involved. Also, what on earth makes you think I identify as a liberal? or, for that matter, a consevervative? Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 10:20:55 GMT
What's sad and scary is that people WANT to believe that people are born with certain exact sexual preferences to the extent they will overlook the very simple and undeniable fact that there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support it. Just because someone claims to have been born gay doesn't mean they were born gay. No person can have that kind of memory of their earliest years...scientifically, there is exactly NO proof that anyone is born homosexual. By that same token, there is no proof that anyone is born heterosexual. How can you have that kind of memory in your earliest years to know that you have to be attracted to the opposite sex? Why is of concern to you anyway, who somebody else likes to f<>k, be it same or opposite gender? Are you a control freak, that wants to tell others what to do and how to live their lives, just because somebody isn't living according to your own self-centered and self-absorbed rules. Are you insecure and fear the homos are going to take over? Of course there is proof people are born heterosexual. It's called procreation. Can two gay men have sex and produce a child? Can two lesbians? Is science really so challenging that we have to question this? I am talking the facts here. No one is born gay. That is a liberal fantasy and one that is substantiated by no facts whatsoever. You put a population of nothing but gay men on an island, totally isolated, and within a century no one would be left. Does that help you? |
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Post by Jillian on Mar 19, 2017 10:26:59 GMT
@ original post. Yes, of course.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 19, 2017 12:38:07 GMT
If this is the case jamesavalon, why do the adopted children of gay males not turn out to be gay (unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Also, why do the children (adopted or otherwise) of lesbian couples not turn out to be gay ((unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Surely if it was a choice the children of gay or lesbian couples would CHOOSE to be gay, if choice is involved. Also, what on earth makes you think I identify as a liberal? or, for that matter, a consevervative? Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? You are talking nonsense james. Also, re-read your reply to me and it will become apparent (perhaps - I realize you are not that bright ) even to you that you lack the ability to comprehend what I was saying. How can you say to me "TO you it MUST be a gay influence" when I am arguing that gay people are born that way. Clearly you are a cretin sir. Back up your argument with links to empirical, proven facts or shut up and f... off back to the trailer park or swamp you crawled out of. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:20:27 GMT
but if you notice... i said i am a sinner like everyone else, which is the truth (i don't get a free pass with God). hence, no 'holier than thou' attitude. i am just simply telling people it's wrong and it's on them whether they want to ignore the truth or not blah, blah, blah... Sounds like a whole lot of rationalization to get around something that's very simple.... |
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Post by vernuf on Mar 19, 2017 19:33:32 GMT
By that same token, there is no proof that anyone is born heterosexual. How can you have that kind of memory in your earliest years to know that you have to be attracted to the opposite sex? Why is of concern to you anyway, who somebody else likes to f<>k, be it same or opposite gender? Are you a control freak, that wants to tell others what to do and how to live their lives, just because somebody isn't living according to your own self-centered and self-absorbed rules. Are you insecure and fear the homos are going to take over? I agree and I take issue with introducing young children to this concept... I don't mean in a fantasy movie/show setting but a reality setting. I work in an elementary school and outside our social worker's office doors are these 'its okay to be gay' posters. I know they are MADE to post them but I just take issue with exposing really young children to this. like Prek students. little 4 year olds who still take naps during the day. they shouldn't know what gay is. if their parents are not comfortable with discussing this, why should the school showcase it? Why not? Gay people exist. They're going to be exposed to their existence and since fewer and fewer gay people are hiding their existence, that does mean it will happen in an uncontrolled environment. If it's such a hard thing, wouldn't it be better to have them learn in a controlled environment? No, the only reason to try to avoid it is bigotry, pure and simple. |
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Post by vernuf on Mar 19, 2017 19:34:35 GMT
If this is the case jamesavalon, why do the adopted children of gay males not turn out to be gay (unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Also, why do the children (adopted or otherwise) of lesbian couples not turn out to be gay ((unless, of course, the adopted child was born gay - then he or she would be gay or lesbian). Surely if it was a choice the children of gay or lebian couples whould CHOOSE to be gay, if choice is involved. Also, what on earth makes you think I identify as a liberal? or, for that matter, a consevervative? Because you are an absolute simpleton. That's why. To you, it MUST be a gay influence or some such experience to turn a person gay. That's liberal 'logic' for ya. And, for the last, I never said it was a choice. Do liberals even know how to read any more? Do you even know how to argue against actual arguments or are straw men the only ones you can argue against? |
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